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But two sisters having sex to a guy not related, isn't incest.
Patreon doesn't care. As long as it looks like family, it's against their rules. They didn't allow stepsiblings to unban games, either.

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SubscribeStar is more open for the moment only because they have a fraction of the audience of Patreon. Patreon were fine and dandy with taboo content until they got big enough to start needing/attracting investors. It was never formally announced, but with a bit of digging you can find information on Patreon's ; I doubt it's a coincidence that their crackdown on taboo content (early 2018) started about the time they began attracting bigger names and higher amounts.

Venture capital is famously allergic to porn because it presents additional risks from government agencies, family values groups, and any conservative politicians who feel like whipping up the base by going on a crusade. Witness what happened to , or the several US states that just instituted official age verification for visiting adult sites. It's why even OnlyFans tried to remove the porn despite it being nearly their entire market; they're one of the 100 largest sites on the planet by traffic, yet they can't so much as with their rep.

So long as SubscribeStar stays small they'll stay free, but once they need money they'll turn like the rest.
Just to add, as far as I'm aware payment processors (mainly Paypal and Stripe) played a huge role. So any platform that wants to ulitize paypal will have to adhere to similar standards as does Patreon now. Hence Subscribestar doesn't offer paypal at all and it's also the reason why for example Onlyfans doesn't offer Paypal payments.

So Patreon basically had the choice to stop using Paypal or to ban incest, underage content, etc. - they chose the latter. Probably for good reason, as they definitely cater to a more casual audience in general.
 
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What wrong?
People desire new content to masturbate to but the development team hasn't released an update since October 2022. It is still months away from any expected update release. It could be Spring 2024 or later until there is one. Some people are angry, sad, confused, in various stages of grief. They attempt to obfuscate that it is strictly because of their own desires by cloaking it under the guise that they are "thinking of the poor, abused subscribers" and through accusations of the developer grifting.
 

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Just to add, as far as I'm aware payment processors (mainly Paypal and Stripe) played a huge role. So any platform that wants to ulitize paypal will have to adhere to similar standards as does Patreon now. Hence Subscribestar doesn't offer paypal at all and it's also the reason why for example Onlyfans doesn't offer Paypal payments.

So Patreon basically had the choice to stop using Paypal or to ban incest, underage content, etc. - they chose the latter. Probably for good reason, as they definitely cater to a more casual audience in general.
I still find it strange that Paypal and Stripe have issues with adult content but Visa and Mastercard don't. Paypal has a (they'll let you buy physical content like sex toys in the US, but you can't encourage people to use it) out of an apparent fear of being caught making payments to human traffickers, so I suspect it may be down to however the company is structured to deal with banks across multiple countries and currencies. Maybe Visa is just big enough that they don't give a fuck :ROFLMAO:
 

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Is that a possible loophole I hear?
It's not a loophole. I was attempting to head off an "Acktually" or "To be fair" response from someone wishing to be pedantic so that I wouldn't have to clarify with a follow up post.

It's a contextual acknowledgement from their own lips... er, .
We understand that some topics on this list such as incest or rape are a little bit more complicated because these situations are, unfortunately, part of real life. As a result, when reviewing these types of creations, the Trust and Safety team will take into consideration context including personal, historical or educational narrative. For example, survivor stories or fiction such as Lolita are allowed on Patreon.
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I would make the assumption the simple idea of these being adult video games and adult visual novels of which the genres would make any consideration for "context" quite unlikely. The likelihood of an adult game creator exploring incest context which might pass muster for Patreon is also just as unlikely... that is if they want the crowd we usually find visiting F95.
 
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People desire new content to masturbate to but the development team hasn't released an update since October 2022. It is still months away from any expected update release. It could be Spring 2024 or later until there is one. Some people are angry, sad, confused, in various stages of grief. They attempt to obfuscate that it is strictly because of their own desires by cloaking it under the guise that they are "thinking of the poor, abused subscribers" and through accusations of the developer grifting.
You know is bad when even this guy is saying the tech update is coming on 2025.
 

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You know is bad when even this guy is saying the tech update is coming on 2025.
Been saying that for a bit of time. As far back as last November, I was saying Judith update would be 2024 at the earliest, while acknowledging someone saying 2025 (they were joking about how long it was taking - I was serious).
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Been saying that for a bit of time. As far back as last November, I was saying Judith update would be 2024 at the earliest, while acknowledging someone saying 2025 (they were joking about how long it was taking - I was serious).
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Personally, I'd laugh if she got an Eve level redesign that makes her almost unrecognizable.
 

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Odette and Eve are not siblings, but DC in an stream was asked about this and he said that is not going to happen.
I really dont care about Odette but if DC really never intended to follow up on that(or Grace post-release for that matter)then he shouldnt have kept dropping narrative hints/constantly teased it.
There is a frigging "will think about a Eve threesome" dialogue option ffs.

Is that a possible loophole I hear?
For themselves and only themselves,yes.
Its really simple actually.
Some incredibly well known franchises have those themes,wouldnt want to completely obstruct the possibllity of making some money from that.
 
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I really dont care about Odette but if DC really never intended to follow up on that(or Grace post-release for that matter)then he shouldnt have kept dropping narrative hints/constantly teased it.
There is a frigging "will think about a Eve threesome" dialogue option ffs.
The whole Odette and Grace feels tacked on anyway. You got an entire part of Eve's plot about how Odette actually has feelings for Grace and you work on hooking them up, only for Odette to do a 180 after we finish Eve's story and get down and dirty with the MC again and pulls her apparent girlfriend into it. That part feels like the height of "have to add this or those who have the mighty need to fuck everyone will get upset". I'll never understand people who actually get mad about there being side couples in games that are off limits.
 

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Personally, I'd laugh if she got an Eve level redesign that makes her almost unrecognizable.
Eve had a redesign?

I really dont care about Odette but if DC really never intended to follow up on that(or Grace post-release for that matter)then he shouldnt have kept dropping narrative hints/constantly teased it.
There is a frigging "will think about a Eve threesome" dialogue option ffs.
Also Odette shoves her tongue down Eve's throat at one point lol

The whole Odette and Grace feels tacked on anyway. You got an entire part of Eve's plot about how Odette actually has feelings for Grace and you work on hooking them up, only for Odette to do a 180 after we finish Eve's story and get down and dirty with the MC again and pulls her apparent girlfriend into it. That part feels like the height of "have to add this or those who have the mighty need to fuck everyone will get upset". I'll never understand people who actually get mad about there being side couples in games that are off limits.
Not necessarily a 180, that's just the 2 of them being in an open relationship. I really liked the MC/Grace bits at least.
 
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Eve had a redesign?
Yup a pretty significant one too.


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Not necessarily a 180, that's just the 2 of them being in an open relationship. I really liked the MC/Grace bits at least.
My point still stands that it feels absolutely tacked on. In fact, if the routes would just focus on the girls in question and not involve a variety of side girls that the MC absolutely has to fuck too, we might actually be further along in the main girls department because it'll have cut down on content bloat.
 
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