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Dark_Wolf -- probably not, because what's holding up the pre-tech isn't the art. It appears that coding and posing is what's is lagging. Both of which would then get more work added if DC were to bump another scene or two and delaying the pre-tech 5 even further. j4yJ4m, Hero1, or Omnikuken would have better insight, though.

Also, since it's been about 9 days or so:
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I'm not privy to anything. I'm just able to read what others post and actually do something with it, instead of crying about DC milking duders
There, I edited out the quotes around sick. Sorry about that.

My question still stands: What are the chances?

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Chances are pretty low. Though he may come and dump her on us for batch 5. He's already over 2 months late with announcements about it, might as well delay it some more and add her. Or not. Gotta wonder where she'd go though : main route is done and not much else would fit with her having scenes. There won't be a batch 6 too (unless again DC turns around and "surprises" us), so she'd be there purely from thin air or some random update made for her (highly doubtful). Even most remakes wouldn't make much sense, she seems there entirely cause DC got bored and had time to burn
 
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I'm not privy to anything. I'm just able to read what others post and actually do something with it, instead of crying about DC milking duders

Chances are pretty low. Though he may come and dump her on us for batch 5. He's already over 2 months late with announcements about it, might as well delay it some more and add her. Or not. Gotta wonder where she'd go though : main route is done and not much else would fit with her having scenes. There won't be a batch 6 too (unless again DC turns around and "surprises" us), so she'd be there purely from thin air or some random update made for her (highly doubtful). Even most remakes wouldn't make much sense, she seems there entirely cause DC got bored and had time to burn
Thanks for the reply Omnikuken. Her being shoehorned into the main route was my thought as well.
I could also see a "surprise" 6th batch, since it wasn't clear at first if the 5th batch was going to be the final update before the Tech Update.
 
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Pretty sure everyone is going to be so disappointed when it comes out and there is so little content.

The reason it is probably taking so long, is because the game is supposedly be rewritten into a dating thing like love second base or w/e.

........ and all those poor bastards who donated and supported the game for what it is now, get screwed.
 

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Pretty sure everyone is going to be so disappointed when it comes out and there is so little content.

The reason it is probably taking so long, is because the game is supposedly be rewritten into a dating thing like love second base or w/e.

........ and all those poor bastards who donated and supported the game for what it is now, get screwed.
Disappointed ? Yes, cause no1 around here knows wtf is happening and think the tech build will have the entire game's worth of scenes added on top of what we already have and not just get wider screen with more places to go

Remade into a dating VN ? Lolnope and what the actual F would that be. Aside from where did that junk come from

Donators get screwed ? By what measure did you come up with that ? They give $ to tell DC they like his work and want to support the game. Whatever he does with it is up to him. If they feel shafted, they could just drop the pledge and move on. It's pretty hard to get screwed over something you can ditch the moment you don't like it anymore
 
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Disappointed ? Yes, cause no1 around here knows wtf is happening and think the tech build will have the entire game's worth of scenes added on top of what we already have and not just get wider screen with more places to go

Remade into a dating VN ? Lolnope and what the actual F would that be. Aside from where did that junk come from

Donators get screwed ? By what measure did you come up with that ? They give $ to tell DC they like his work and want to support the game. Whatever he does with it is up to him. If they feel shafted, they could just drop the pledge and move on. It's pretty hard to get screwed over something you can ditch the moment you don't like it anymore
There has been a bunch of rumours where he is changing How you do the girls interactions, to that of the Love Second Base dating, instead of what we have now. I am more than absolute sure everyone did not donate for that crap.
 
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There has been a bunch of rumours where he is changing How you do the girls interactions, to that of the Love Second Base dating, instead of what we have now. I am more than absolute sure everyone did not donate for that crap.
Let's sort it out a bit.

First of all, it's not like the dating is gonig to change any content. It's true, that a dating system will be implemented at some point (certainly not in the tech update), but it's only going to be an addition for the main school girls. Like in Roxxy's case for example, instead of going right to sex once MC beats Dexter and finishes her story, he'll be able to take her out on dates to unluck a bit of additional lewd content, before the actual sex scenes and the possibility to take her as his prom date are unlocked.

Next to that, the dating system has been part of the plan since 2017, so it's not like anybody could claim they didn't know that it's going to come.
 
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a dating system will be implemented at some point
Will it, though? Will it? At best, it will be implemented in a vary half-assed way and never get finished. There is so much content that is a "work in progress" and has been for at least a year. I have a feeling that the Dev got burnt out and that this game will eventually grind to a halt and that is disappointing.
 
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Will it, though? Will it? At best, it will be implemented in a vary half-assed way and never get finished. There is so much content that is a "work in progress" and has been for at least a year. I have a feeling that the Dev got burnt out and that this game will eventually grind to a halt and that is disappointing.
Well, the tech update is going to add all of the locations needed for the dates, including some interiors.

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People have been saying the exact same thing about burn out for like 3 to 4 years by now and so far I don't really see any indication of that happening. Sure, at times he does stuff he likes because he wants to it and not because it's really needed for the game. But if that's his way to keep himself motivated, that's fine to me.
 

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Will it, though? Will it? At best, it will be implemented in a vary half-assed way and never get finished. There is so much content that is a "work in progress" and has been for at least a year. I have a feeling that the Dev got burnt out and that this game will eventually grind to a halt and that is disappointing.
Your post and your signature are the definition of irony. Both developers - DC of Summertime Saga and NR of LOML - have their own ways of developing games. Both have progress charts which get updated regularly. Both interact with their fanbase regularly (DC during his streams and NR on discord). Both have their detractors which say development takes too long. Yet it appears you're dumping on one and favoriting another.
 
