Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5003] [Kompas Productions]

[CUNTBLAZER420]

Ultimately it's all about variety. And as said, you can hardly have a really nice and deep "classical" romance arc if the girls goes "ah, whatever, I don't care whome else MC fucks" right after that. These choices enable certain plotlines which else just aren't credible.

When it comes to Mia and Mrs. Johnson, it's just the case that they aren't reworked yet and as such simply lack the depth of let's say Roxxy's or Eve's story (these where 50 to 60 day updates instead of the 120 days+ we get nowadays). In fact both of these stories are so old, that they were actually written by DC himself before Sploosh even joined the team. So it's not really a surprise that nothing is fleshed out. That's gonig to change once they are reworked. As of now it looks like the choices will stay but in a slightly different way (at least that's what DC said). Next to that Judith's story will probably get a choice, too.

Granted, yes, Sploosh wasn't on the team yet, but my point still stands. Choices are overrated and a waste of time. And obviously they shifted away from them for a reason and I don't think they'll be coming back, even for Judith. In fact when they eventually do redo the old routes, I wouldn't be surprised if they took them out altogether. Having choices would just mean more dev time and instead of one great route you'd get a decent route that splits into two mediocre parts. Its really, really hard to write satisfying branching storylines and most games that try generally end up suffering because of them. There's always standouts that use them to fantastic effect, but I don't think Summertime Saga would be one of them.

 

[DarkDaemonX]

Sandbox game with 20+ routes all at once is prone to have some wonky bits laying around

Wouldn't have been an issue if it had branching paths instead, or a certain order it makes you do paths in, VN style, which would make a harem path possible.

 

[Omnikuken]

Your point being?

You were going on about newer routes having better side girls. Then listed a bunch of really old routes that you didn't like/remember. I only pointed out that all the routes you listed were indeed really old and/or only had 1 girl in them. Or in the main route's case, wasn't focused on 1 particular girl, so you can't have 1 path that encases every1 involved with massive stories

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

You were going on about newer routes having better side girls. Then listed a bunch of really old routes that you didn't like/remember. I only pointed out that all the routes you listed were indeed really old and/or only had 1 girl in them. Or in the main route's case, wasn't focused on 1 particular girl, so you can't have 1 path that encases every1 involved with massive stories

I was just talking about the routes in general. I apologize if I wasn't clear enough about that and I'm aware that they are older routes (with the exception of the main story) and not to be held up to the standards of the newer routes. I was mostly just trying to prove a point that the routes are better when they're more focused on one girl. Giving you "the girlfriend experience" if you will. And I feel that direction generally benefits the side characters too. They are written mostly to prop up the routes' main chick and it works fantastically. Again, I'm sorry I wasn't more clear about that.

 

[j4yj4m]

In fact when they eventually do redo the old routes, I wouldn't be surprised if they took them out altogether.

Well, that's not DC's current position at least, but you are of course entitled to your opinion. In fact DC himself always favoured these choices.

As it currently stands his plan seems to be to have a split in Mia's branch between Helen and Yumi, while Mia will be available in both cases (Harold always gets the other one in that case), while in Erik's case there's only going to be a choice between June and Mrs. Jonson, while each scenario would be meant to have a threesome option with the other as optional alternative.

I see that we won't agree here anway, but I'll repeat myself insofar, as that there are certainly way better harem games than SS.

Edit:

I was mostly just trying to prove a point that the routes are better when they're more focused on one girl.

Which isn't really a point that's up to discussion, though. The number of girls per route is basically set and won't be changed (3 to 4 per update for the next 3 school girl updates). The question is just how you distribute their scenes. The art that's required hardly changes and ultimately that's the only limiting factor for any update which isn't the tech update.

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

Well, that's not DC's current position at least, but you are of course entitled to your opinion. In fact DC himself always favoured these choices.

As it currently stands his plan seems to be to have a split in Mia's branch between Helen and Yumi, while Mia will be available in both cases (Harold always gets the other one in that case), while in Erik's case there's only going to be a choice between June and Mrs. Jonson, while each scenario would be meant to have a threesome option with the other as optional alternative.

I see that we won't agree here anway, but I'll repeat myself insofar, as that there are certainly way better harem games than SS.

Edit:

Which isn't really a point that's up to discussion, though. The number of girls per route is basically set and won't be changed (3 to 4 per update for the next 3 school girl updates). The question is just how you distribute their scenes. The art that's required hardly changes and ultimately that's the only limiting factor for any update which isn't the tech update.

