SToyS

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Look, while I think concerns you listed about no sex in the upcoming season are valid (although I think it's likely to happen), that is very different from Ocean explicitly saying that the entire next season would be 16+, which is what you said.
To be honest, I listed the secondary reasons and didn't include the main one, so as not to start another argument. I won't describe the entire situation, but I'll just give a couple of examples so you understand the essence of the problem that arose among Ocean's subscribers.

Our world is structured in such a way that its most valuable resource is time. Any production is limited by time, even creating renders. Let's take a carpenter who has received an order, for example. He calculates how long it will take him to complete the order (let's say five days), adds a couple more days for unforeseen circumstances, and ultimately tells the client that he'll complete the order in a week. What happens if the carpenter doesn't complete the order within the agreed-upon time? He'll lose money, but most importantly, he'll lose his reputation, and therefore his clients. To preserve his reputation, it's common to offer discounts to clients as an apology.

Now, back to Ocean and his game. When he said he'd finish the game by the end of the year, it means he was sitting there calculating how long it would take him to complete his update. As we all know, he didn't do it. Even if someone had problems, it would be fine if the update came out a week or two later, or a month at most. It's already been over a year. How was Ocean supposed to time his work to delay it by more than a year? What were the reasons for the update's delay for such a long time? Ocean can't answer that.
Let's sum it up. Tell me, after all this, do you think sponsors will treat Ocean like a cool guy or like a scammer milking them? Does Ocean's actions inspire confidence in his sponsors, or does he make them doubt the successful completion of even Season 2?
 

winesty

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jeez 2 years?

this mf can make gta 6 on next update but this never should be normalized by any reason, its just stupid
 

JiiEf

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Valve shouldn't need to store my facial scan nor photo ID, nor my credit card details - in fact, official advice is that they shouldn't store the age verification data, just the fact that age has been verified (possibly by a third party site).

As for their reasoning that requiring a credit card should prevent age bypass by sharing account details, we had the ability ot bypass age checks by borrowing a parent's credit card (or other "responsible" adult's card) when I was growing up in the 80s, and I don't think anything has changed to prevent it since... Any "prove there's an adult attached to the account" scheme has the same limitation - underage people can access the account if the adult lets them.
Yeah, using a third party "age verification service" is even worse. Credit card is clearly the easiest way to implement such a verification, since it requires no additional systems or subcontractors and is easily verifiable later, as well.
 
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