Mod Ren'Py Summertime Saga: SPH Mod [0.20.16 Beta59] [ImTransAndTiny]

[ImTransAndTiny]

When i see the title i thought you made sph to eve do you planning to do stuff like this? (Huge effort for a mod good job btw)

Kinda wouldnt make sense would it? Eve is a transgirl, if she cares at all she probably would prefer her penis to be small. Could do smol titty humiliation I guess... xD

A mod that adds content for a single NPC, and only if you choose the right option for that character's gender. That would be a pretty narrow focus, but a lot less work!

As Silwith pointed out, Eve probably wants a small, feminine cock, not a big, manly one. She probably wouldn't make time for the MC if he made fun of her penis (or tits). If other NPCs found out about her cock, they would be more likely to make fun of the fact that she has a penis rather than its size. Then it turns into a transphobia mod.

I know you're kidding, Silwith, but I'll say it anyway. While it's not nice to make fun of anyone for having small breasts, it's especially unfair to trans women who didn't have the benefit of naturally-occurring estrogen during puberty. Most trans women won't get to V on the Tanner scale with hormones alone and, so, have to get costly surgery. Having small breasts can be a problem for cisgender women, but it can be a matter of life and death for trans women who need to be passable to avoid being a target of transphobic hate.

Long story short, I have no plans to make a mod where people are mean to Eve about her body.

 

[Dragon59]

As Silwith pointed out, Eve probably wants a small, feminine cock, not a big, manly one. She probably wouldn't make time for the MC if he made fun of her penis (or tits). If other NPCs found out about her cock, they would be more likely to make fun of the fact that she has a penis rather than its size. Then it turns into a transphobia mod.

I know you're kidding, Silwith, but I'll say it anyway. While it's not nice to make fun of anyone for having small breasts, it's especially unfair to trans women who didn't have the benefit of naturally-occurring estrogen during puberty. Most trans women won't get to V on the Tanner scale with hormones alone and, so, have to get costly surgery. Having small breasts can be a problem for cisgender women, but it can be a matter of life and death for trans women who need to be passable to avoid being a target of transphobic hate.

Long story short, I have no plans to make a mod where people are mean to Eve about her body.

Waiting for the comments saying they know better than you what transwomen may or may not want.

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

Waiting for the comments saying they know better than you what transwomen may or may not want.

I certainly can't speak for all of them! I can only say that I was thrilled with the changes to my body when I started HRT, and that included the shrinking of parts I wished I didn't have.

 

[Dragon59]

I certainly can't speak for all of them! I can only say that I was thrilled with the changes to my body when I started HRT, and that included the shrinking of parts I wished I didn't have.

I can imagine. I remember one friend of my ex wife. She was so proud about her new breasts brought on by HRT.
I expect that many of these people (usually guys) base their impression of transwomen from those they have seen in porn. One of my impression of Eve was "it seems uncommon that she has such a large penis, given she's presumably on HRT."

I just hope I do a better job when I have my trans characters in my stories. Fortunately, I still have a few friends who are trans or in the loop (my housemate is durable power of attorney for a disabled transwoman.).

Would you be willing to critique my own attempts at transwoman characters?

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

I expect that many of these people (usually guys) base their impression of transwomen from those they have seen in porn.

That's why I say that shemales only exist in porn. Consumers want big cocks that shoot cum, which is impossible on HRT.

One of my impression of Eve was "it seems uncommon that she has such a large penis, given she's presumably on HRT."

I assume that she was on the large end of the spectrum before she transitioned. Maybe she was as big as the MC in the normal game!

I just hope I do a better job when I have my trans characters in my stories. Fortunately, I still have a few friends who are trans or in the loop (my housemate is durable power of attorney for a disabled transwoman.).

Would you be willing to critique my own attempts at transwoman characters?

I'd be happy to help anyone who wants to create realistic transwoman characters.

 

[kalleanka909]

Off topic, but I am curious, what games (both porn and not porn) or stories in the more interactive format, handles trans men and trans women the best? Also what games do you think handle the topic the worst?

