VN Ren'Py Abandoned Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Massagecook01]

The lack of adult scenes won’t affect the game at all. He simply doesn’t need to make them—just like in the past six-plus years of development—while keeping fans under the false impression that they might eventually happen. In reality, since development started in 2019, exactly zero adult scenes have been produced, and it’s safe to say that won’t change, as long as the game keeps serving him, bringing in steady income without requiring those scenes, that’s exactly how it will stay. A couple of preview images between the usual bi-weekly “life is terrible” posts are enough to keep most people calm and content,offering nothing but praise and having zero expectations toward a developer who has already broken every promise he made previously (no rewrites, 3–5 month dev time, etc.) , while he continues working on his “perfect” game at his own pace.
So why are people scared of a possible change when there was never anything like that to begin with? You will play the same game nothing changes as it was intended.

Do you really think a dev who talks about money every two weeks is going to change direction toward the fans, if that means losing money?

Do you think Ocean will shoot himself in the foot from a winning formula ? By giving preview pictures every 2 weeks and tell us how much money he has spent on stuff and not deliver any content. Even the Developers that have the worst reputation are putting out content multible times a year i can give names if nobody believes me, but Ocean who has one of the most loyal fan bases and one of the best reputations is not putting out shit and has not for 1 year 10 months and this is not different from other years it's been a constent trend for him.

But if you are a developer and you have for years give very little and still get a lot why change ? It would make no sense when for years you have said yourself that something is coming and your fans get hyped and then deliver nothing ,But you don't lose fans you don't lose support then you don't see no reason to change your ways so you keep the same pace and same attitude and same work ethic. If people don't hold these Developers accountiable for their actions then nothing will ever change ,it will keep getting worse from new and old developers. I have seen after a developer gets a little bit of success they change from giving updates often to not so often, it's just from what i have seen with many new developers and even older ones they started off very active on development then all of a sudden updates come out few far and in between.

 

[alanrock]

The lack of adult scenes won’t affect the game at all. He simply doesn’t need to make them—just like in the past six-plus years of development—while keeping fans under the false impression that they might eventually happen. In reality, since development started in 2019, exactly zero adult scenes have been produced, and it’s safe to say that won’t change, as long as the game keeps serving him, bringing in steady income without requiring those scenes, that’s exactly how it will stay. A couple of preview images between the usual bi-weekly “life is terrible” posts are enough to keep most people calm and content,offering nothing but praise and having zero expectations toward a developer who has already broken every promise he made previously (no rewrites, 3–5 month dev time, etc.) , while he continues working on his “perfect” game at his own pace.
So why are people scared of a possible change when there was never anything like that to begin with? You will play the same game nothing changes as it was intended.

Do you really think a dev who talks about money every two weeks is going to change direction toward the fans, if that means losing money?

Adult scenes, when they occur, won't increase Summer's Gone popularity. There won't be a sudden rush of patrons, will there? Enjoy the game for what it is (or don't), until it reaches an abrupt conclusion.

 

[SToyS]

The lack of adult scenes won’t affect the game at all. He simply doesn’t need to make them—just like in the past six-plus years of development—while keeping fans under the false impression that they might eventually happen. In reality, since development started in 2019, exactly zero adult scenes have been produced, and it’s safe to say that won’t change, as long as the game keeps serving him, bringing in steady income without requiring those scenes, that’s exactly how it will stay. A couple of preview images between the usual bi-weekly “life is terrible” posts are enough to keep most people calm and content,offering nothing but praise and having zero expectations toward a developer who has already broken every promise he made previously (no rewrites, 3–5 month dev time, etc.) , while he continues working on his “perfect” game at his own pace.
So why are people scared of a possible change when there was never anything like that to begin with? You will play the same game nothing changes as it was intended.

Do you really think a dev who talks about money every two weeks is going to change direction toward the fans, if that means losing money?

You are mistaken, the lack of sex scenes has already affected the game, because of this, subscribers are leaving Ocean. If initially SG was in section VN, then you would be right and no one would shout about sex. But this is AVN Game and people have the right to demand a scene of sex. Moreover, many of the departed subscribers want to return if the game changes, some have not gone but are also waiting for changes. I am one of them. Well, if the game does not improve, then people will leave and without money the ocean will abandon the game in a year or 2.

 

[LHDLLB]

Adult scenes, when they occur, won't increase Summer's Gone popularity. There won't be a sudden rush of patrons, will there? Enjoy the game for what it is (or don't), until it reaches an abrupt conclusion.

