Mortarion

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I mean in the reworked, same cast, more less the same story but with more quality and that goes also for the animations and renders
Ocean stated last(?) week, that chapter 2 was the last thing we know from the the old WIAB. From chapter 3 on is all diffrent/new.

No, the patch is unattributed. The author could be anyone... nudge-nudge, wink-wink.
Let's justput the patch aside for a short moment, i have a question from you according this.

Is unrenning the archive.rpa the only way to take a look into the file? Or are there other ways?
If i try notepad++ it don't throw me an error or don't tell me it can't be opened. Notepad just says me that the file is to big to be opened.

Same.. and I like that, to be honest.

Nice to see a mom just being a great mom, for once!!
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Night Hacker

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Naaaah man, I stopped talking to weirdos that see NTR everywhere they look about a week after I signed up here. You can't unfuck their mind and it's just better for my mental wellbeing overall.
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Yup, getting to that point as well. It's more fun to call for more NTR in games. ;) :p

The ONLY women you're going to find that have not had sex with another man is a virgin. Otherwise, prepare to be disappointed playing these games. heheh
 

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Is unrenning the archive.rpa the only way to take a look into the file? Or are there other ways?
If i try notepad++ it don't throw me an error or don't tell me it can't be opened. Notepad just says me that the file is to big to be opened.
An .rpa is basically a Ren'Py .rar (Ren'Py archive I think are the meaning of the letters), so it is a collection of different files. If the files within contain .rpy, then you can open those with notepad/sublime. If they are .rpyc, you have to decompile them first.
 
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As1m

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Are there any other games similar to this that you would recommend(other than wiab)? Gotta keep myself busy until the next update.
 
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yossa999

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empathy is normal thing but do you empathize your own sister to nami if they're related as siblings? Then you have some fucked up brain.
Sorry, but I didn't get what you're implying by this. But what's true is that my brain pretty fucked up now :)
no one's playing incest thinking about their family members dude they just like those 3d character they put themselves in MC's pov not those 3d models in actual people around them
And where exactly did I say that I associate fictional characters from the game with my own relatives? You've read it wrong if you get this impression. I've said that the theme of incest is completely unnecessary for the plot of most VNs. As already mentioned in this thread before, MC and Nami already have a sibling's relationship, and whether they are related by blood or not, it wouldn't make their relationship easier or harder than they are now, but that would make sex between them illegal. Is incest even illegal in the fictional world of SG? And what's the purpose of this in terms of plot?
and the whole nami MC thing revolves around forbidden love anyways.
I completely agree, but since when the theme of forbidden love and the theme of incest are exactly the same thing? Romeo and Juliet weren't relatives if I recall it correctly but all the drama is built upon the forbidden love.
 

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I've said that the theme of incest is completely unnecessary for the plot of most VNs. As already mentioned in this thread before, MC and Nami already have a sibling's relationship, and whether they are related by blood or not, it wouldn't make their relationship easier or harder than they are now, but that would make sex between them illegal.
You seem to think that religious and civil laws are intertwined in the entire world. It is not the case. In my country, France, and in a few others, incest is not illegal. To quote you: “Is incest even illegal in the fictional world of SG?” Why should it be? Because you believe that incest is illegal per se?
 

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You seem to think that religious and civil laws are intertwined in the entire world. It is not the case. In my country, France, and in a few others, incest is not illegal. To quote you: “Is incest even illegal in the fictional world of SG?” Why should it be? Because you believe that incest is illegal per se?
No, I don't think so, I know there are countries where it's legal. I just assumed that's the case for SG world. And if I was wrong, then incest theme means even less to the plot, imho.
 

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Sorry, but I didn't get what you're implying by this. But what's true is that my brain pretty fucked up now :)

And where exactly did I say that I associate fictional characters from the game with my own relatives? You've read it wrong if you get this impression. I've said that the theme of incest is completely unnecessary for the plot of most VNs. As already mentioned in this thread before, MC and Nami already have a sibling's relationship, and whether they are related by blood or not, it wouldn't make their relationship easier or harder than they are now, but that would make sex between them illegal. Is incest even illegal in the fictional world of SG? And what's the purpose of this in terms of plot?

I completely agree, but since when the theme of forbidden love and the theme of incest are exactly the same thing? Romeo and Juliet weren't relatives if I recall it correctly but all the drama is built upon the forbidden love.
Dude still living in medival era
 
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mrmcfappen

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Honestly? To me it does. As someone who has had a hard time getting off to lewd stills or 10 second loop animations since I was a teen I play these games, as silly as it sounds, for the story with the lewd factor added in.

And this is something that has bothered me since I started SG. I get Ocean wants to unveil the story and character backgrounds slowly but I hate ambiguity. My gameplay, the way I choose to act as the MC will vary radically depending on what his connection is to Nami and Nojiko.

At the end of the day it isn't a big deal for now since I can just wait for answers and then re-play the game from the start with the correct perspective. But it is frustrating however, playing an MC riddled with trauma and social issues, not knowing clearly the nature of his relationship with the 2 most important characters of his life.
I don't get it.
As far as MC is concerned, Nani is his sister and Nojiko is his adopted and pretty much the only mother.
While what's even in question regarding his relationship with Nojiko in the first place is unknown to me, whatever new information regarding Nani's blood relation, we the players might learn in the future, won't be something already known to MC beforehand. It would be news to MC as well.
So, I don't really get how a possible future revelation in this subject could help the enjoyment received from the story retroactively, or guide the early choices, if the changes come from future knowledge.