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

That's why I say that shemales only exist in porn. Consumers want big cocks that shoot cum, which is impossible on HRT.

Honestly, I'd prefer the smallest micro possible, thin and 2-3 inch long tops when erect, shooting a few tiny spurts hands-free when taking it up the ass. Also unrealistic.

Closest I've seen is Taftaj for the former, though it's a bit longer & thicker. The latter portion is much "harder to come" by.

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

Off topic, but I am curious, what games (both porn and not porn) or stories in the more interactive format, handles trans men and trans women the best? Also what games do you think handle the topic the worst?

I don't recall ever playing a game that had a trans man character. There's way less demand for FTM porn than there is for MTF.

Most of the games I've played that have FTM characters present them as shemales, by which I mean that they're 100% passable as female, but have big dicks that shoot cum. That includes Summertime Saga, obviously.

In Girl Life, there's a FTM character named Eugene. She's not a student. She works in one of the restaurants where the MC can work, and the MC can have sex with her. She has a big dick that shoots cum. No matter how many times you have sex with her, there's no option to date her or see her outside of work, so there's no character development. She's just there so that there's a shemale that you can fuck in the game. Grade: F

Lyssa, in Fetish Locator, has some character development and is portrayed positively. She has a good job. She doesn't seem to have implants. Her breast development is on the upper limit of plausible if she took puberty blockers to delay puberty until she could consent to HRT, and then went through puberty on estrogen, and came from a family of very busty women (so, she would have been a D cup if she been born with XX chromosomes). Despite this, she has a large penis and ejaculates like a cisgender man. So... went through puberty with testosterone, isn't on estrogen, became passable through surgery, and lives in a world where breast implants look like natural breasts? Whatever. She's a shemale with an atypical amount of character development. Grade: C

Then there's Gates Motel. Alex is a main character. She started transition recently and isn't 100% passable. She has a small cock and ejaculates a small load that dribbles out rather than shoots, which are both reasonable for someone early in her transition. She has small breasts that could plausibly be achieved with long term HRT alone. The MC and Alex have a real conversation about how her transition affects their relationship. They talk about the things that prevent her from being passable. She's a realistic, sympathetic trans woman character. Grade: A

 

[Dragon59]

I don't recall ever playing a game that had a trans man character. There's way less demand for FTM porn than there is for MTF.

On the other hand, FtM HRT therapies do some MASSIVE changes to the body. I had one coworker who was FtM. In the beginning of his transition, I misgendered him a few times. As time went on, the change in his face was so stark that it was difficult to remember what he looked like before HRT.

Most of the games I've played that have FTM characters present them as shemales, by which I mean that they're 100% passable as female, but have big dicks that shoot cum. That includes Summertime Saga, obviously.

Sometimes I'm very critical on myself because I'll internally note how passable a particular transwoman is. I tell myself it shouldn't matter, but I still find my brain assessing. As I said before, the size of Eve's penis didn't seem realistic, but neither is the MC's (in the original form). Eve's story was what brought me to the feeling that I would be able to relate to a transwoman as a woman in a romantic sense. My biggest gripe was that the achievement for completing her story arc references Admiral Ackbar of Star Wars, "It's a trap." Someone told me that she'd been intended as a Japanese style trap, a man who dressed as a woman in order to trick het men.

Then again, DC is not without a few cringe-worthy decisions in the game.

In Girl Life, there's a FTM character named Eugene. She's not a student. She works in one of the restaurants where the MC can work, and the MC can have sex with her. She has a big dick that shoots cum. No matter how many times you have sex with her, there's no option to date her or see her outside of work, so there's no character development. She's just there so that there's a shemale that you can fuck in the game. Grade: F

Ugh. Yeah, I've noticed that many trans characters aren't there to let you experience being friends or lovers with someone who happens to be trans, such characters are often added to a game/story that feels like checking off a fetish box.

