Dr.TSoni

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I would bet that Nika, like William, was a child of a family that was eliminated, perhaps even the Zayns, and Nika was simply distanced from the mafia world so as not to kill or, when the time comes, to marry her off)) that would be in the spirit of drama.
But this will open the same problem as WiaB, why is only Nika's relationship with Nami a taboo?
 

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Thanks for the help. I'll play it without the Patch, even though I believe some of the dialogue doesn't make since the way it is said. For instance, as I pointed out earlier, the line "we're not a couple. We're roomies!" doesn't really make since. Now. Had Ocean worded it like "We're just roomies" or "We just live together" might have made more since. One word can make all the difference.
 
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That would be Victoria. I hope she recovers, otherwise...

At Vic's.

Nika : (puts Victoria in the hot tub)

NAMI : Nika! Vegetable soup is ready.

Nika : (laughs) Okay, that was funny.

NAMI : I meant the breakfast idiot!
Ya know, Vic would've had an epileptic fit if she heard Nami say this. Nami, without batting an eyelid, would then exclaim, "Quick, everybody! Throw in your washing!"
 

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Thanks for the help. I'll play it without the Patch, even though I believe some of the dialogue doesn't make since the way it is said. For instance, as I pointed out earlier, the line "we're not a couple. We're roomies!" doesn't really make since. Now. Had Ocean worded it like "We're just roomies" or "We just live together" might have made more since. One word can make all the difference.
The whole S1 suffers from a mid way rework. If you look close enough you can see the stiches. Things don't fit as close together as they should. Ocean wrote 2 chapthers an then the game suffered a shift, and things were being changed while also being made. The time between each update also was grand, meaning that while Ch 4 was made when Patreon had a approach aboout their TOS Ch5 was made when their approach had changed quite a bit. The result is less than great. It becomes even more glaring when you had played previous version but is still there if you look close enough. I hope that is something that he adress in the next update, being it something like 3 chapthers in one, as it hurt badly the story.
 

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Hopefully the relationship with Nami still retains that 'taboo' feeling. Otherwise the great part at romance near the end of the season, impossible race decision makes no sense.
It would make kind of sense to me as she is like a sister to him. Even if they are not related, they grew up in the same house. Felt more like siblings or even cousins than just two people who share a residence for college or something.
 

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It would make kind of sense to me as she is like a sister to him. Even if they are not related, they grew up in the same house. Felt more like siblings or even cousins than just two people who share a residence for college or something.
I might be biased, but the way the issue is presented it seems to be caused by something external to the two of them.
 

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You know it's not a problem, you just won't like the answer :Kappa:
Is just a problem if Ocean can't make the story work, and as it is now, WiaB story dosen't work very well. That said it is a work in progress só there is the possibility of the story working out. As was already pointed out much of Nika and Nami relationship dosen't make sense with out the taboo aspect of it and I ain't sure that mafia reasons works here.


It would make kind of sense to me as she is like a sister to him. Even if they are not related, they grew up in the same house. Felt more like siblings or even cousins than just two people who share a residence for college or something.
I fear that this still would hurt TOS
 

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Is just a problem if Ocean can't make the story work, and as it is now, WiaB story dosen't work very well. That said it is a work in progress só there is the possibility of the story working out. As was already pointed out much of Nika and Nami relationship dosen't make sense with out the taboo aspect of it and I ain't sure that mafia reasons works here.




I fear that this still would hurt TOS
Well, that's another post to put in the 'you might not like the answer' bucket :HideThePain:

Quit simply, it will work better in SG than in WiaB. Same context. Notice something though - Nami COULD be a Zane. Nothing stops her from being one, we just know we haven't seen Nika's parents in WiaB, I don't think Ocean said anything about Nami's parents. That could make the earring make a bunch more sense. Nami aslo doesn't know why she has the earring, so if there's any kind of WiaB reason to the earring, she's completely cluesless about it.
 

