Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5003] [Kompas Productions]

[Sukme]

So, hoist up the John B sail...

Admit I had to look that one up...

 

[srksrk 68]

This is the worst game I've ever played

So maybe if you get 18 you have some more gaming experience. Hopefully.

 

[Oberoth]

I will only say one thing, I'm not a hater, I'm a fan of DarCookie and his work, I just want to know why someone can do something like that

 

[Senigata]

I will only say one thing, I'm not a hater, I'm a fan of DarCookie and his work, I just want to know why someone can do something like that
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And I'm legit wondering why people don't just go and play something else during the wait. This game can be hardly their only wank material, right?

Right?

 

[Username7]

Discord update, as an aside once this nightmare of rebuild is over I hope they keep Vole on he's made really short work of the routes he was given to repose and he talks in the Discord a lot.

 

[BabayMonsta]

And I'm legit wondering why people don't just go and play something else during the wait. This game can be hardly their only wank material, right?

Right?

I thinks people are just afraid that the dev is falling into the common trend of farming patreons and then sit back and let the money roll in. Im not saying cookie is doing that im just speaking out of experience.
Devs just go radio silent and after 8 months to a year release an update that at most required 2 months to make.
I dont think people who dont support the creator have a right to complain but for supporters something like that fells like a slap to the face, again speaking out of experience.
The longer the dev takes to update the game to higher the expectations get and if their not met people get disappointed even if the update is great.
Then the dev gives some excuse about mental health and family deaths and expects everyone to ignore the 60 buckeronies they paid for 5 hours of content.

 

[BabayMonsta]

I thinks people are just afraid that the dev is falling into the common trend of farming patreons and then sit back and let the money roll in. Im not saying cookie is doing that im just speaking out of experience.
Devs just go radio silent and after 8 months to a year release an update that at most required 2 months to make.
I dont think people who dont support the creator have a right to complain but for supporters something like that fells like a slap to the face, again speaking out of experience.
The longer the dev takes to update the game to higher the expectations get and if their not met people get disappointed even if the update is great.
Then the dev gives some excuse about mental health and family deaths and expects everyone to ignore the 60 buckeronies they paid for 5 hours of content.

To make it very clear im not making fun of mental health issues and family deaths but its literally the first 2 excuses chatgpt gives you for avoiding hate for being a lazy piece of shit

 

[TGafy]

I thinks people are just afraid that the dev is falling into the common trend of farming patreons and then sit back and let the money roll in. Im not saying cookie is doing that im just speaking out of experience.
Devs just go radio silent and after 8 months to a year release an update that at most required 2 months to make.
I dont think people who dont support the creator have a right to complain but for supporters something like that fells like a slap to the face, again speaking out of experience.
The longer the dev takes to update the game to higher the expectations get and if their not met people get disappointed even if the update is great.
Then the dev gives some excuse about mental health and family deaths and expects everyone to ignore the 60 buckeronies they paid for 5 hours of content.

To make it very clear im not making fun of mental health issues and family deaths but its literally the first 2 excuses chatgpt gives you for avoiding hate for being a lazy piece of shit

In DC's case, he hasn't gone radio silent. There's also updates coming from his team (the post above yours as an example).
As for those excuses, some use those excuses to avoid, it's true. At the same time, it's not like those events are outside the realm of possibilities. Who's gonna be the jackass and call them out on it. We don't know what the real identities are of these nsfw game devs so there's no way to check into it. At the end of the day, these are games. Move on and circle back later.

Edit: This is coming from a pirate's pov. As for those 'paying', no one's forcing these payments to continue. Just as they were free to donate and support, their just as free to unsub at any time.

 

[BabayMonsta]

In DC's case, he hasn't gone radio silent. There's also updates coming from his team (the post above yours as an example).
As for those excuses, some use those excuses to avoid, it's true. At the same time, it's not like those events are outside the realm of possibilities. Who's gonna be the jackass and call them out on it. We don't know what the real identities are of these nsfw game devs so there's no way to check into it. At the end of the day, these are games. Move on and circle back later.

Edit: This is coming from a pirate's pov. As for those 'paying', no one's forcing these payments to continue. Just as they were free to donate and support, their just as free to unsub at any time.

Yes no one is forcing them. But if no one supports them you would have nothing to pirate. and thats the problem. One bad apple and all that. Btw if you look at my screenshot i wrote exactly what you where saying about the excuses: Excuses no one would ask you to prove.

