VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

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yossa999

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d3philer said:
In what regards? Because other than arguably cinematography and renders all of those names wipe the floor with SG.
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Cinematography, renders, music, storytelling, characters development, inter-characters dynamic, emotional involvement. I would have been happy as elephant if you have showed me some titles at least as good as SG, except maybe ten or fifteen well-known hits mentioned in every user's footer here. And I've tried at least a couple of hundends VNs recently - I would rather put something like SG or Connected on repeat.

d3philer said:
The main plot has us going into a dinner to steal a phone of the acquaintance of the man we are trying to frame, without actually knowing that there is anything wrong the man has done to be found And befriending the gf of the son of the man...
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The MC is a moderate asshole, that's for sure. But he is the *character*, we got to know him, the author has painted it very well, his mental issues, his motivation, worries and fears, his relations with the others and its dynamic. We can shape his personality, make a trench-coat-school-shooter of him or a caring brother, son, friend (and lover. maybe. in distant future). He is not just a plastic male model for the next lewd scene. At that's what were my credits for. Regarding his moral principles... Let's say D'artagnan was a bigger piece of asshole in his youth, but the millions of people love "The Three Musketeers" since 1844 and reading it nowdays.

d3philer said:
Because Ocean is such a good artist and does inter-character tension so good, the celling for him as a dev is set high, that most people give him the benefit of the doubt more than to others, because we have high hope he improves all the other aspects of development.
But that good will only lasts so much, he seems stuck in vicious 'perfectionism cycles', over ambitious plans and keeps telling himself, or at least to the audience that he will for sure deliver when he makes it big like all the 'others devs'.
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I would say the most people like what they see in SG, so they let all these flaws slide. And this is because of the Ocean is such a good artist and does inter-character tension so good :) "Perfectionism cycle" has an obvious purpose - make it to the Steam.
 
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arkopand

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Does music seem broken to anyone else? I'm replaying the chapter 1 and it's been awfully quiet for a while.
 
Call of Booty

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HornyyPussy said:
Who has said anything about there not being any sex scenes in the future? Have you even read the OP or played the game?
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Of course I did and many times. Would you start playing it if you knew that in next 3 yrs and more you wouldn't see any sex scenes yet? I wouldn't but I got hooked and waiting and hoping,so here we are.
 
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d3philer said:
In what regards? Because other than arguably cinematography and renders all of those names wipe the floor with SG.

For one, none of those have tumblr fanfic columnist level writing such as edgy anime protag attempts murder, leaves accident without the police even questioning him about the accident he witnessed (or the discharged gun in the attempted murder), goes to school where he meets the person he attempted to murder and she is ok with being in class with her attempted murderer.

The main plot has us going into a dinner to steal a phone of the acquaintance of the man we are trying to frame, without actually knowing that there is anything wrong the man has done to be found And befriending the gf of the son of the man...

To those typing raving reviews about the writing need to stop trying to pretend fist 2/3 of the game are not complete garbagio that even Rian Johnson would be shaken by its quality. Its clear that you never read a book, watched a good movie, or played a good story driven game in your entire lives.

Thats why, when I heard he is reworking the first chapter, I said I hope its a story rework and not just rerenders, because thats what is putting people off from trying the game, not the renders. And you will forever be stuck in a cycle of the newer chapter renders looking better and then have to re-rework earlier chapters again...another reason against re rendering an ongoing game, but I seem to talk to walls, because whiteknights gotta' whiteknight and no matter how you try to prove to them that the grass is green, they will keep saying its blue, because Ocean said is blue, so it has to be true.


"- tHeN wHy ArE yOu hEre jUsT to hAtE? "

Because Ocean is such a good artist and does inter-character tension so good, the celling for him as a dev is set high, that most people give him the benefit of the doubt more than to others, because we have high hope he improves all the other aspects of development.

But that good will only lasts so much, he seems stuck in vicious 'perfectionism cycles', over ambitious plans and keeps telling himself, or at least to the audience that he will for sure deliver when he makes it big like all the 'others devs'. Now idk if he actually believes it, or its people's fault for keep stroking his ego with the notion that the only thing keeping him from competing with the big names is that he makes less money, but that is bullshit.

DPC had less then 400 patreons when he was on the last few chapters of Acting Lessons, he was delivering monthly updates of 800+ renders, early on. It was his consistency and determination in FINISHING THE FUCKING GAME that made people swarm to him to see what he has planned next.

Tell me how many people you see on these forums that say they have been burned by the Patreon business model, but they have no problem paying for a finished product? Want a boom in subs, finish a product...or put all your eggs in the Steam basket, because that has never flopped for anyone, right? :HideThePain:
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After I just played the - in your eyes useless - rework of chapter 1:
That rework is just AWESOME, so much better than the already very good old version. The reworked scenes are way more fitting to the setting, until now the university looked like it burned down and they took over some elementary school that was abandonded a few years back - at least everything except the auditorium.
You even have some (small) new scenes and insights in the story - if you don't click through everything til the next more or less revealed bodypart of some hot chick.

Some examples of the new improved stuff:
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Sure the updates take their time, way more time than most others do. But for me - until now - they were always worth the wait.
 
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For people bemoaning no sex in SG, i suggest Summer Heat to pass time till the next SG update, a nice one relatively new and you guessed it, no sex or kissing or anything, just some holding hands :p
 
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The first thing I did after downloading the new update was check out the transitions and gallery to see what changed, but it was still all the same, le sigh. At least the special effects are there in WIAB. They look great.
 
Duriel

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Just saying I am in love with the Part 1 Remake, the new cinematics and CGs are sooo spot on, some moments sending chills down my spine for how finely crafted they were, also love how the girls look, especially oogling at MIA, gosh I love her new sculpted look :love:

Keep up the marvelous work Oceanlab !!!
 
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HornyyPussy

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Call of Booty said:
Of course I did and many times. Would you start playing it if you knew that in next 3 yrs and more you wouldn't see any sex scenes yet? I wouldn't but I got hooked and waiting and hoping,so here we are.
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Most definitely I would, a VN doesn't need to have sex for me to enjoy it and since this is gonna have sex in time i have no problem waiting, besides, it's not like there aren't any eye candy in the mean time.
 
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So 600 renders without redundant animations in one month is just a proof that he can finish this game or at least season 1 in the near future. But shhh you cannot criticize anyone anymore.
 
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I don´t want to start the game every time from the beginning. Every time i look forward (like christmas) for any update but it the most is just rework. I truly don´t care for steam, i even paid Oceanlab over 100€ for his dev-work and what do i get? Every update i just get more angry
 
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The next update should take a little less time than the current one took because there won't be the tabletop session in it. Hopefully in November.
 
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