I mean the game is succeful as it is and I would not rush a scene when the story is not ready for one but lewd scenes will absolutly increase the popularity and paying Patreons, the moment that Nika clap some cheeks and Miru is railed by a monster cock the money will follow

 

[Zolkane]

cant wait for seaosn 2.
i dont even care for sex or not.
story is EPIC

 

[Massagecook01]

I'm going to say this and i'll drop the subject, when the update drops the question i have is it everything you wanted for Summer's Gone or is it everything you never wanted for Summer's Gone. And if it is amazing i'll be the first to say i was wrong but if it is not amazing but a flop then maybe people will acknowledge i was write all along. What i can say this coming update will make or break Ocean believe it or not.

 

[Joan6969]

I'm going to say this and i'll drop the subject, when the update drops the question i have is it everything you wanted for Summer's Gone or is it everything you never wanted for Summer's Gone. And if it is amazing i'll be the first to say i was wrong but if it is not amazing but a flop then maybe people will acknowledge i was write all along. What i can say this coming update will make or break Ocean believe it or not.

1st season......

I have NP with the game story wise and I think he does a great job
with all the characters in the game. There are few little things like
the MC working out twice and it looks like he's been at it for months lol!?{just to name 1}
Best renders out there and the music was good{could use more and that's gonna happen}
Now as far as the new update{maybe December? lol!}Well we just have to wait and see.

But for those who are looking lewd stuff in this....don't expect a lot.
Can't really say if it will make or break him but I don't see that happening
since he's been at this since 2019?..... But who knows.....just my humble opinion.
Oh and for a game that has yet to have any lewd stuff.....people sure seem to comment
a lot on this game.....that's always good sign and shows many are interested in it.
Remember....most of the complaints about this game has always been the development time.

 

[Massagecook01]

1st season......

I have NP with the game story wise and I think he does a great job
with all the characters in the game. There are few little things like
the MC working out twice and it looks like he's been at it for months lol!?{just to name 1}
Best renders out there and the music was good{could use more and that's gonna happen}
Now as far as the new update{maybe December? lol!}Well we just have to wait and see.

But for those who are looking lewd stuff in this....don't expect a lot.
Can't really say if it will make or break him but I don't see that happening
since he's been at this since 2019?..... But who knows.....just my humble opinion.
Oh and for a game that has yet to have any lewd stuff.....people sure seem to comment
a lot on this game.....that's always good sign and shows many are interested in it.
Remember....most of the complaints about this game has always been the development time.

I mean 1 year or more is kinda asking a lot from your supporters and what do they have in the mean time to keep them occupied ? I know what you will say play others AVNs or Steam games, Ok but why sould they keep supporting you if you are taking your sweet ass time to put out a single update, they can support another Developer that does not take a year or more, And keep dragging the update along.

I'm sure that it has something to do that Ocean knows fans aint going a damn place so why sould he rush out the update? it's not like he will lose patreons right. I myself want to play the new update to see if he keeps his word or not , And if it's shit and the story does not progress a lot, like Mila and Nika's date, like Victoria walking again and or her date with Nika and Bella and Nika's relationship going futher and finally Nami and Nika's relationship progressing and I hope you seen that I did not mention anything lewd or sex like fuckers think i care about.

But if none of that relationship stuff is not in the update or even a little bit of that then ,I will say goodbye to Ocean and never give him a penny even on Steam let alone Patreon and I will spead the word that he is a damn liar.

 

[SToyS]

Oh, but why limit ourselves with a single example about how the count of paying members on Patreon fluctuates?

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Have you considered that maybe this kind of pattern might be more universal? Maybe just take a look at the member count during the past 5 years for each of them? What those weird peaks there are supposed to be, I wonder?
Could it be just a coincidence that they seem to match with the months when each update was published?

The number of supporters just seems to grow rapidly each time after an update and starts to decline right after. And it just keeps repeating each time.

So maybe Ocean's creation just entered a similar phase after the last update and is now just following a similar pattern?

Which is more likely, I wonder?
Did the number of supporters start to decline because of the lack of sex as you claim?
Or maybe, just maybe it's just a common pattern for all Patreon supported indie games?

Could you maybe answer to your own 3 questions about each example?

I've already shared the top three most discussed topics on Patreon for which Ocean's is most hated. At least, that's how it was when I was still a Patreon member.

The biggest complaints from Patreon subscribers are the censorship and the lack of sex scenes in the game. Maybe I'm wrong, and people are leaving for other reasons, for example: they're leaving because Ocean is a milker, no one knows the exact data. But when newcomers come to Patreon, the most common complaint they hear is the lack of sex scenes—that's a fact.

 

[Joan6969]

I mean 1 year or more is kinda asking a lot from your supporters and what do they have in the mean time to keep them occupied ? I know what you will say play others AVNs or Steam games, Ok but why sould they keep supporting you if you are taking your sweet ass time to put out a single update, they can support another Developer that does not take a year or more, And keep dragging the update along.

