GNova

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people are really trying to argument that SS is more reliant on pornhub than here, like, yes there is pornhubs videos of SS, like there is videos of animes and other shit, its like saying pornhub is a better platform than MAL to search animes, so disgenuous
 
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CUNTBLAZER420

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At least we're finally back to a point of having SOMETHING to look forward to. Granted, it is just revamped old content and a glimpse of what all the tech really encompasses, but still, its movement. Outside of the people just here to point and laugh at the abandoned tag, this should be a time of CAUTIOUS optimism for all of us.
 

Badjourasmix

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At least we're finally back to a point of having SOMETHING to look forward to. Granted, it is just revamped old content and a glimpse of what all the tech really encompasses, but still, its movement. Outside of the people just here to point and laugh at the abandoned tag, this should be a time of CAUTIOUS optimism for all of us.
Until the tech update is actually finished, people will continue to shit on DC. The fact that he decided to announce a new update this close to the game getting the abandoned tag here, just gave more ammunition to the people that think he is just milking.
 

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people are really trying to argument that SS is more reliant on pornhub than here, like, yes there is pornhubs videos of SS, like there is videos of animes and other shit, its like saying pornhub is a better platform than MAL to search animes, so disgenuous
You forgot to mention people on YouTube also having shilled the game in the past.
 
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The news post is so funny cuz like, I recall being in the stream 3 years ago when people actively brought up all those points as to why it would be a good idea to release the tech update in chunks as they progress or at least allow some of the fans with tech experience to assist part time or on a contract.
And DC just didn't want to complicate the workflow. A workflow that has been 10% of progress over 3 years.

Funniest shit I've seen on this website since waiting 9 months for horse noises.
 

Badjourasmix

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I blame the people that play this on android. I doubt that most people that play this on a pc, give a fuck if the game is widescreen or not.
 
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You forgot to mention people on YouTube also having shilled the game in the past.
i stand by what i said, some not big youtubers shilling for it isn't going to have the same reach that what this site have for Summertime, and this youtubers probably came to this game thanks to this site, its like doujinshi, yeah, we do have some doujinshi in this site, but the reach of a site focused on doujinshi like nhentai, hitomi, e/ex-hentai will bring many more people than f95
 
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GNova

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i stand by what i said, some not big youtubers shilling for it isn't going to have the same reach that what this site have for Summertime, and this youtubers probably came to this game thanks to this site, its like doujinshi, yeah, we do have some doujinshi in this site, but the reach of a site focused on doujinshi like nhentai, hitomi, e/ex-hentai will bring many more people than f95
like, most of the youtube videos that you find, is more of a walkthrough than a video talking about how and where and why you should play, i mean pretty obvious since youtube has kinda of a ban around r18 content
 

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Man, if only. The meme engines are already starting to rev up, and that faint rushing sound you hear is a thousand frustrated hornybois warming up their keyboards and getting ready to dunk on this thread. I predict no less than 15 pages of shitposting and pointing/laughing the day this gets the tag, and it will probably only get worse from there.
We're only on page 12 now. Man, I'm disappointed.
To me it’s always some person speaking/awkwardly muttering in another language while VASTLY skipping through the game.

Does that really generate enough popular interest?
One player on PH has more views of their Summertime Saga playthrough videos than this thread has over 8 years of presence on F95. That's just one player on one video site.
We are more likely to spend money on porn games, we are the direct target audience
While there is a modicum of truth here, the vast majority (well over 90% of the 7 million registered users on the entire of F95 - probably closer to 99%) have never and will never supported any adult game creator on Patreon, Subscribestar or the like.

There are fewer than 600,000 paid subscribers on Patreon who contribute to adult game creators. Every single one would have to also have an account on F95 for us to say that 9% of people on F95 contribute to those creators.

F95 is the target audience for people first starting out to get name and game recognition, and to build a core group of fans... But even then, if a game strikes gold (such as Summertime Saga did) - it outgrows F95's influence.

