Count Morado

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Is there some new stupid patreon guidline that prohibits use of the word school as in High school? First Taffy Tales started with the colege bullshit now this. Tired of the mental gimnastics you are forced to go through to fill în the blanks. News flash Debby ia Your mom, Jenny is Your sister , Tammy is Kevins mother etc. In a world where You can watch the most disgusting and gruesome shit, people being beheaded, etc, this gets censored. Because heaven forbid.
It's not a new guideline. It's been that way for 5+ years. Any implication that the creator's work promoted on Patreon has nudity or sexual content of characters - real or imagined - who are considered under the age of 18 can cause a creator's account to be terminated. Having the setting as high school implies inclusion of characters who are under the age of 18. It moved from being a high school to college at the same time relationships were changed before v0.13 when the account (and other creators' of similarly themed content) were frozen until changes were made which Patreon allowed. Creators had the choice of coming into some kind of compliance or losing their accounts. The developer chose to remain on Patreon.

If you find content from another creator that is promoted on Patreon that doesn't follow TOU, they haven't been caught. Yet.
what new scenes are there?
(Sorry for my bad english)
See #4 from my FAQ #67,535
 

Miðgarðsormr

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Patreon's TOS also doesn't force DC to give substantial updates. He could do only bug fixes for the foreseeable future like Cloud Meadow and he'd be right within TOS. But I'm talking about principle here. Summertime Saga wouldn't be possible without Patrons and he wouldn't be raking in the amount of money he does without them. Pretty easy, pretty simple.

I don't think DC is necessarily doing something wrong but to claim that he owes no one anything is bullshit in my opinion. In his position I would freeze payments until the tech update is done, you know, out of good will. Or maybe don't put polls behind a paywall and make them public on Discord. He doesn't care about money so why wouldn't he?

This is just my opinion of course but I'd say it's a reasonable one.
OFC it is a reasonable request for you but not for the side recieving the money. But i have to assume now that you are young (which i am not) and didn't learn a certain lesson in life yet.

Either you make money or you follow principles. If you wanna make lots of money you have to throw your principles out the window. If you wanna follow principles alot of business opportunities will slip through your fingers that could make alot of money.

If you think getting rich is done by pleasing others you are in for a surprise.
I write for a living in the german language. If i please everyone who buys my stuff i don't make a penny. I have to please only 2 people. My publisher and my agent. The rest i don't give a shit about as those 2 ensure my income. Sure fans can voice their opinion or critique but thats just for show. No one actually listens to them.

Same with this project. DC could do what you suggest and please alot of people including yourself. But lose thousands of dollars in the process over months with even the chance of never making that amount ever again.
No one would ever do such a thing. Including you.

You gotta beat the iron as long as its hot.

I totally understand your approach. But i also know the business side of things. What you suggest will never happen because that would mean to throw money away.
 

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OFC it is a reasonable request for you but not for the side recieving the money. But i have to assume now that you are young (which i am not) and didn't learn a certain lesson in life yet.

Either you make money or you follow principles. If you wanna make lots of money you have to throw your principles out the window. If you wanna follow principles alot of business opportunities will slip through your fingers that could make alot of money.

If you think getting rich is done by pleasing others you are in for a surprise.
I write for a living in the german language. If i please everyone who buys my stuff i don't make a penny. I have to please only 2 people. My publisher and my agent. The rest i don't give a shit about as those 2 ensure my income. Sure fans can voice their opinion or critique but thats just for show. No one actually listens to them.

Same with this project. DC could do what you suggest and please alot of people including yourself. But lose thousands of dollars in the process over months with even the chance of never making that amount ever again.
No one would ever do such a thing. Including you.

You gotta beat the iron as long as its hot.

I totally understand your approach. But i also know the business side of things. What you suggest will never happen because that would mean to throw money away.
You're right, I'm young. But I do know that being a goody-two-shoes who always does the right thing isn't going to get you very far in life. You have to do unethical things to get rich. I do think it isn't completely black and white though, you can still make decent money while also being somewhat ethical, but that's completely off-topic.