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Well, that's another post to put in the 'you might not like the answer' bucket :HideThePain:

Quit simply, it will work better in SG than in WiaB. Same context. Notice something though - Nami COULD be a Zane. Nothing stops her from being one, we just know we haven't seen Nika's parents in WiaB, I don't think Ocean said anything about Nami's parents. That could make the earring make a bunch more sense. Nami aslo doesn't know why she has the earring, so if there's any kind of WiaB reason to the earring, she's completely cluesless about it.
Did not quite get the first part


I mean the earring itself lends itself to the idea that the Zanes are involved with Nami and Nika in some manner, so I don't see no new information aside Ocean comment that one can take however they want. My point about it making less sense here is that as said by Ocean, this is a healing story, WiaB is the dark, criminal storyt, always has been, SG is the more ligthhearted one, so things migth not work as well.
 

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Did not quite get the first part


I mean the earring itself lends itself to the idea that the Zanes are involved with Nami and Nika in some manner, so I don't see no new information aside Ocean comment that one can take however they want. My point about it making less sense here is that as said by Ocean, this is a healing story, WiaB is the dark, criminal storyt, always has been, SG is the more ligthhearted one, so things migth not work as well.
First part was just my humour over the likelihood of the mafia rework penetrating SG with the surgical precision of a stiletto.

Secondly, there's nothing now that says Nami can't be related to the Zanes. We know that Nika isn't related to anyone we've seen in WiaB, but the same's not been said for Nami. So I'm pointing out that Katie's reasons for being at the bookclub and her interest in Nika and Nami might be for different reasons for each of them. Nami has the earring, which Sasha, Ayua and Vanessa recognise. So Katie's interest in Nami might be for very different reasons.

It is a healing story yes, but it also has trauma to be healed from. It's not a rom-com, and it's not going to be an action spectacular. BUt it does have violence as one of the warnings on the steam page. So it's not necessarily going to avoid things. But it's most likely going to be a background element. Nika already has his own violent tendencies and will get into trouble with the street racers most likely, and probably still with Sai at some point again.

Noji could have made the decision (whatever it was) to pull NIka and Nami out of that life, doesn't mean the game will avoid all mention. We have Emilio being a blackmarket fence still after all.
 

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I might be biased, but the way the issue is presented it seems to be caused by something external to the two of them.
Yes ...... la landlady problemo :Kappa:
Is just a problem if Ocean can't make the story work, and as it is now, WiaB story dosen't work very well. That said it is a work in progress só there is the possibility of the story working out. As was already pointed out much of Nika and Nami relationship dosen't make sense with out the taboo aspect of it and I ain't sure that mafia reasons works here.
Just enjoy the renders. :whistle:
 
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First part was just my humour over the likelihood of the mafia rework penetrating SG with the surgical precision of a stiletto.

Secondly, there's nothing now that says Nami can't be related to the Zanes. We know that Nika isn't related to anyone we've seen in WiaB, but the same's not been said for Nami. So I'm pointing out that Katie's reasons for being at the bookclub and her interest in Nika and Nami might be for different reasons for each of them. Nami has the earring, which Sasha, Ayua and Vanessa recognise. So Katie's interest in Nami might be for very different reasons.

It is a healing story yes, but it also has trauma to be healed from. It's not a rom-com, and it's not going to be an action spectacular. BUt it does have violence as one of the warnings on the steam page. So it's not necessarily going to avoid things. But it's most likely going to be a background element. Nika already has his own violent tendencies and will get into trouble with the street racers most likely, and probably still with Sai at some point again.

Noji could have made the decision (whatever it was) to pull NIka and Nami out of that life, doesn't mean the game will avoid all mention. We have Emilio being a blackmarket fence still after all.
Well, I hope só.

Yeah, I get that but this was always a possibility, the more likely, the problem never was Nami being a Zane was both of them being. So is really no new information beside that we always knew that Nika could not really be one.

Yeah, but I just look at the amount of plot threads Ocean has to work and too add all od the Mafia rules when not in WiaB it is perfect... makes me worry
 
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