Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5003] [Kompas Productions]

[JimboKern]

Look, not wanting to detract from your opinion, but the fact that the game is practically free weighs a little in terms of the fact that the biggest criticism regarding this is the delay in updates.

Let's look at the facts.
Darkcookie as far as I remember didn't do any art or college of any kind (at least he never commented on the streams) He learned by doing, his team is also made up of people of similar caliber, and given that each of them must have their reasons to continue in the project, some dev's have their own work and do a kind of help for Dark.
He has his family himself, so the time he spends developing the game is limited.

But even so, I believe it delays certain points on purpose... I'm a programmer and I tell you, it's not that difficult to write lines of code for a game like SummertimeSaga, I've already messed with some game files myself to see what I found over there (I know, I do this with every game, kind of a habit like I'm looking for something that doesn't exist)

But, everyone has their own opinion. But both sides have strong arguments.

He worked as an artist in game development before.
The thing he had no prior knowledge was coding, hence why he started with Summertime Saga and one of the big reasons the code is messed up. Alongside quite a few switches in between the coders along the way.

As a programmer you should know how difficult it can be to get into someones mess without clear descriptions etc.
Even worse when there is/was more than one person who worked on different portions of it.
Different styles, different usage of code,variables, operators and many more factors.

There's like zero reason for him to delay it. No monthly goals or promised updates.
It's also not like he doesn't want it to end. He already mentioned planning and putting some thoughts into concepts of a new game once Summertime Saga is finished.
I think he'll use that experience on the next game regarding planning, starting the entire process etc. so he won't make the same mistakes again.

There are some factors that deserve valid criticism, but the majority of shit that gets thrown at the wall here is nauseating.
People really need to get back to stuff once it's done. It's a lot more healthy than to waste their time with being angry, for not being able to wank to a certain game for a while.
There's plenty of porn and/or game alternatives out there. It's a niche thats attracting some unecessary angry people for whatever reason.

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

It's a niche thats attracting some unecessary angry people for whatever reason.

SS combines the two things that guys take most seriously: porn and gaming.

 

[S1nsational]

SS combines the two things that guys take most seriously: porn and gaming.

I';m not sure what your point is or what you're trying to say, you've quoted me saying something I've never said

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

I';m not sure what your point is or what you're trying to say, you've quoted me saying something I've never said

I just pressed the reply button. I have no idea why F95zone attached your name to someone else's quote. Something to bring to the admins' attention, I guess.

 

[Omnikuken]

I';m not sure what your point is or what you're trying to say, you've quoted me saying something I've never said

Your name is somehow in there for some random reason. The real quote is from the dude above. Weird

He worked as an artist in game development before.
The thing he had no prior knowledge was coding, hence why he started with Summertime Saga and one of the big reasons the code is messed up. Alongside quite a few switches in between the coders along the way.

As a programmer you should know how difficult it can be to get into someones mess without clear descriptions etc.
Even worse when there is/was more than one person who worked on different portions of it.
Different styles, different usage of code,variables, operators and many more factors.

There's like zero reason for him to delay it. No monthly goals or promised updates.
It's also not like he doesn't want it to end. He already mentioned planning and putting some thoughts into concepts of a new game once Summertime Saga is finished.
I think he'll use that experience on the next game regarding planning, starting the entire process etc. so he won't make the same mistakes again.

There are some factors that deserve valid criticism, but the majority of shit that gets thrown at the wall here is nauseating.
People really need to get back to stuff once it's done. It's a lot more healthy than to waste their time with being angry, for not being able to wank to a certain game for a while.
There's plenty of porn and/or game alternatives out there. It's a niche thats attracting some unecessary angry people for whatever reason.

New game won't happen anytime soon (if at all). DC isn't gonna drop STS tomorrow cause he layed down "something" 5+ years ago when STS was barely coming out on Patreon. Even if the ragers say otherwise (cause reasons)

 

[Oakwick]

Dumb question, but is this game not widescreen? I can't change resolution. I'll appreciate help if anyone know.

 

[Lupin the 3rd]

I think that the Team will replace all the old scenes from the women who didn´t had their Remaster Update yet with the current artstyle, maybe that is the reason it takes so much time with the Tech Update. So that Remaster Updates wouldn´t be necessary anymore in the future since they would be done in the Tech Update. This could be a surprise from Dark Cookie to us in which he worked off stream. Then, future Pulls would be just for new scenes and no Remasters for Debbie, Tammy and so on anymore since they would be done in the Tech Update.

It´s just a theory of mine though.

 

[Omnikuken]

I think that the Team will replace all the old scenes from the women who didn´t had their Remaster Update yet with the current artstyle, maybe that is the reason it takes so much time with the Tech Update. So that Remaster Updates wouldn´t be necessary anymore in the future since they would be done in the Tech Update. This could be a surprise from Dark Cookie to us in which he worked off stream. Then, future Pulls would be just for new scenes and no Remasters for Debbie, Tammy and so on anymore since they would be done in the Tech Update.

It´s just a theory of mine though.

Lolnope. It wasn't polled and never was part of anything. Tech update is wider screen and new places, not remaking the art for 10+ girls

 

[Count Morado]

Spoiler: The Count's FAQ for Summertime Saga (66)

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Dumb question, but is this game not widescreen? I can't change resolution. I'll appreciate help if anyone know.

4:3 was the default screen display ratio for Ren'Py for many years (is it still? I don't know). In fact, default screen resolution for Ren'Py was 800x600. The development of Summertime Saga started during those years. See the original goals linked in #10 of my FAQ above to see how the first listed goal of this long tech update is conversion to wide screen.