Anyways, while what you're saying is true, it also supports what people have been saying in this thread. DC does care about money and he sure as hell doesn't rush development to complete the game. I've said this before; it isn't that far of a reach that DC doesn't hire new people, perpetuates development and/or is taking his sweet time with this game because the revenue he gets now isn't guaranteed to last. Who says that his next project will be as successful as SS, or even if SS stays as successful as it is now? It's happened countless of times that porn devs lose their audience and by extension, their revenue.

The dude can take the bag, more power to him. But some people here need to stop their delusional dickriding and see the situation for what it is. The game's development is in a sad state right now and, again, it isn't that far fetched to entertain the idea that DC isn't just an innocent guy trying his hardest to make a good game but just sucks at leading a project.

I can't look in the dude's head and I might be completely wrong, but you simply can't tell me that there isn't incentive for him to stretch out SS money.
 

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You're right, I'm young. But I do know that being a goody-two-shoes who always does the right thing isn't going to get you very far in life. You have to do unethical things to get rich. I do think it isn't completely black and white though, you can still make decent money while also being somewhat ethical, but that's completely off-topic.

Anyways, while what you're saying is true, it also supports what people have been saying in this thread. DC does care about money and he sure as hell doesn't rush development to complete the game. I've said this before; it isn't that far of a reach that DC doesn't hire new people, perpetuates development and/or is taking his sweet time with this game because the revenue he gets now isn't guaranteed to last. Who says that his next project will be as successful as SS, or even if SS stays as successful as it is now? It's happened countless of times that porn devs lose their audience and by extension, their revenue.

The dude can take the bag, more power to him. But some people here need to stop their delusional dickriding and see the situation for what it is. The game's development is in a sad state right now and, again, it isn't that far fetched to entertain the idea that DC isn't just an innocent guy trying his hardest to make a good game but just sucks at leading a project.

I can't look in the dude's head and I might be completely wrong, but you simply can't tell me that there isn't incentive for him to stretch out SS money.
I fully support this comment. (I'm sorry for my English from now on). This has to STOP. I've been a patreon for a few time and I've completely lost interest in support this stupid project. I'm done with being milked, and that's what DC is doing to their patreons. And it looks like DC wants to retire once he has finished StS, because NOBODY will trust this man again on Patreon if he keeps prolonging this, in this unethical way. PERIOD
 
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ok if I get the wiki right I can go erik + tammy + mc or mc + tammy or mc + june the game doesnt let you have both tammy and june at the same time is either one or the other like with mia right?
 

Count Morado

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correct me if I'm wrong somebody but there will be no Rhonda or Annie content in the tech update
Rhonda and Annie updates are in the plan as after the tech update. From -- traditionally, each cookie represents a different update
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man the only reason I stopped playing this 3 or 4 versions ago is how difficult it is to fucking install with the mods and make the older saves work... and find out what new events are there from inside the game. Has any of this been resolved?
 

Count Morado

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man the only reason I stopped playing this 3 or 4 versions ago is how difficult it is to fucking install with the mods and make the older saves work... and find out what new events are there from inside the game. Has any of this been resolved?
You don't need any mods for this game - but there are several mods available to enhance your experience with help from those mod designers in their own threads. Links are in OP.

Save compatibility may still be a problem for some. However, see #7 from my FAQ #67,535 because you can start at new content. As for what new events are - there is an in-game changelog that has been present for quite a long time (years?) on the main menu - lower right corner, if I remember correctly. There are spoilers in the list of new events to give you information on how to get them. However, if you look at #4 of my FAQ - you will be able to learn all the new events in v0.20.11-16 and how to get them.
 

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ok if I get the wiki right I can go erik + tammy + mc or mc + tammy or mc + june the game doesnt let you have both tammy and june at the same time is either one or the other like with mia right?
At this point dude, either keep checking the wiki, actually play the game and witness stuff or go ask in the playthrough thread .....
 
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