VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

1. I must have missed this.
2. Well, why didn’t you write further? Did you hide it on purpose to make yourself look like the winner in the discussion? Setraline is essentially a serotonin inhibitor that serves to accumulate dopamine in the brain. Dopamine makes a person stress-resistant, improves their work and improves brain function. That's why some students use it, especially before exams, to better remember information.
3. This sounds ridiculous. It turns out that all people who left their parents' home and live independently were traumatized. MC is also controlled by his mother. This happens in any normal family. Only in shitty families do parents not care about their children.
4. If a girl invites you to her home and shows her tits hinting at sex, you just turn around and leave thinking that she has psychological problems. Did I understand you correctly?
5. If a person is suppressed, they make him a moral invalid who is not capable of anything. If you are sent to a boxing club, and the trainer, instead of teaching you, suppresses you and puts you in sparring with strong boxers from whom you will immediately be knocked out. After this, I somehow doubt that you will become a great boxer, most likely you will bypass this boxing club a block away.
6. MC tried to anger Bella and he succeeded, he can be congratulated on this. Does this make him or Bella mentally ill? I doubt it, any person can be angered.

I read what you wrote and do not understand why you want to connect every insignificant little thing with psychological problems. Maybe you think that Ocean also has mental problems?

For fucks sake man. All that was said by Bob was that non-physical healing was a theme. Nobody is being smug, but it really seems like you are having problems seeing what is written in game and how the characters view things.

For 3 you can't be serious. She was nervous on the bus because her brother was watching her when Nika sat down because she wasn't allowed to have interactions with men. Nika then told her that she would need to make a choice about this for her future. For tabletop game day, the group had to lie to her family and say that Sasha was needed for an all-girl after school women's safety program so that they didn't think that she was interacting with men.
Yes it's culture. Nobody said otherwise. You are broad brushing everything as if people are traumatized from war or something. People have issues that effect them that aren't always physical. That's all.

For 4 forget about tits. They don't matter for this. Hard, I know. Immediately after Nika leaves she has a grim look on her face, starts pacing around, and curls up on the ground whispering "all alone" while dark ominous music plays. She isn't bummed because she didn't get dick. If you can't get that, then there is no helping you. The loneliness and socialization theme fits with other interactions and dialogue with her.

You already missed the first two as you said so if you can't get these why bother with the rest.

 

[SToyS]

She was nervous on the bus because her brother was watching her when Nika sat down because she wasn't allowed to have much interaction with men. Nika then told her that she would need to make a choice about this for her future.

She is a grown-up girl, not a little child, she understands everything herself and without the help of the MC. She just can't decide which path to take in her life.

For 4 forget about tits. They don't matter for this. Hard, I know. Immediately after Nika leaves she has a grim look on her face, starts pacing around, and curls up on the ground whispering "all alone" while dark ominous music plays.

If your girlfriend flirts with you and hints at sex, and you dump her the same way MC dumped Nia, then I assure you your girlfriend's mood will be much darker, and maybe after that she will no longer be your girlfriend.

 

[BobTheDuck]

1. I must have missed this.
2. Well, why didn’t you write further? Did you hide it on purpose to make yourself look like the winner in the discussion? Setraline is essentially a serotonin inhibitor that serves to accumulate dopamine in the brain. Dopamine makes a person stress-resistant, improves their work and improves brain function. That's why some students use it, especially before exams, to better remember information.
3. This sounds ridiculous. It turns out that all people who left their parents' home and live independently were traumatized. MC is also controlled by his mother. This happens in any normal family. Only in shitty families do parents not care about their children.
4. If a girl invites you to her home and shows her tits hinting at sex, you just turn around and leave thinking that she has psychological problems. Did I understand you correctly?
5. If a person is suppressed, they make him a moral invalid who is not capable of anything. If you are sent to a boxing club, and the trainer, instead of teaching you, suppresses you and puts you in sparring with strong boxers from whom you will immediately be knocked out. After this, I somehow doubt that you will become a great boxer, most likely you will bypass this boxing club a block away.
6. MC tried to anger Bella and he succeeded, he can be congratulated on this. Does this make him or Bella mentally ill? I doubt it, any person can be angered.

I read what you wrote and do not understand why you want to connect every insignificant little thing with psychological problems. Maybe you think that Ocean also has mental problems?

I'll add a few words. I don't understand why Marla has problems psychologically. She didn't break the rules, it was Victoria who crossed the road in the wrong place. Therefore, Marla can't blame herself for this incident.

1. Yep.
2. Google whether it helps with brain function in non-depressed people. It's not a stimulant, it's an anti depressant. It can shrink the memory function of the brain.
3. Someone else has already pointed this out, so I won't waste more time.
4. Someone else has already pointed this out, so I won't waste more time.
5. Zara's sister tells you, Bella tells you that Zara's mom did bad things. That's what Ocean's saying. Zara's mom traumatised her into creating false memories of Nick molesting her. Calling someone useless at ayoung age is not great behaviour. Zara's competitive streak is not healthy. There's a scene playing tennis where she loses it and starts crying.

va "Sure... and there is no other reason right? No deep insecurities?"
scene ad780 with vpunch
"Zara gives Vanessa a death stare."
za "Shut the fuck up."

d "Look at you! Crying like a little bitch because it doesn't go your way!"