 

[j4yj4m]

To make it very clear im not making fun of mental health issues and family deaths but its literally the first 2 excuses chatgpt gives you for avoiding hate for being a lazy piece of shit

I mean, DC has never claimed meantal health issues and the only real "emergencies" I recall, where his wife giving birth and the the fact that he suddenly had his 3 small kids at home during covid, when everything was shut down.
Getting a cold from time to time (at an above average rate) is something that happens, when you've got kids that age. It's strange, that some poeple seem to think, that someone would work 6 years straight without taking a vacation or without ever having any issues at all. With that kind of expectation it's not really a surprise, that some devs are actually getting mental issues.

Managing your own expectations is crucial once you give money on patreon, but sadly that's something many people just aren't capable of. They suddenly start to act, like they are paying him 60k a month, when in reality the average patron spends about $2.50, while most will give $1. A full year of subscribing to DC costs less than 2 coffees at Starbucks...

 

[BabayMonsta]

I mean, DC has never claimed meantal health issues and the only real "emergencies" I recall, where his wife giving birth and the the fact that he suddenly had his 3 small kids at home during covid, when everything was shut down.
Getting a cold from time to time (at an above average rate) is something that happens, when you've got kids that age. It's strange, that some poeple seem to think, that someone would work 6 years straight without taking a vacation or without ever having any issues at all. With that kind of expectation it's not really a surprise, that some devs are actually getting mental issues.

Managing your own expectations is crucial once you give money on patreon, but sadly that's something many people just aren't capable of. They suddenly start to act, like they are paying him 60k a month, when in reality the average patron spends about $2.50, while most will give $1. A full year of subscribing to DC costs less than 2 coffees at Starbucks...

Nothing in my posts where directed at DC. Everything past my first sentence was me talking abouts other devs. I was just voicing the concerns some people have with devs who work to long on an update. some people just got burned one to many times. a goliath example for that would be ICSTOR.
As for your other point, true $12 isnt much at the end of the year, but wouldnt you have rather given them to someone who actually gives a fuck.
Im just saying that one giant of an apple spoilt the bunch and now everybody has trust issues. i for example started to support the devs once after every update after seing the quality for myself. true i dont get the benefits of seing the posts in the development phase but at this point i dont give a damn. and if everybody would have done that i can guarantee that all those 8-12 month long updates would be done in 2.
And again, im not talking about DC.

 

[Gzowl_LiP]

last update 6 months ago, dev is getting 50k a month without doing anything, why should he finish the game when some dumbfucks are filling his pockets

In other words, why would he finish the game, when he could just quit and go work on something else which almost guarantee, for the same skillset, would provide him with a much lower income and likely reduced autonomy?

 

[Ichii]

I mean, DC has never claimed meantal health issues and the only real "emergencies" I recall, where his wife giving birth and the the fact that he suddenly had his 3 small kids at home during covid, when everything was shut down.
Getting a cold from time to time (at an above average rate) is something that happens, when you've got kids that age. It's strange, that some poeple seem to think, that someone would work 6 years straight without taking a vacation or without ever having any issues at all. With that kind of expectation it's not really a surprise, that some devs are actually getting mental issues.

Managing your own expectations is crucial once you give money on patreon, but sadly that's something many people just aren't capable of. They suddenly start to act, like they are paying him 60k a month, when in reality the average patron spends about $2.50, while most will give $1. A full year of subscribing to DC costs less than 2 coffees at Starbucks...

When people side with lazy devs, it just rubs me the wrong way...
you do understand that if you just say "oh its just 12$ a year, why do you care" then there is no helping you.. If you have any clue about life in general you would know that bad behavior should not be rewarded ffs, the development started 2016.....its 2023 now.. for this amount of time you could have made at least 3 games...
and no this is not hating on DC for milking the shit out of this game, kudos to him he is doing something me and a lot of people would love to be able to do.. but for me the problem is that, as a user id like a product to be finished in a reasonable time. this and some other devs are taking the piss. this sort of game could be done in 2 years max, without any crunch time

Ill be honest id make it so that he only gets access to 50% of the cash until he finishes the game...

 

[Dragon59]

When people side with lazy devs, it just rubs me the wrong way...
you do understand that if you just say "oh its just 12$ a year, why do you care" then there is no helping you.. If you have any clue about life in general you would know that bad behavior should not be rewarded ffs, the development started 2016.....its 2023 now.. for this amount of time you could have made at least 3 games...
and no this is not hating on DC for milking the shit out of this game, kudos to him he is doing something me and a lot of people would love to be able to do.. but for me the problem is that, as a user id like a product to be finished in a reasonable time. this and some other devs are taking the piss. this sort of game could be done in 2 years max, without any crunch time

Ill be honest id make it so that he only gets access to 50% of the cash until he finishes the game...