I said "more focused" not solely focused. Yes there are 3-4 girls per route but the routes' main focus will be one of the "main" girls, Rhonda, Annie, and Judith. Everyone else is a side character within their respective arcs. Yes they will all get scenes and stuff, but the scene distribution and story focus will be heavily swayed to the main character of the arc. That's how Roxy went, that's how Eve went and I guarantee you that's how the rest will go as well. You will never see content lockouts again. I'm doubling down on that. That may not be what the game started out as, but that's almost certainly how it's going to end up.

 

[Omnikuken]

Let's save that post and bring it back next year for R(h)onda's update

 

[PokeIssau]

Hi guys, I have the online gallery (so to speak since it's just the animated scenes) of the Summertime Saga cookie jar.


I usually make them for myself since sometimes I want to see some specific scene but for whatever reason I can't/want to open the game, would you guys like me to upload it here? I have already shared some of the ones I have made, here and here you will find a couple of them.
If you guys don't want, I will keep them for myself or upload it in a separate thread

I leave you some previews.

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cheers

 

[Count Morado]

Hi guys, I have the online gallery (so to speak since it's just the animated scenes) of the Summertime Saga cookie jar.

I usually make them for myself since sometimes I want to see some specific scene but for whatever reason I can't/want to open the game, would you guys like me to upload it here? I have already shared some of the ones I have made, here and here you will find a couple of them.
If you guys don't want, I will keep them for myself or upload it in a separate thread

cheers

There's an already well-established Fan Art thread linked from the OP that would have a lot of folks wanting more of your work.

 

[Misterafro]

If you need larger text, my mod provides a customizable font size.

Thanks but I'm using my phone to play it.

 

[j4yj4m]

I said "more focused" not solely focused. Yes there are 3-4 girls per route but the routes' main focus will be one of the "main" girls, Rhonda, Annie, and Judith. Everyone else is a side character within their respective arcs. Yes they will all get scenes and stuff, but the scene distribution and story focus will be heavily swayed to the main character of the arc. That's how Roxy went, that's how Eve went and I guarantee you that's how the rest will go as well. You will never see content lockouts again. I'm doubling down on that. That may not be what the game started out as, but that's almost certainly how it's going to end up.

You can triple and quadruple down on it, I'm just repeating what DC said several times on his streams not that long ago. You don't have to take my word.

In Roxxy's case there's simply no choice needed givne that she's a cuck and in Eve's case Sploosh actually even hinted it (or what do you think the other dialog choices are for?) but they didn't pull through. I'm not even saying that the secodary and tertirary chracaters need more content, I'm just saying not doing it does lead to bad/unfavourable outcomes, like it now did in Grace's case. If someone likes Grace, he essentially has to play Eve's full story, get all lovey-dovey with her just to get scenes with Grace who is feeling guilty about all of that.

Let's save that post and bring it back next year for R(h)onda's update

As far as I'm aware Rhonda and Annie never were supposed to get a split/choice, so you'd indeed have to wait until Judith. I'm clearly not saying that there should be choices everywhere, but just that there are some situations where they simply make a lot of sense.

Edit: I'm 100% sure that at least in Mia's case a choice will remain - given the amount of content they've added for Harold/Yumi* and given how Harold is displayed in for example the main story anything else just doesn't make sense anymore. In Erik's case I'm at least 99% sure, given that DC seems to have made up his mind about it and given that the alternatives actually seem quite a bit worse.

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[PokeIssau]

There's an already well-established Fan Art thread linked from the OP that would have a lot of folks wanting more of your work.

yeah, you're totally right, although this is certainly not fanart, it's a rip from the game. I think I will save it for myself, I could make some fanarts tho, I have some free time.

 

[Stil996]

yeah, you're totally right, although this is certainly not fanart, it's a rip from the game. I think I will save it for myself, I could make some fanarts tho, I have some free time.

Lots of game threads have CG rips, I don't see why you couldn't post a link to your rip archive then report it asking for it to be added the OP, many of us would appreciate it

 

[twichman]

I decided to upload the cookie jar gallery online so you don't have to download anything to see them.
If you saw the post but still don't see the scene of your favorite girl, come back later, I'm uploading them right now.

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I'll upload them in full image, if you prefer them in thumbnail tell me and I can change it

Let's start with Jenny
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I think it would be better to create an archive and place it on file hosting, and post a link here and ask the admin to put it on the OP.