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Well, the tech update is going to add all of the locations needed for the dates, including some interiors.

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People have been saying the exact same thing about burn out for like 3 to 4 years by now and so far I don't really see any indication of that happening. Sure, at times he does stuff he likes because he wants to it and not because it's really needed for the game. But if that's his way to keep himself motivated, that's fine to me.
Wow........ A new map! Holy shit!!! That's fucking AMAZING!!!!!!!! Never in my life have I ever been so WRONG!!!!!!!!!! This changes everything! I will donate all of my life savings IMMEDIATLY.

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Your post and your signature are the definition of irony. Both developers - DC of Summertime Saga and NR of LOML - have their own ways of developing games. Both have progress charts which get updated regularly. Both interact with their fanbase regularly (DC during his streams and NR on discord). Both have their detractors which say development takes too long. Yet it appears you're dumping on one and favoriting another.
The two games are completely different. LOML is a VN. SS is not. That is like comparing a potato to a Ferrari.
 
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Wow........ A new map! Holy shit!!! That's fucking AMAZING!!!!!!!! Never in my life have I ever been so WRONG!!!!!!!!!! This changes everything! I will donate all of my life savings IMMEDIATLY.

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Are you ok? I simply mentioned that he actually started working on the dating system. You may make of that whatever you want. Also you certainly won't hear me saying that anybody should donate money to DC.

But yeah, people have been claiming "x won't happen" for years and until now the game is simply progessing, slowly - yes - but steadily.
 

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Yes, but what I'm saying is that a lot of things in the game have been a WIP for years. The Dev really should complete one project BEFORE moving on to the next one.
 

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Yes, but what I'm saying is that a lot of things in the game have been a WIP for years. The Dev really should complete one project BEFORE moving on to the next one.
In most cases this is actually a simple question of worldbuilding and story telling.
You can either basically start with a dead, empty world and have very few characters available, while adding more, when you actually want to introduce content for them, or you make your world alive by adding most of them from the start, so you can use these characters for quests and stuff. That of course risks some of them not getting real content for years and a lot of things being WIP.

Last but not least, ultimately it's up to those who pay to vote who is next - if they hadn't voted for the main story and the tech update, for example, we'd likely be having content for Ronda, Annie and Judith by now.

Edit: Just to add, I'm not saying that DC is doing everything straight to the point and that there hasn't been quite a bit of content that technically wouldn't have been necessary. All I'm saying is, that it's not as clear cut as it may sound.
 
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My guess is that he started work on the pre-tech update around the time of the annoucement... Its been two months and he still hasn't finished the drawings for Kim's Sister scene (3 weeks of streams)
Pre-tech 5 will have 7 h-scenes with the warehouse girls (Svetlana, Katya and Khadne).Kim's Sister scene is not for upcoming update.
 

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I feel Summertime Saga is the porno game equivalent to Star Citizen.

There is no need for DC to ever finish/release updates because he keeps making money for putting out no content.

I like the game a lot and used to be a patron a few years back, but it's pretty obvious with the way the game has been trending. Went from an update every 3 months, to 2 updates a year. The main story was split into 2 parts, then became 3.... Tech update has been 1.5 years and is not close to being done. Back in July he said that Pre-Tech update 5 will be wrapping up the content soon. My guess is that he started work on the pre-tech update around the time of the annoucement... Its been two months and he still hasn't finished the drawings for Kim's Sister scene (3 weeks of streams)

I would do the same if I made 5 figures every month regardless of my work output, so no hate to DC. Its just weird to see people defend him and this game so adamantly when it's pretty obvious he is bored/checked out

Roxxy and Jenny Rework was peak Summertime Saga. Those days are probably long behind us
As noted above : Kim's sister isn't part of anything. DC working on her for 6 months won't do anything. His part for the tech build was mostly finished last year. Everything he's been doing since then is random junk and/or R(h)onda's update (which should be mostly done by now).

You and most other crylords will really need to figure this out : DC does art. Period. Everything else is made by other people. Saying "dev blows, he's been milking for years while doing nothing" is not only factually incorrect, you're also moaning about the wrong dude
 
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Let's sort it out a bit.

First of all, it's not like the dating is gonig to change any content. It's true, that a dating system will be implemented at some point (certainly not in the tech update), but it's only going to be an addition for the main school girls. Like in Roxxy's case for example, instead of going right to sex once MC beats Dexter and finishes her story, he'll be able to take her out on dates to unluck a bit of additional lewd content, before the actual sex scenes and the possibility to take her as his prom date are unlocked.

Next to that, the dating system has been part of the plan since 2017, so it's not like anybody could claim they didn't know that it's going to come.
I really wish he'd worked out the dating system earlier on. It would have added so much more depth to the game beyond fetch quests and following the phone walkthrough, and he could have added small bits to build up multiple characters rather than trying to get out entire storylines in one massive chunk. The sex scenes are great, but I really love all the little interactions you get when you take characters out into the world and see them bounce off one another. So much of Roxxy's charm comes from seeing her slagging on Becca/Missy, getting into fights with Eve, or rolling her eyes at Dexter. I think Judith would have won her poll a lot earlier if we'd gotten to know her outside of just blushing at the MC or being the buttmonkey of the sexy situation du jour.

Trying to shoehorn it into a late-stage game is going to be a pain and a half, too. Lord knows we don't get enough complaints about save compatibility as is, and I wouldn't be shocked if it results in another long dev fiasco unless they're laying the groundwork for it as part of the Tech Update. Here's hoping, anyways.
 
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