ImTransAndTiny

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I reaffirm my words when I say that the development of the game is dragging.
When I talk about "backgrounds", I refer to what we will have in the game, since until proven otherwise this update only brings additional locations
If that's what you've heard, no wonder you're so upset! Actually, it makes the game 16:9. That required redrawing almost every background, and reposing every scene in the game. If they had limited themselves to that, it would have been a big project. Unfortunately, they're also using the occasion to replace all of the old, non-layered images, and all of the old-style code with the new-style code. Adding a crapload of additional locations that no one asked for at the same time was downright foolhardy. This is an extremely ambitious update that should have been broken into separate code update, aspect ratio change, and new location updates. This is a prime example of Hofstadter's law, which states, "It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." You think it's going to take months, and then it takes years. That's why you shouldn't try do to this much in a single update. But they did, and there's nothing we can do about it. But MAN is it going to be a huge update. Those of us who mod the game are going to be busy for a VERY long time after it comes out.
 
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If that's what you've heard, no wonder you're so upset! Actually, it makes the game 16:9. That required redrawing almost every background, and reposing every scene in the game. If they had limited themselves to that, it would have been a big project. Unfortunately, they're also using the occasion to replace all of the old, non-layered images, and all of the old-style code with the new-style code. Adding a crapload of additional locations that no one asked for at the same time was downright foolhardy. This is an extremely ambitious update that should have been broken into separate code update, aspect ratio change, and new location updates. This is a prime example of Hofstadter's law, which states, "It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." You think it's going to take months, and then it takes years. That's why you shouldn't try do to this much in a single update. But they did, and there's nothing we can do about it. But MAN is it going to be a huge update. Those of us who mod the game are going to be busy for a VERY long time after it comes out.
the promise of tech update this not include it makes the game 16:9 (There is render to even support that). They keep adding thing on the line and on the way they develop. they could have just made another branch and keep adding content. Secondly it almost 2 year and the last update is almost 1 year. So if they have all image 100% then there is no reason to delay duel to they have hire more people to develop. I used to sub 20$ and they keep add thing on the line no output of the games, even in discord they only show drawing process new image but no footage of games play or time for release. Yet here you defend them for taking more than 1 mil in a year yet the near update so sad I could not tell that they are joking or not. When they take on Patreon, the games become a multiple investor game not a free games any more. They don't take account for what they doing. Now from 100k of donating they drop to 50k of donating. When it reach to few thousand maybe the game won't finish, the company will just close.
 

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the promise of tech update this not include it makes the game 16:9 (There is render to even support that). They keep adding thing on the line and on the way they develop. they could have just made another branch and keep adding content. Secondly it almost 2 year and the last update is almost 1 year. So if they have all image 100% then there is no reason to delay duel to they have hire more people to develop. I used to sub 20$ and they keep add thing on the line no output of the games, even in discord they only show drawing process new image but no footage of games play or time for release. Yet here you defend them for taking more than 1 mil in a year yet the near update so sad I could not tell that they are joking or not. When they take on Patreon, the games become a multiple investor game not a free games any more. They don't take account for what they doing. Now from 100k of donating they drop to 50k of donating. When it reach to few thousand maybe the game won't finish, the company will just close.
you just have to be ready for when it comes, I don't know how long I have but I'm always prepared, my wifi paid till 2099 wifi coffin.png
 

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do the Rhonda route exists now?
No. Still waiting on the tech update.
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this not include it makes the game 16:9
You're wrong. It does include it. The new art that is previewed is in the 16:9 format.
Here's the list of the original goals of the tech update.
So if they have all image 100% then there is no reason to delay duel to they have hire more people to develop.
DC doesn't want to hire more people to update the code. He wants one person to update and consolidate the code.
here you defend them
Not defending - simply stating the facts. People seem to confuse the two. Makes me wonder just what people have against facts...
no footage of games play or time for release
They never (or rarely?) have in the 7 years they've been officially developing this game and probably never will change what is done in discord or picarto.
When they take on Patreon, the games become a multiple investor game not a free games any more
That's not how Patreon works. If you think you are investing in a product on Patreon, you are the person who is mistaken. It's a tip jar for subscribers. Nothing more, nothing less. The only difference is if a developer is explicitly stating differently. Which DC doesn't do.

Also, yes, the game is free for anyone to play - and available on DC's website free for anyone to download. A person doesn't need to be a subscriber to download or play. Subscribers aren't tipping/donating for the game. Again, if they think they are - that's their problem, because they are wrong.
When it reach to few thousand maybe the game won't finish, the company will just close.
Maybe it will. Then won't you feel victorious?! That kind of logic in a comment full of whining that they want an update but then wishing subscriptions dry up so that maybe the developer will stop developing. If there ever was a perfect example of Aesop's fable of the "Fox and the Grapes"...

