VN Ren'Py Abandoned Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[yossa999]

make porn game then decide to censor it and pay for a rating so you can sell it as non adult content.....im not sure if this is some 5d chess or if he's retarded. just fucking complete your porn game or make a new game thats not for adults, pick one holy fuck how hard can this be to figure out?

i highly doubt the amount of people who would buy this if only the age rating was lower is a significant amount and worth the effort put in

Yeah, it's a total failure. No one buys the game on Steam, and even fewer would if it was available in his country.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

It's Ocean's third favorite thing, after BBLs and plastic surgery.

This is a lie, nipple piercings are clearly in first place

 

[Icekatana]

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With respect, that's bullshit! Sasha should be wearing a shirt that says she wishes she were Ayua!

Haha, nice stuff though.

 

[BobTheDuck]

With respect, that's bullshit! Sasha should be wearing a shirt that says she wishes she were Ayua!

Haha, nice stuff though.

Ayua seems to have lost a bet with Sasha, but given

ay "I am still waiting for you to beat me once."

I wonder what the wager was over? Or is Sasha punishing Ayua for not dying her hair like she said?

sas "That doesn't count."
scene ab698 with dssa
ay "Whyyyy not?!"
scene ab699 with dssa
sas "It's not even partially white."
ay "But-"
scene ab700 with dssa
sas "I did let you off by agreeing to half-white."
sas "Last chance."

Strange antics ahead I guess

 

[yossa999]

With respect, that's bullshit! Sasha should be wearing a shirt that says she wishes she were Ayua!

Haha, nice stuff though.

A lost bet. Last time she had to dye her hairs white.

EDIT: Bob was faster

 

[BobTheDuck]

A lost bet. Last time she had to dye her hairs white.

EDIT: Bob was faster

...for once

I do wonder if drunk Ayua makes bets. Seems like she promises a lot while drunk.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Seems like she promises a lot while drunk.

 

[Turret]

Well, is it possible that there are so few AVN's sold in Germany that he might make 2000€ off season 1? That would be worth it, and then he knows the process.

If USK 18 ratings allow an AVN with 'Sexuelle Inhalte' (where the main point of the game is sex) to be published, why wouldn't he do it? From what I can tell, it seems like no devs have gone to the expense. But if it's rated, potentially saves him trouble down the line anyway. Seems to me it's unexplored territory, no other dev seems to have risked submitting their game to the ratings panel, so who knows?

It does add a bit of a safeguard as well. An offical German govt body has approved his AVN, that's got to look good on paper.

Hi Bob!

Sorry for singling you out this time, this post applies to more members than you, but it just got my attention, so I took it.
Ocean has finally come to his senses and gets an USK rating, as I mentioned several times before, he should have done that before the release rating debacle of SG on Steam. So, hoy Yeah for this late, but not completely too late, step!

Also I think he still does not look at the USK rating like he should. Yes, it is not cheap, 1800 € is a sum (besides why 1800? An USK rating for this kind of program costs 1500, maybe he took the option for quick rating DLCs with it?), but it does not only help with Steam, but GoG and Epic also! These two might not nag about ratings as much as Steam, as the market leader, does, but they too really like officially rated games (not only from Germany, but other nations as well).
Easier all around for them, safer on the law side of things, for the Devs too and the companies usually treat those with official ratings better and approve stuff faster and with less hassle than if they themselves must rate them.
That is a net win for the devs too, SG for example could have been sold on German Steam for months now. As an important software market, Ocean would have regained most or even all costs of the USK rating by now.

As for the "unexplored territory", that is not true. As I mentioned before, another indie developer got an USK rating of 16 for his EA game. While it is not the main part of the game, it has Strippers, doing what Strippers typically do and more, in it. It got released on Steam without fuss. Also other small developers get USK ratings, like Egosoft, who is more or less a company of a few old friends, makers of the X-Series and the current "X4 Foundation".

If Ocean now got the USK 18 as he said, then we can at least sincerely hope he took the ungimped version to the board, because the current fluffy-washed Steam version would have gotten a 12, 16 if the rating board had a bad day and disliked him.
If Ocean got a normal 18, then it should have been for the less soft one taken to the USK, esp. in light of the coming seasons. I theorise that USK 18 is in light of the coming seasons and Ocean gave them estimates for those seasons to rate, since it influences the total rating.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Hi Bob!

Sorry for singling you out this time, this post applies to more members than you, but it just got my attention, so I took it.
Ocean has finally come to his senses and gets an USK rating, as I mentioned several times before, he should have done that before the release rating debacle of SG on Steam. So, hoy Yeah for this late, but not completely too late, step!

Also I think he still does not look at the USK rating like he should. Yes, it is not cheap, 1800 € is a sum (besides why 1800? An USK rating for this kind of program costs 1500, maybe he took the option for quick rating DLCs with it?), but it does not only help with Steam, but GoG and Epic also! These two might not nag about ratings as much as Steam, as the market leader, does, but they too really like officially rated games (not only from Germany, but other nations as well).
Easier all around for them, safer on the law side of things, for the Devs too and the companies usually treat those with official ratings better and approve stuff faster and with less hassle than if they themselves must rate them.
That is a net win for the devs too, SG for example could have been sold on German Steam for months now. As an important software market, Ocean would have regained most or even all costs of the USK rating by now.