You may have to talk to Jack Conte about that. Patreon was set up as a patronage website, a place for people to support artists in their endeavors. When you're a patron, you're not buying a product, you're supporting an artist.

If you want to start your own system that holds 50% of contributor money and all the record keeping and other paperwork that would entail, more power to you.

 

[Gzowl_LiP]

When people side with lazy devs, it just rubs me the wrong way...
you do understand that if you just say "oh its just 12$ a year, why do you care" then there is no helping you.. If you have any clue about life in general you would know that bad behavior should not be rewarded ffs, the development started 2016.....its 2023 now.. for this amount of time you could have made at least 3 games...

He could have made 3 average games. But then, what's even the point, if all his games one can expect to be in the same style? Just for the sake of a different title? The game already has a ton of content, and I don't see the point of developing something else when he can just keep expanding the same universe.

but for me the problem is that, as a user id like a product to be finished in a reasonable time. this and some other devs are taking the piss. this sort of game could be done in 2 years max, without any crunch time

What is your area of expertise to be able to declare, with such a degree of assurance, how long such a project is supposed to take?

Why do I get the distinct impression that you are, thoroughly and unashamedly, talking out of your ass?
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Although I'd obviously prefer more updates, I hope he just keeps adding content to this game, than start a new one any time soon.

 

[Senigata]

I thinks people are just afraid that the dev is falling into the common trend of farming patreons and then sit back and let the money roll in. Im not saying cookie is doing that im just speaking out of experience.
Devs just go radio silent and after 8 months to a year release an update that at most required 2 months to make.
I dont think people who dont support the creator have a right to complain but for supporters something like that fells like a slap to the face, again speaking out of experience.
The longer the dev takes to update the game to higher the expectations get and if their not met people get disappointed even if the update is great.
Then the dev gives some excuse about mental health and family deaths and expects everyone to ignore the 60 buckeronies they paid for 5 hours of content.

Here's the deal, there are barely any supporters here, yet the bitching has gone through the roof in these past few months. So clearly people who don't any stake in this bar the furious need to rub one out do think they have a right to complain. And to those I say: look for another game to fap to. This entire website is full of them.

Also don't most patrons pay like 5 buckeroos per month to support him? That's not exactly bankrupting anyone. Sure those that like 50 or 60 bucks might feel that way, but the average patron pays far less than they do for all the others bills that want for payment every month.

And I don't know about any mental health issues or whatever on DCs side. See, I don't have time to keep up with devs 24/7, and I'm legit suggesting some people here should try to work on that too. That might actually be good for their mental health, because at this point it feels like downright obsession.

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

Managing your own expectations is crucial once you give money on patreon, but sadly that's something many people just aren't capable of. They suddenly start to act, like they are paying him 60k a month, when in reality the average patron spends about $2.50, while most will give $1. A full year of subscribing to DC costs less than 2 coffees at Starbucks...

But I gave him less money than I made while I was in the bathroom at work, so he owes me 6 hours of new content per month!

 

[Bwana_Robert254]

Quick question: does the incest patch work with the current build? Its dated 2021.

 

[Username7]

Quick question: does the incest patch work with the current build? Its dated 2021.

Yeah it works the three characters it changes haven't gotten anything since its last update.

 

[srksrk 68]

When people side with lazy devs, it just rubs me the wrong way...
you do understand that if you just say "oh its just 12$ a year, why do you care" then there is no helping you.. If you have any clue about life in general you would know that bad behavior should not be rewarded ffs, the development started 2016.....its 2023 now.. for this amount of time you could have made at least 3 games...
and no this is not hating on DC for milking the shit out of this game, kudos to him he is doing something me and a lot of people would love to be able to do.. but for me the problem is that, as a user id like a product to be finished in a reasonable time. this and some other devs are taking the piss. this sort of game could be done in 2 years max, without any crunch time

Ill be honest id make it so that he only gets access to 50% of the cash until he finishes the game...

Reading posts like this I feel a strong urge to double my Patreon support for DC, just to piss some people off.

Yes, it's slow. No amount of moaning will change that. Especially not here. Deal with it.

Btw/ I hope the game is *never* finished. Seriously!