 

[arkhamtheknight]

New update, still not compatible with Joiplay

That's a shame. Was kinda hoping to use it on that.

 

[zarqupang]

i am just say forums are for people to share there thought's. some time's people fight over thing's like art styles story's it;s just the way the would is i don't like fighing over stuff nether but i can't stop people from doing it too.

 

[Omnikuken]

Whenever i come here to check this thread i always see people fighting over DC is milking or not .
Let me tell you 2 things :
1. For DC's defenders , if game is free how tf he makes 70000/month from it so technically it's not free . Remember people waiting for it so they pay their time for it . And if he doesn't pay you for defending him , why defending him at all ?
2. For people who says he is milking , good for him he's smart enough to make 70000/month from people masturbating, learn to do that too and stop bitchin about it.

This thread supposed to be for downloading and getting new info about game not battle ground.

Do you have to pay to get the game ? No ? Then it's free (not to mention it's like the 1st line on the Patreon page). People on Patreon do something called a donation : they give $ to a dev to tell him "gj dude, I like your project, here's some $ to help you keep doing it". Doesn't change if 1 dude gives 1$ or 25k dudes give 80k per month

 

[Count Morado]

Do you have to pay to get the game ? No ? Then it's free (not to mention it's like the 1st line on the Patreon page). People on Patreon do something called a donation : they give $ to a dev to tell him "gj dude, I like your project, here's some $ to help you keep doing it". Doesn't change if 1 dude gives 1$ or 25k dudes give 80k per month

It's like PBS, but for a different demographic.

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(edit: waiting for the next mod clearing)

 

[Lupin the 3rd]

Lolnope. It wasn't polled and never was part of anything. Tech update is wider screen and new places, not remaking the art for 10+ girls

Yes, that was the case what the Tech Update should be. But maybe, just maybe, the plan was changed from the Team intern to include all Remasters they still needed to do, to get it done to move forward. It´s a possibility. Like I said, we don´t know exactly what Dark Cookie does for this game off stream. Maybe he really worked on doing the Remasters. It would be a good opportunity for Cookies Team to get the Remasters done alongside the tech update.

But like I said, it´s just a Theory by me, we see what it will be anyway. Either it´s really just the Widescreen or it will be really a more pollished up Update.

 

[MurkyTurtle]

Yes, that was the case what the Tech Update should be. But maybe, just maybe, the plan was changed from the Team intern to include all Remasters they still needed to do, to get it done to move forward. It´s a possibility. Like I said, we don´t know exactly what Dark Cookie does for this game off stream. Maybe he really worked on doing the Remasters. It would be a good opportunity for Cookies Team to get the Remasters done alongside the tech update.

But like I said, it´s just a Theory by me, we see what it will be anyway. Either it´s really just the Widescreen or it will be really a more pollished up Update.

I agree, I think the Tech Update was too good a chance to not get done a lot of the smaller art and story re-works. DC's been doing art remasters of older girls on streams for years and he's still modifying their art nearly constantly. This is off his November 16 stream:


Look at those "Date Modified" dates. When he went into the Jenny folder nearly every one of her files had modifications within the last month. Trying to move girls piecemeal onto the rig system at this point would break the game and possibly the fan base, so he probably figured that sneaking all the updated art into the Tech Update would kill two birds with one stone and be a nice little bonus for his patient Patreons. But DC's track record for estimating how long something will take is hot garbage, and at this point they're far too deep into the weeds to back out.

 

[Omnikuken]

Yes, that was the case what the Tech Update should be. But maybe, just maybe, the plan was changed from the Team intern to include all Remasters they still needed to do, to get it done to move forward. It´s a possibility. Like I said, we don´t know exactly what Dark Cookie does for this game off stream. Maybe he really worked on doing the Remasters. It would be a good opportunity for Cookies Team to get the Remasters done alongside the tech update.

But like I said, it´s just a Theory by me, we see what it will be anyway. Either it´s really just the Widescreen or it will be really a more pollished up Update.

I agree, I think the Tech Update was too good a chance to not get done a lot of the smaller art and story re-works. DC's been doing art remasters of older girls on streams for years and he's still modifying their art nearly constantly. This is off his November 16 stream:
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Look at those "Date Modified" dates. When he went into the Jenny folder nearly every one of her files had modifications within the last month. Trying to move girls piecemeal onto the rig system at this point would break the game and possibly the fan base, so he probably figured that sneaking all the updated art into the Tech Update would kill two birds with one stone and be a nice little bonus for his patient Patreons. But DC's track record for estimating how long something will take is hot garbage, and at this point they're far too deep into the weeds to back out.

He's probably doing all that now cause he had the entire year thumbing his own ass with R(h)onda's stuff done early on. And/or to implement all the girls with the new rigging for wider screen. Doesn't mean we'll have 20+ girls with 2022 art style all at once, they still need to have something to do for their remakes

 

[srksrk 68]

SS combines the two things that guys take most seriously: porn and gaming.

And shitstorming.

 

[Joop501]

The fans don't care about the delays, they just care when a dev isn't sincere or give fake ass excuses. This isn't the case by any means. Good luck for future endeavours.

 

[randommal3]

Welp, I don't know what is happening but i ended up stuck with Mrs Johnson's Threesome choice and i can't progress on the other choices. I put different saves before i trigger the scene but for unknown reason All of the backup saves are Automatically Locked in that Route.
Hours of playing wasted
Also All of the Cookie Jar Scenes are Gone and i found a Bug when Dexter's Library Book is still in the Locker even though I've already collected it

 

[Joop501]

I don't want to come across as annoying, arrogant
But what the fuck are you doing with this game?
Just play it instead of looking for trouble! Succes