6.You ignored the rest of what I wrote, that Bella says she's broken. Doesn't get clearer than that. And that her mom hasn't been able to help her in the text messages.

Now here's why it matters. Very first screen of the game.



Don't take my word for it that there's a huge element of psychological healing taking place or that it's not an important theme. Just read the first screen of the game.

 

[Orgitas]

When the MC gets over himself and his demons he'll get his first ever erection and then the game will turn into leisure suit larry.

 

[Penfold Mole]

When the MC gets over himself and his demons he'll get his first ever erection and then the game will turn into leisure suit larry.

You know that the original Larry never got laid, however actively he tried?
But I wouldn't even mind if it did turn into LSL. The game was and still is a hoot.

 

[Scopelophila]

1. I must have missed this.
2. Well, why didn’t you write further? Did you hide it on purpose to make yourself look like the winner in the discussion? Setraline is essentially a serotonin inhibitor that serves to accumulate dopamine in the brain. Dopamine makes a person stress-resistant, improves their work and improves brain function. That's why some students use it, especially before exams, to better remember information.
3. This sounds ridiculous. It turns out that all people who left their parents' home and live independently were traumatized. MC is also controlled by his mother. This happens in any normal family. Only in shitty families do parents not care about their children.
4. If a girl invites you to her home and shows her tits hinting at sex, you just turn around and leave thinking that she has psychological problems. Did I understand you correctly?
5. If a person is suppressed, they make him a moral invalid who is not capable of anything. If you are sent to a boxing club, and the trainer, instead of teaching you, suppresses you and puts you in sparring with strong boxers from whom you will immediately be knocked out. After this, I somehow doubt that you will become a great boxer, most likely you will bypass this boxing club a block away.
6. MC tried to anger Bella and he succeeded, he can be congratulated on this. Does this make him or Bella mentally ill? I doubt it, any person can be angered.

I read what you wrote and do not understand why you want to connect every insignificant little thing with psychological problems. Maybe you think that Ocean also has mental problems?

I'll add a few words. I don't understand why Marla has problems psychologically. She didn't break the rules, it was Victoria who crossed the road in the wrong place. Therefore, Marla can't blame herself for this incident.

No Way you missed the whole Game right ? did you even read and watch everything ? The Game is obviously not made for you. Please Start the game and read what it is about.

 

[DarkOs31]

Wow,i know sertraline is useful,but those side effects are no fun.

 

[DarkOs31]

BobTheDuck wasn't there someone at this site mentioning why sertraline was a bad idea?
I just wanna fact check.

 

[BobTheDuck]

BobTheDuck wasn't there someone at this site mentioning why sertraline was a bad idea?
I just wanna fact check.

The use of sertraline in that scene is badly characterised - it doesn't act that fast, so it's not realistic from what I understand. It's the kind of thing you take and measure your improved mood after weeks, not after 5 min.

 

[yossa999]

The use of sertraline in that scene is badly characterised - it doesn't act that fast, so it's not realistic from what I understand. It's the kind of thing you take and measure your improved mood after weeks, not after 5 min.

Ocean isn't the only one who did a mistake then.
In the Prodigal Son series, episode 12, the character Curtis Marsh takes Zoloft to manage the stress and anxiety he experiences during his interview to FBI when he is questioned about a murder investigation.

 

[Orgitas]

Sertraline can show noticeable improvements after a week and it can take from four to eight weeks for the full benefits to start to show. Not an over night jobby to be sure.

 

[yossa999]

Sertraline can show noticeable improvements after a week and it can take from four to eight weeks for the full benefits to start to show. Not an over night jobby to be sure.

Do you really think a guy who could turn spaghetti into guns after just one visit to the gym can't metabolize drugs faster?

 

[BobTheDuck]

Do you really think a guy who could turn spaghetti into guns after just one visit to the gym can't metabolize drugs faster?

RL hit. Sure

 

[Orgitas]

Do you really think a guy who could turn spaghetti into guns after just one visit to the gym can't metabolize drugs faster?

You gotta give prime time Arnie daily blowies to build up muscle mass that fast.

 

[yossa999]

You gotta give prime time Arnie daily blowies to build up muscle mass that fast.

I doubt it. No protein in the world can do that kind of magic. And MC doesn't have sex anyway.
It's gotta be something else.

 

[RNasc4444]

Regardless, she's going to therapy.

Regarding this discussion, and Marla specifically, I just want to say that it is weird how the emphasis is put on therapy considering she should have other priorities right now. We can't forget she ran over and severely injured someone. The legal and financial implications of this should, in my point of view, take precedent.

Her first concern should be talking to a lawyer instead of a shrink to keep her out of jail. She may have some serious charges coming her way like reckless driving or vehicular assault.

Second should be a financial advisor because you know she will be liable for Vic's injuries and rehabilitation.