Then there's Gates Motel. Alex is a main character. She started transition recently and isn't 100% passable. She has a small cock and ejaculates a small load that dribbles out rather than shoots, which are both reasonable for someone early in her transition. She has small breasts that could plausibly be achieved with long term HRT alone. The MC and Alex have a real conversation about how her transition affects their relationship. They talk about the things that prevent her from being passable. She's a realistic, sympathetic trans woman character. Grade: A

An attempt at accuracy is good. It's also more likely to have them be a complete character, in my perception, at least.

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

On the other hand, FtM HRT therapies do some MASSIVE changes to the body. I had one coworker who was FtM. In the beginning of his transition, I misgendered him a few times. As time went on, the change in his face was so stark that it was difficult to remember what he looked like before HRT.

HRT goes very well for people transitioning FTM. Hormones cause development, but they doesn't take it away. For FTM, testosterone deepens the voice and triggers the growth of facial hair and chest hair. Anyone with a beard is passable as a man! It doesn't undo breast development, but it's pretty straightforward surgery.

For MTF, estrogen triggers breast development, but doesn't undo development that already occurred. It doesn't undo the deepened voice, Adam's apple, or facial hair. You need electrolysis or laser hair removal for the facial hair. There's surgery for the Adam's apple. You have to teach yourself to speak in a higher register. It can take a lot of work to be passable.

I know more people who went FTM than MTF. It always seems to go very well. Basically, the only giveaway is height. Not too many cisgender men are 5'3".

 

[tyermotgg2]

ImTransAndTiny Do you recommend any other game with sph?

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

ImTransAndTiny Do you recommend any other game with sph?

The lack of games with SPH is why I decided to mod Summertime Saga! For SPH, it's pretty much just Second Class and maybe Slave U, but those have some pretty extreme content. Even if you disable the optional content, I don't think you can avoid stuff like the MC being tortured and abused.

 

[falamy]

How can i get NTR

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

How can i get NTR

It gets asked and answered about once per page.

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

I decided to add the new dry dream to Beta57, and I'm really happy with how it turned out. It should drop this weekend.

 

[tyermotgg2]

Whats the new dry dream about?

 

[reynold.biplane]

I'm not into any of the fetishes listed in the description, besides urination and futa. At least I think so. I don't know what most of the acronyms mean. Some I can guess. Could you please write them in full, for those not in the know?

Anyway, I'm still gonna try this out, once I'm done with my current playthrough of the base game. The description sounds pretty interesting. I have no strong preference for dicksizes, but it's nice to have some variety for a change. And the other features sound pretty good, too.

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

Whats the new dry dream about?

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[ImTransAndTiny]

Beta57 is out!

It started out as an addendum to Beta56. I found a bunch of images that didn't have Anon's new genitals in them, 14 of which are corrected in Beta57. I also wanted to wrap up the work I had in progress for Debbie and Odette and others, but someone had asked if there were going to be any more dreams, and creating a new dream was more exciting than finishing what I left unfinished in Beta56, so you're getting a new dry dream instead.

I was right that April was much quieter at work than things had been for months but, rather than give myself a break, I decided to tackle the enormous task of upgrading the servers while I had the time, and that kept me busy all month, and I'm still not done. I'm taking it easier, but I'm still not taking it easy. So, less happened on the mod than I hoped, but I'm doing work (at work) that needed to be done years ago and, once done, won't need to be done again for a long time. My hard work now will eventually make my job so easy that I'll have tons of free time, so I think it's worth it.

Barring another distracting bout of new content, Beta58 should finish what I was trying to do for Beta56, and then I'll allow myself to look at my inbox and see the images that James Rabbit created for the mod. I've waited a long time for someone to offer help with images, and I'm looking forward to accepting it as soon as I finally have my shit together and get to a place where I can accept and direct that help.

As for adding new content instead of finishing work on existing (Cookie Jar) images, the new dry dream is kind of important because it required me to create naked body images for Tyrone. This should please some people who desperately want to see Tyrone fucking Roxxy. This was an important step in that direction.

Spoiler: How erotic dreams work in the SPH Mod

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[cannondroid]

thanks for the update, can't wait to see roxxy fucking tyrone in the future.