If the situations were that MC already knew something, but we the players didn't and that information revealed, then your post would've made sense.
 

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Is unrenning the archive.rpa the only way to take a look into the file? Or are there other ways?
If i try notepad++ it don't throw me an error or don't tell me it can't be opened. Notepad just says me that the file is to big to be opened.
You can't look at an RPA container with a text editor, because as deuxrayme explained it's an archive of many files. Which is why the SG archive.rpa is >5GB, it contains all the images, videos etc. too.

So yes you need a tool to unpack the RPA so you can get to the files inside. I find UnRen (fork) the simplest solution. There are other tools, but generally they're either harder to use, or aren't maintained so may not work on recent games.

Once you unpack the RPA, the script files will be RPY and/or RPYC files. The RPYC files are compiled versions of the RPY scripts, so you won't be able to examine RPYC files with a text editor either. You need to decompile the RPYC files into RPY files to view their contents (UnRen can do this).

If you're unpacking a game, don't do it in your main game folder as that can lead to problems. Extract the game to a different folder, and unpack it there.

The site OctavianusAugustus linked to might be an option, the only obvious downside is you need to upload the RPA file to it (5+ GB for SG). Though if you've got fast enough internet that might not be a problem.
 
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Uriel ☁

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The site @OctavianusAugustus linked to might be an option, the only obvious downside is you need to upload the RPA file to it (5+ GB for SG). Though if you've got fast enough internet that might not be a problem.
Nah, it works locally. It's basically a web viewer of the archive, the scripts are executed on your browser and it uses the browser to show you the archive content. It's even faster then UnRen (since it extracts virtually only the file you selected). Nothing is uploaded to the site itself, it would be very noticeable if a 5GB file was uploaded since my upload speed sucks.

That's why I said it works surprisingly well.
 
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Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean my post doesn't make sense. No worries though I will dumb it down for you. Right now there are 2 versions of the game. The patched and unpatched. In one of them Nami and MC aren't related at all and in the other they are, although we lack confirmation as to what the extent of it is. Are they step siblings? Half siblings? We just don't know for sure.

Do you get the point now? There have been nothing but conflicting reports from patrons and non patrons and from version to version of the game since the start. If you follow the thread you will realize that. I'm not asking for much. Just a clear answer as to what MC's relation is to Nami in this point of the story with all we know so far, assuming in all versions Nojiko is the adoptive mother. There has been no indication that the patch is officially or even meant to circumvent Patreon rules, in fact there have been users pointing otherwise.

I'll just point this one out for you as well as I can't be sure you aren't too dense to realize it but MC looks to be of middle eastern descent, Nojiko is asian and Nami is a fucking ginger. So unless this game's alternate title is "DNA is a lie" something weird is going on.
MC looks what? He's more white than a flashbang. Yeah, middle eastern can be whites 'cause white people is not just caucasian descendant, but I don't know how do you can be so specific about the MC, and he can be perfectly Nami's sibling, 'cause redhead is (usually) a recessive gen, and you can have black haired parents and siblings and have red hair 'cause you grandgrandfather was redhead. Common? No. Impossible? Hell no.

And sincerely, is irrelevant if Nami and MC have a blood relationship or not, they are brother and sister, they grown together and have a special relationship built it from the fact that they are siblings, that's why Nami is so conflicted and why Nojiko is scared as fuck about their relationship. The patch doesn't change nothing in that situation, the problem is the same and the solution is the same. For me is more stupid the Victoria-Maja sibling-no sibling situation, for fuck sakes, all the drama and problem around Maja doesn't have sense if Maja is not his sister, but patreon rules are stupid so... whatever, just friends.
 
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Eh, I dunno if this has been discussed, but was summer ORIGINALLY (as in NOT ANYMORE) supposed to be MC's and Nami's sister?
We already know that in WIAB, MC, Leia and Katie are actually siblings (And Helen is their mum, buuuut they're now our Helen and some friends because Patreon rules).

Now, it's more than obvious that Nami is MC's sister (C'mon, 'we both lost our parents at the same time in the same way and we got adopted by the same lady, but we aren't siblings'?)
But yeah, I was wondering cause I can see some paralels with WIAB:

- In WIAB, Willi and Leia are twins and Katie is the youngest sibling. In SG, MC and Summer could be the twins (Willi and Leia don't have the same eye colour either), but Nami just happens to be the oldest there.
- In WIAB Katie always felt left out by Willi and Leia, and she always harbored feelings for him. In SG, Nami became jealous of MC and Summer's closeness, and she always had feelings for MC.
- The skin of MC, Summer and Nami: As far as I know, they're the only models in the game who have a collection of moles sprinkled all over their faces. While this might be just a coincidence, I found it interesting.

So yeah, I dunno mann. Aaanyway, this is what happens when I have too much time in my hands.
If you only knew what kind of shitstorm you started,my dear friend
 
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