As for the "unexplored territory", that is not true. As I mentioned before, another indie developer got an USK rating of 16 for his EA game. While it is not the main part of the game, it has Strippers, doing what Strippers typically do and more, in it. It got released on Steam without fuss. Also other small developers get USK ratings, like Egosoft, who is more or less a company of a few old friends, makers of the X-Series and the current "X4 Foundation".

If Ocean now got the USK 18 as he said, then we can at least sincerely hope he took the ungimped version to the board, because the current fluffy-washed Steam version would have gotten a 12, 16 if the rating board had a bad day and disliked him.
If Ocean got a normal 18, then it should have been for the less soft one taken to the USK, esp. in light of the coming seasons. I theorise that USK 18 is in light of the coming seasons and Ocean gave them estimates for those seasons to rate, since it influences the total rating.

Oh no problem, I don't feel singled out

This is very much my thought also, when I saw that 18+ games are availble in Steam's German storefront - if advertised and listed the right way. I'm not saying no one has ever done it, but it seems strange that very few renpy games have tried. I suspect they don't want to submit their games to government scrutiny, even if a small department.

Given the ways things have been described about payment issues, it might be late, but it does lay groundwork for Season 2. I think knowing how he can release Season 2, WiaB and all the other seasons of both will help a lot. Well, at least until the next roadblock

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Just discovered I'm out of reactions. Bar opening w3n???

 

[LHDLLB]

Ayua seems to have lost a bet with Sasha, but given



I wonder what the wager was over? Or is Sasha punishing Ayua for not dying her hair like she said?



Strange antics ahead I guess

Curious, my mind had gone to a very different place. Sasha is too much of a discreate person to bet something like that, my feeling is that she would not be much confort and that Auya is taken a piss out of Sasha by wearing the shirt.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Curious, my mind had gone to a very different place. Sasha is too much of a discreate person to bet something like that, my feeling is that she would not be much confort and that Auya is taken a piss out of Sasha by wearing the shirt.

Well, she's not so serious if she's forcing Ayua to dye her hair over something. I guess we'll find out the side of herself that she represses, like that cute smile she shared with NIka. I don't think she'll be completely austere or an icemaiden. My opinion is that she lives to someone else's expectations currently.

And Ayua teasing her and forcing her to go to the bar opening (when it happens) makes me feel that the Z's and P's grew up together, and have quite a different relationship to how a stranger (like Nika) would be treated by Sasha.

 

[LHDLLB]

Well, she's not so serious if she's forcing Ayua to dye her hair over something. I guess we'll find out the side of herself that she represses, like that cute smile she shared with NIka. I don't think she'll be completely austere or an icemaiden. My opinion is that she lives to someone else's expectations currently.

And Ayua teasing her and forcing her to go to the bar opening (when it happens) makes me feel that the Z's and P's grew up together, and have quite a different relationship to how a stranger (like Nika) would be treated by Sasha.

Oh for sure, I am not saying that she is only serious but at first dosen't fits how I see her character but I could always be wrong. Feels to me too public for a bet she would do. For the rest I agree.

 

[Turret]

Oh no problem, I don't feel singled out

This is very much my thought also, when I saw that 18+ games are availble in Steam's German storefront - if advertised and listed the right way. I'm not saying no one has ever done it, but it seems strange that very few renpy games have tried. I suspect they don't want to submit their games to government scrutiny, even if a small department.

Yes, the age rating with Steam is not really such a problem if you have an official rating with you. Keep an eye on how your shop page looks like e.g. no blatant hudity or sawing a guy in two in cinemascope in the tralier and you are golden.

The bigger things is that many small/one person devs fear the costs and that they are known by an official agency.

 

[BobTheDuck]

and that they are known by an official agency.

I think that's the reason we don't see people submitting their games for ratings this way - Ocean is in Germany, but why would a dev from the US care to file German paperwork and be on record in a foreign country?

At very least, it is a step forward, a costly one, but much less costly than the music licenses that went nowhere. So I personally think this is a good thing.

 

[Turret]

I think that's the reason we don't see people submitting their games for ratings this way - Ocean is in Germany, but why would a dev from the US care to file German paperwork and be on record in a foreign country?

At very least, it is a step forward, a costly one, but much less costly than the music licenses that went nowhere. So I personally think this is a good thing.

Reach? Germany is a major software/Games market. Still, see clearly what you mean, even if the USK agency is less of a hassle than what Ocean tries to depict. Especially since it helps even outside of Germany having an officially approved age rating.
The music licences in comparison were a bigger fuckup. Costly in both money and time, convoluted for a very minor effect. What money he burned pursuing the licenses could have easily paid the more important USK rating.
An AVN is not a musical or opera, so music helps but is still a minor part. Just as an example, "Pale Carnations" has quite fitting music, some pieces are even really good, but all open, free access.
Instead of wasting months and cash in an unsuccessful prusuit of some music pieces, Ocean could have gotten and paid the USK rating for the Steam start anywhere. And without censoring the game to Disney´s Sagrotan-level cleanliness.

 

[Rune H]

we do not need music

 

[jadepaladin]

we do not need music

Okay.

 

[BadassDolphin]

we do not need music

Yes we do.

 

[codex35]

we do not need music

We need Lvly's music

 

[Rune H]

ok we need music