Turn off personal search settings in your web search engine and do a search for Summertime Saga. I just did on Google and (yuck) Bing. F95 isn't even in the first couple of pages of results. DC's website is. IGN is. Reddit is. The wiki is. YouTube playthrough videos are. Patreon. Uptodown. Amazon. Itchio. TikTok. etc. Once someone sees videos or other items about Summertime Saga somewhere else, when they do a web search for it - they are more likely to go somewhere else than here to learn more.
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Edit: It really doesn't take a lot of people by these standards. He's losing about 3.000 to 4.000 patrons a month, so all he needs is another 3.000 to 4.000 new ones to subscribe.
Remember, that initial drop each month isn't all "lost" subscribers. A lot of that is from "soft declines" from credit/debit card companies for one reason or another that Patreon tries again later in the month. Subscribers with "hard declines" then also fix their payment situation over the month, as well. That may actually be a lot of that drop/rebuild. Also, under the old system, memberships were renewed on the first of the month for everyone - so "soft declines" and "hard declines" would look higher at the beginning of the month because of those. At some time in the recent past, Patreon moved over to rolling renewals (renewing on the same day of the month the new membership started) - so those dips may decrease over time. You can see the difference with smaller, newer developers and how their numbers fluctuate compared to more established developers.
wait, he is going to start updating the game from piece to piece after like, idk 2 or 3 years of tech update???? seriously?
Seriously. Right? It's inexcusable. But I'm not paying anything for it. And his own attitude is similar. He doesn't give a fuck that people talk shit about him and give him shit, overall. He even states "But at least people can play our game for free, you know... It is what it is. You know, people are gonna complain, but you know."

And so since he sees that he is making the game available for free, he feels he has the ability to manage his game however he wants, in the end.
JEEZ i wonder what site would be great to download SS:rolleyes:
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Also it looks like around 4k people dropped from his Patreon already.
It happens every single month. At least be genuine in your argument - or understand how Patreon works before making a ridiculous claim.
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I blame the people that play this on android. I doubt that most people that play this on a pc, give a fuck if the game is widescreen or not.
Back when there were people who actually talked about the game - you would find this is not the case. There were several PC players complaining about the 4:3 aspect ratio and the black bars that I responded to. Also, when android is your largest/growing player demographic - it makes sense. Android is the largest gaming platform around the world, and brings in the most (45-55%) of all video gaming dollars, annually.
 

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Until the tech update is actually finished, people will continue to shit on DC. The fact that he decided to announce a new update this close to the game getting the abandoned tag here, just gave more ammunition to the people that think he is just milking.
These people will never stop talking bad about DC, even if dev update with regularity from next times now.
These people are miserable, envious and somewhat jealous about the deserved, or not, sucess that DC achieved.
Facts.

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Badjourasmix

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Back when there were people who actually talked about the game - you would find this is not the case. There were several PC players complaining about the 4:3 aspect ratio and the black bars that I responded to. Also, when android is your largest/growing player demographic - it makes sense. Android is the largest gaming platform around the world, and brings in the most (45-55%) of all video gaming dollars, annually.
Yea it makes sense. DC especially has a LOT of people that play StS on android. It just sucks because now we're just stuck in this shitshow.
 

Badjourasmix

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These people will never stop talking bad about DC, even if dev update with regularity from next times now.
These people are miserable, envious and somewhat jealous about the deserved, or not, sucess that DC achieved.
Facts.

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People started talking shit when updates started to take like 6 months to come out but it was nowhere near as bad as it is now.
 

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Android versions were a goddamn mistake. The idea go play porn game on the go is weird in the first place. But then again, we're all weirdos here.
I don't think people are playing porn games on the go, more so that their phone is the only device they have that can play the game. There's a reason why the mobile market is so lucrative and its because its the most accessible way to do anything digital by far.

And I think that's for the worse rather than best, catering to mobile devices might have detrimental effects to some games.
 

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These people will never stop talking bad about DC, even if dev update with regularity from next times now.
These people are miserable, envious and somewhat jealous about the deserved, or not, sucess that DC achieved.
Facts.

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Also probably a bit hypocritical, too, in that they'll be defending devs who haven't 'slighted' them yet
 

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People defending patreon devs is always so funny to me.
For a large portion of them they'll do good work on a consistent schedule until they hit it big and then the milking begins while they kick back and relax. You'll be lucky to see them put out an update or two a year.
 

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I think that is true for like a handful of them. I follow a lot of games that are very successful and they release way more than just one or two updates per year.
Honestly I'm just a bit jaded from devs I've supported in the past becoming milkers, like Snats is another example I'd use
 

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Pretty sure the only dev who has remotely clean slate is NLT, and even there I'm not 100% since I haven't checked anything from him since Nadia.
 
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