Bottom line is - you chose to donate $20 per month and you chose to stop. It was your choice on both counts. If you thought that $20 was buying something, you were wrong. If you thought that $20 was investing in something, you were wrong. If you thought that $20 was a tip to show how much you enjoyed playing the game, liked the artwork, or liked the story, or something -- nothing more than that -- then you were correct.
 

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No. Still waiting on the tech update.
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You're wrong. It does include it. The new art that is previewed is in the 16:9 format.
Here's the list of the original goals of the tech update.
DC doesn't want to hire more people to update the code. He wants one person to update and consolidate the code.

Not defending - simply stating the facts. People seem to confuse the two. Makes me wonder just what people have against facts...

They never (or rarely?) have in the 7 years they've been officially developing this game and probably never will change what is done in discord or picarto.

That's not how Patreon works. If you think you are investing in a product on Patreon, you are the person who is mistaken. It's a tip jar for subscribers. Nothing more, nothing less. The only difference is if a developer is explicitly stating differently. Which DC doesn't do.

Also, yes, the game is free for anyone to play - and available on DC's website free for anyone to download. A person doesn't need to be a subscriber to download or play. Subscribers aren't tipping/donating for the game. Again, if they think they are - that's their problem, because they are wrong.

Maybe it will. Then won't you feel victorious?! That kind of logic in a comment full of whining that they want an update but then wishing subscriptions dry up so that maybe the developer will stop developing. If there ever was a perfect example of Aesop's fable of the "Fox and the Grapes"...

Bottom line is - you chose to donate $20 per month and you chose to stop. It was your choice on both counts. If you thought that $20 was buying something, you were wrong. If you thought that $20 was investing in something, you were wrong. If you thought that $20 was a tip to show how much you enjoyed playing the game, liked the artwork, or liked the story, or something -- nothing more than that -- then you were correct.
The way people react is like this is the only game, people need to be prepared or have a cold one to chill, well ok maybe 2-3, yeah yeah all right 4-5...fck it get drunk enjoy life. Some of my games the rest on my games.png pc(in emergency receiving a heart transplant)
 

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The way people react is like this is the only game, people need to be prepared or have a cold one to chill, well ok maybe 2-3, yeah yeah all right 4-5...fck it get drunk enjoy life. Some of my games the rest on my View attachment 2632826 pc(in emergency receiving a heart transplant)
Brah stop with the "This is not the only game" BS argument. We know this is not the only game we don't spend all day starring at this forum. I check this game once a week myself. It takes only 1 minute to comment here you know.
 
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Now you really hurt my feelings, you know?

Btw/ I don't have to prove anything. What did you ever do for the game or for the community?
"Reading posts like this I feel a strong urge to double my Patreon support for DC, just to piss some people off."

"double my Patreon support for DC, just to piss some people off."

Glad you understood my point (y)
 
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The way people react is like this is the only game, people need to be prepared or have a cold one to chill, well ok maybe 2-3, yeah yeah all right 4-5...fck it get drunk enjoy life. Some of my games the rest on my View attachment 2632826 pc(in emergency receiving a heart transplant)
Dawn of War - very nice!

Corrupted Kingdom and What a Legend are both pretty good too
 
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"You are sick of waiting for the tech update?go play a game with even slower updates!"
can't hate on WaL even though their updates are slow because

a. they make much less money than summertime saga and are not able to just hire additional coders
b. they are transparent and give regular weekly updates so you actually know what they have been doing all week
c. art and story are consistently good and are not getting worse like in STS
d. the devs somehow don't get sick every other week even though they have children too. weird isn't it?
 
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"You are sick of waiting for the tech update?go play a game with even slower updates!"
I just said it's a good NSFW game lol.

Idek what is going on with that game, last time I checked one of the devs was working when he was supposed to be in bed rest from an injury. Also I think they're a 3 person team bringing in less than 10k$/month which makes it even more impressive. But yes the updates do take long, though it's kinda understandable.
 
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No. Still waiting on the tech update.
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You're wrong. It does include it. The new art that is previewed is in the 16:9 format.
Here's the list of the original goals of the tech update.
DC doesn't want to hire more people to update the code. He wants one person to update and consolidate the code.

Not defending - simply stating the facts. People seem to confuse the two. Makes me wonder just what people have against facts...

They never (or rarely?) have in the 7 years they've been officially developing this game and probably never will change what is done in discord or picarto.