 

[Stil996]

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Any chance you could upload it as a zip to one of the download sites, uploading individual gifs like this is hard on my bandwidth, I imagine it will get deleted for putting to much stress on the thread, even if you don't open the spoilers they load in the background killing peoples bandwidth, not to mention the poor souls who have to pay per MB

 

[PokeIssau]

Any chance you could upload it as a zip to one of the download sites, uploading individual gifs like this is hard on my bandwidth, I imagine it will get deleted for putting to much stress on the thread, even if you don't open the spoilers they load in the background killing peoples bandwidth, not to mention the poor souls who have to pay per MB

You really think so? I dont have that problem and so far nobody had commented that it would do badly in the previous galleries, but you are right, people with low bandwidth still suffer, as far as I know if you don't open the spoiler the image does not load but I'll ask a moderator about this, that way I don't waste my time uploading them here haha.
Thanks for ur comment

EDIT:
I asked and it is better for everyone if I make a separate one, that way whoever wants to enter will do so and whoever doesn't, well not.
When I finish I will comment on it and request that it be put in the OP.
Thank you all for your comments.

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

You can triple and quadruple down on it, I'm just repeating what DC said several times on his streams not that long ago. You don't have to take my word.

In Roxxy's case there's simply no choice needed givne that she's a cuck and in Eve's case Sploosh actually even hinted it (or what do you think the other dialog choices are for?) but they didn't pull through. I'm not even saying that the secodary and tertirary chracaters need more content, I'm just saying not doing it does lead to bad/unfavourable outcomes, like it now did in Grace's case. If someone likes Grace, he essentially has to play Eve's full story, get all lovey-dovey with her just to get scenes with Grace who is feeling guitly about all of that.


As far as I'm aware Rhonda and Annie never were supposed to get a split/choice, so you'd indeed have to wait until Judith. I'm clearly not saying that there should be choices everywhere, but just that there are some situations where they simply make a lot of sense.

Edit: I'm 100% sure that at least in Mia's case a choice will remain - given the amount of content they've added for Harold/Yumi* and given how Harold is displayed in for example the main story anything else just doesn't make sense anymore. In Erik's case I'm at least 99% sure, given that DC seems to have made up his mind about it and given that the alternatives actually seem quite a bit worse.

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Really, I can only argue my point so many times before I start sounding like a broken record. Pretty much everything I can come up with from this point on I've already said. I stand by it all and will be quadrupling down. DC is full of shit. There will be no more branching paths. Lock in of the century. They are a waste of time for all involved and if DC and Sploosh don't see that know, they will when they start writing it. A focused, tightly written story will always be better and easier.

 

[lawlawkagurL]

anyone here kind enough to share their full save for the latest version?
I have unlocked scenes for some characters in the cookie jar..

thanks to anyone who'll respond =)

 

[j4yj4m]

Really, I can only argue my point so many times before I start sounding like a broken record. Pretty much everything I can come up with from this point on I've already said. I stand by it all and will be quadrupling down. DC is full of shit. There will be no more branching paths. Lock in of the century. They are a waste of time for all involved and if DC and Sploosh don't see that know, they will when they start writing it. A focused, tightly written story will always be better and easier.

I think we should really stop this here, yes. Though I really have to ask you if actually believe that DC does care about the time it takes to do anything in this game? I mean, when did he ever spent time on content/art that is technically not needed? /s

 

[Stil996]

...A focused, tightly written story will always be better and easier.

Easier definitely, Better is debatable,
Better if you want a VN, not better if you want a game. (Games need choices, but they need to be intelligent choices not these poorly thought out pieces of filler that most Devs are loading their games with (and I'm counting AAA games here too)
right now this is a VN and the existing branches don't really make sense.

A Branch making you choose between Eve and Roxxy could make sense because Eve would be genuinely upset to discover you were fucking Roxxy,
A branch making you choose between Mia and her mom is stupid IMO, because a brainwashed mom is perfect for reeling in her distraught daughter into some mother/daughter cleansing rites (having her father out the picture is a win/win situation in regard to corrupting her), a branch here would only make sense if it were a dark path vs good path.
And with what logic do you consider a woman willing to have a threesome with her son and his best friend, but wouldn't be willing to have one on one action with that same best friend when her son isn't around. and why can't Erik have a girlfriend and mommy/son time, whats good for the MC is good for his Bro!

Not my intention to reopen an argument that has been raging over the last few pages, just having a little rant at some of the things I've re-experienced after starting again from the beginning.

Can anyone tell me if there is any impact planned from the Tony/Maria branch, where you choose for him the be present/absent from your impregnating efforts, is that purely an aesthetic choice? or are they planning on blocking more content depending on what you choose?