I'm sure that it has something to do that Ocean knows fans aint going a damn place so why sould he rush out the update? it's not like he will lose patreons right. I myself want to play the new update to see if he keeps his word or not , And if it's shit and the story does not progress a lot, like Mila and Nika's date, like Victoria walking again and or her date with Nika and Bella and Nika's relationship going futher and finally Nami and Nika's relationship progressing and I hope you seen that I did not mention anything lewd or sex like fuckers think i care about.

But if none of that relationship stuff is not in the update or even a little bit of that then ,I will say goodbye to Ocean and never give him a penny even on Steam let alone Patreon and I will spead the word that he is a damn liar.

Oh I agree about the development time as that's always been an issue.
But again there are other games even more popular than this that sadly has
taken a year or more for a game update. Just have to bite the bullet
since there's really nothing we can do about it. Someone....actually
a few people talked about boycotting the game. On a site where
you get to play it for free.

 

[BCGuy]

From reading the latest comments, it seems that people still expect an update to drop even though the last one was over a year ago. Are we sure something new is coming soon? Or is it just hope?

 

[Joan6969]

From reading the latest comments, it seems that people still expect an update to drop even though the last one was over a year ago. Are we sure something new is coming soon? Or is it just hope?

Just read the Dev logs here that will tell you what's up.{use that search thingy that people tend to forget about}
But yes there is an update coming......join the rest of us
in the pool date.....you might get lucky!

 

[FREAKY ALEX]

OCEANLAB ONLY GONNA RELEASE STEAM VERSONS EVERY YEAR

 

[SweatyDevil]

From reading the latest comments, it seems that people still expect an update to drop even though the last one was over a year ago. Are we sure something new is coming soon? Or is it just hope?

Well, Ocean said he is aiming for december. So give or take "Ocean's timing", we might get it by spring.

 

[El_Magnifico]

Well, Ocean said he is aiming for december. So give or take "Ocean's timing", we might get it by spring.

Summer's Gone and Winter is coming

 

[SweatyDevil]

Summer's Gone and Winter is coming

Don't worry, before Ocean will manage to release his precious baby, it will be Winter's Gone...

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Don't worry, before Ocean will manage to release his precious baby, it will be Winter's Gone...

I'll butt in for a moment.
For those less familiar with the topic, when it comes to Ocean's, the seasons are those of Westeros.

 

[RNasc4444]

Summer's Gone and Winter is coming

"Summer's Gone" is only 1 of 4 books. We're still missing "Autumn's Here", "Winter's Cumming" and "Spring has Sprung".

*CUMMING! Winter's Cumming.

Get it right, man!

 

[DarkOs31]

Just read the Dev logs here that will tell you what's up.{use that search thingy that people tend to forget about}
But yes there is an update coming......join the rest of us
in the pool date.....you might get lucky!

I really hope most of us are wrong and there'll be a release in December .
Reality is,the more popular an AVN gets,the releases take more and more time and no it's not cuz it takes more time.
It's more like "how long can i milk the system until those dumbfucks realise it" , most of the time it goes like this :
First 3-4 high quality releases in a short time (maybe in 1 year) ,popularity skyrockets,patrons increase and money flows in.
Second phase,updates take 6-8 months "cuz quality takes time"
Third phase ,updates take more and more time and excuses arise like "some illness,HDD crashed and lost all assets,or even a hurricane crashed their house" ,sprinkle some polls and some exclusive "8k highest tier" personal request char. renders who'll absolutely apear in the next update (Promise promise) and you have the perfect business created with low effort.
That's what's happening most of the time,YES there are still reliable devs out there who deserve our money ,who are working really really hard to produce high quality content,and there are also devs struggeling with poor quality games,but putting all their heart into this poor quality games.

 

[yossa999]

From reading the latest comments, it seems that people still expect an update to drop even though the last one was over a year ago. Are we sure something new is coming soon? Or is it just hope?

Depends on how you define "soon".

If you're one of those guys who expects updates every 2-3-4 months, then no, SG has never had "short" update cycles.
Furthermore, the current update will be approximately the size of 3-4 regular SG updates. Plus, a few months ago, WiAB update was released (including on Steam), which is approximately twice the size of regular WiAB updates.

Another notable feature of Ocean is that he releases updates sooner or later. Over the five years of WiAB and SG's existence, many games that launched around the same time and were warmly welcomed by the public and had high expectations and promises were abandoned. SG and WiAB are still here. You can read his be-weekly dev logs and see how development is progressing, so unless he's put a ton of effort and imagination into fake logs, the current update's development is heading towards the completion.

If nothing happens to the dev, I think the update will be released near the end of the year, although I wouldn't put my finger on a specific date - it could be December, or January of next year. Ocean has never been known for very accurate time estimates. What I'm sure of is the game hasn't been abandoned, and the dev is working on it.