That's not how Patreon works. If you think you are investing in a product on Patreon, you are the person who is mistaken. It's a tip jar for subscribers. Nothing more, nothing less. The only difference is if a developer is explicitly stating differently. Which DC doesn't do.

Also, yes, the game is free for anyone to play - and available on DC's website free for anyone to download. A person doesn't need to be a subscriber to download or play. Subscribers aren't tipping/donating for the game. Again, if they think they are - that's their problem, because they are wrong.

Maybe it will. Then won't you feel victorious?! That kind of logic in a comment full of whining that they want an update but then wishing subscriptions dry up so that maybe the developer will stop developing. If there ever was a perfect example of Aesop's fable of the "Fox and the Grapes"...

Bottom line is - you chose to donate $20 per month and you chose to stop. It was your choice on both counts. If you thought that $20 was buying something, you were wrong. If you thought that $20 was investing in something, you were wrong. If you thought that $20 was a tip to show how much you enjoyed playing the game, liked the artwork, or liked the story, or something -- nothing more than that -- then you were correct.
it's were you who post the origin list when we were asking too much. You were the one who post this in the need end of 2022.
I remember that time is near 1 year of asking when the tech update finish and many start to asking question. You actively communicate with other having problem in this page.

"Also, yes, the game is free for anyone to play - and available on DC's website free for anyone to download. A person doesn't need to be a subscriber to download or play. Subscribers aren't tipping/donating for the game. Again, if they think they are - that's their problem, because they are wrong." => if they are free they should not asking for donation that what I mean. Every one seem to assume that when they take donations is that other giving them for charity. They release few version to get fund and when they get fund they start this. We those who support them giving them a money bigger than any games company put to those games like this or other developer that create games like this. They need funding to made they live better and they get it's.
"Bottom line is - you chose to donate $20 per month and you chose to stop. It was your choice on both counts. If you thought that $20 was buying something, you were wrong. If you thought that $20 was investing in something, you were wrong. If you thought that $20 was a tip to show how much you enjoyed playing the game, liked the artwork, or liked the story, or something -- nothing more than that -- then you were correct." => Yes, it was my choice but not base on free or charity. It were the dev of this games begging to other donate for them to made this game as full job. Secondly, we being promise for every post that he post in the patreon and discord about new content. So you could lie to your self we donate is not an investment all you want and compare with tip. But tip only paid one with no promise of future content and development, yet and it is income of a lot of people respect it. Third Patreon is not a tip place, it a place for other to getting fund by other. Tell me what kind of people getting fund from other and could not deliver they promise entire 2 year. Subscribers aren't tipping/donating for the game duel to they are funding it. Respect those Subscribers.
When you begging other for money you have no right to made like they giving you out charity or even out of enjoyment.
 
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ImTransAndTiny

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it's were you who post the origin list when we were asking too much. You were the one who post this in the need end of 2022.
I remember that time is near 1 year of asking when the tech update finish and many start to asking question. You actively communicate with other having problem in this page.

"Also, yes, the game is free for anyone to play - and available on DC's website free for anyone to download. A person doesn't need to be a subscriber to download or play. Subscribers aren't tipping/donating for the game. Again, if they think they are - that's their problem, because they are wrong." => if they are free they should not asking for donation that what I mean. Every one seem to assume that when they take donations is that other giving them for charity. They release few version to get fund and when they get fund they start this. We those who support them giving them a money bigger than any games company put to those games like this or other developer that create games like this. They need funding to made they live better and they get it's.
"Bottom line is - you chose to donate $20 per month and you chose to stop. It was your choice on both counts. If you thought that $20 was buying something, you were wrong. If you thought that $20 was investing in something, you were wrong. If you thought that $20 was a tip to show how much you enjoyed playing the game, liked the artwork, or liked the story, or something -- nothing more than that -- then you were correct." => Yes, it was my choice but not base on free or charity. It were the dev of this games begging to other donate for them to made this game as full job. Secondly, we being promise for every post that he post in the patreon and discord about new content. So you could lie to your self we donate is not an investment all you want and compare with tip. But tip only paid one with no promise of future content and development, yet and it is income of a lot of people respect it. Third Patreon is not a tip place, it a place for other to getting fund by other. Tell me what kind of people getting fund from other and could not deliver they promise entire 2 year. Subscribers aren't tipping/donating for the game duel to they are funding it. Respect those Subscribers.
When you begging other for money you have no right to made like they giving you out charity or even out of enjoyment.
I highly recommend that you write your messages in your native language and have Google Translate convert it to English for you.
 
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