Maybe the third could be a shrink. But this is the reason why I take issue with her character. She is portrayed as a victim in need of psychological counseling. We see her crying. We hear her say she has issues. All of this seems designed to paint her as a victim and make us forget she is anything but one. I'm not saying she's a bad person BUT she is, in fact, the assailant in this context.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Regarding this discussion, and Marla specifically, I just want to say that it is weird how the emphasis is put on therapy considering she should have other priorities right now. We can't forget she ran over and severely injured someone. The legal and financial implications of this should, in my point of view, take precedent.

Her first concern should be talking to a lawyer instead of a shrink to keep her out of jail. She may have some serious charges coming her way like reckless driving or vehicular assault.

Second should be a financial advisor because you know she will be liable for Vic's injuries and rehabilitation.

Jabba probably got her off or something... helped her out with a legal defense to minimize damages that is.

Still very much on the hook for fines. The fact that Maja might be struggling with financing Vic's recovery would be messed up. Though she might have inheritance from her parents since they worked in financials.

I'm blanking, but doesn't Stephanie(Marla's first name)come from money? Or was it her Dad was a lawyer or something? I thought I saw her name in WIAB. Don't remember whether it was on Dana's diploma as her advisor or somewhere else.

 

[yossa999]

Regarding this discussion, and Marla specifically, I just want to say that it is weird how the emphasis is put on therapy considering she should have other priorities right now. We can't forget she ran over and severely injured someone. The legal and financial implications of this should, in my point of view, take precedent.

Her first concern should be talking to a lawyer instead of a shrink to keep her out of jail. She may have some serious charges coming her way like reckless driving or vehicular assault.

Second should be a financial advisor because you know she will be liable for Vic's injuries and rehabilitation.

Maybe the third could be a shrink. But this is the reason why I take issue with her character. She is portrayed as a victim in need of psychological counseling. We see her crying. We hear her say she has issues. All of this seems designed to paint her as a victim and make us forget she is anything but one. I'm not saying she's a bad person BUT she is, in fact, the assailant in this context.

Yes, but here again the details are important, which Ocean avoids until he pulls another rabbit out of the hat.

I don't remember if it was explicitly stated that Marla started seeing Amber after the accident. If not, maybe the original reason she sought help was something else, and she started therapy before the accident (the missing gun was a good hint that Marla isn't doing well).

Another important detail is that she and Amber are old friends, and perhaps these visits can only partly be a professional psychological help and partly it's Amber's care about her friend. It is quite natural that Marla asked her friend for help and advice, finding herself in a difficult situation.

We haven't been shown what happens between Marla and Vic yet, but we do know that Marla invited Vic over to talk, and that MC found Marla in tears after that conversation. I think Marla tried to settle the situation out of court, maybe offering Vic compensation, offering to pay her medical bills and all that. And we know Vic is a big softie, even MC admitted that he can't bully such a soft person, so I think she forgave Marla and made her feel even more guilty.

 

[RNasc4444]

Jabba probably got her off or something... helped her out with a legal defense to minimize damages that is.

Still very much on the hook for fines. The fact that Maja might be struggling with financing Vic's recovery would be messed up. Though she might have inheritance from her parents since they worked in financials.

I'm blanking, but doesn't Stephanie(Marla's first name)come from money? Or was it her Dad was a lawyer or something? I thought I saw her name in WIAB. Don't remember whether it was on Dana's diploma as her advisor or somewhere else.

I thought about mentioning this. There is a chance she knows Jabba and could be represented by her.

Yeah like Bob mentioned the dean of the University in WiAB has the Marla last name. Doesn't necessarily mean she comes from money but most likely a respected/influential family in town.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Regarding this discussion, and Marla specifically, I just want to say that it is weird how the emphasis is put on therapy considering she should have other priorities right now. We can't forget she ran over and severely injured someone. The legal and financial implications of this should, in my point of view, take precedent.

Her first concern should be talking to a lawyer instead of a shrink to keep her out of jail. She may have some serious charges coming her way like reckless driving or vehicular assault.

Second should be a financial advisor because you know she will be liable for Vic's injuries and rehabilitation.

Maybe the third could be a shrink. But this is the reason why I take issue with her character. She is portrayed as a victim in need of psychological counseling. We see her crying. We hear her say she has issues. All of this seems designed to paint her as a victim and make us forget she is anything but one. I'm not saying she's a bad person BUT she is, in fact, the assailant in this context.

100% ...and 100% used up my reactions.

The only thing we don't know is if these things are going on outside of Nika's POV. These things could be happening. Dr Stuart Marla (from WiaB) might be her legal advisor. What is further weird is the way she's portrayed as looking for some kind of stallion at this time.

The other thing is to remember that there a two or three week gap (I think) between visiting Vic in hospital and the start of college. Marla seems to have already dealt with an out of court settlement.

d "Just... One question."
d "Why did the police never knock on my door?"
scene sba729 with dssa
ma "...We settled in private. There was no need to involve you."
scene sba730 with dssa

d "I see."

The weirdness then is why Maja's worried about money - surely an out of court settlement would get them something for the loss of Vic's future legs? Something more than just hospital bills or whatever the settlement was?

I guess some holes are just waiting to be filled

Edit: Ha, I see we're all on the same page, and I'm just slower typing.