Count Morado

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So, how does that square with the list that was posted for the items to come?

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Well, seeing as how the one in v21.0.0-wip.4468 did not include updating the Judith scenes already in the game, but we got them in wip.5003 - I think the list is a "guide" but not necessarily set in stone. That wip.4468 list has 3 items highlighted as possibly next - only one (partially) came through plus the Judith artwork redraw.
Also, you'll notice in wip.4468, neither the "New UI" or the "New X-RAY" were included in the list, but for wip.5003 they were. They get done what they get done.

My hunch: the focus on Debbie in the recent streams is the fall back for not getting a lot done on New UI, X-RAY, minigames, stats. Take a look what he's been working on in public streams:
That's not all the work he's doing - but that's all the public work. The coding for the minigames, stats, and the New UI are all on StrayError, which is not streaming content, so we don't know how that is going, necessarily. Same with the "New X-Ray" - I would guess that the artwork is done for that, it's the coding into the the tech update that is being worked on.

So, from a content standpoint - yes, I would only expect what new Debbie artwork there may be (plus possible pregnancy content either this or next update around the end of November) - otherwise it will mostly be coding (bug fixes, maybe a little progress on minigame/stats/UI/X-Ray stuff). But I wouldn't make any bets on it.
 
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Really now?? Don't go this route dude. DC isn't creating a AAA type of game. The development time for this one was almost / already 8 years. He's making a VN type H game. It is basically point and click when it comes to gameplay. I know he animates his stuff since it is hand drawn, but the assets are already there. Why not just make the "tech update" in just one big drop, then add his new ideas. Or why not just make a new game for his new ideas (like what I have mentioned in my previous comment). He could garner more "hype" with that, in my own opinion.

I'm just being honest with my opinion on what the state of the "development" (if there is) of the game. I would have supported his patreon if he have completed this one and created another project. You really have to make a serious justification (for the content provided) for all of his patreon supporters that donated for years just to make his game a reality.

I just don't want to label DC as "milking" his supporters. But at the rate of what's going on with this game? Damn, it's just sad and disappointing as I want him to succeed in his endeavors too.
What are you even talking about??? I'm not defending this game or it's developer. I'm just saying your comparison to winter memories is totaly wrong and announces are made when devs have something going on already...
 
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What are you even talking about??? I'm not defending this game or it's developer. I'm just saying your comparison to winter memories is totaly wrong and announces are made when devs have something going on already...

Well, if that is what you meant its ok with me. But the point of my comparison is the timeline that both Devs provided.

We have a dev that completes his project (even though with slight delays), and the other one just keeps on stretching out the timeline with no concrete end in sight (or if it will ever end) .

I am not here to argue anyways. Hope you always have a wonderful day.
 
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Well, if that is what you meant its ok with me. But the point of my comparison is the timeline that both Devs provided.

We have a dev that completes his project (even though with slight delays), and the other one just keeps on stretching out the timeline with no concrete end in sight (or if it will ever end) .

I am not here to argue anyways. Hope you always have a wonderful day.
It's all good, keep shitting on DC it's the right thing to do. I didn't try to argue with that.
Kinda like how Violated Heroine always just never truly progressed.
But vh was always a non-commercial work by random people on the internet. There is also vh discord and some guys are still working on mv remake, but yeah it takes ages...
 
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imagine this guy realizing he can employ people to help him and earn more because people might support him for pushing out content.
People are actually supporting him he is getting paid last time I remember he had patreon and over 15 thousand people paying there the least amount of sub payment is roughly 6 or 5 dollars(don't remember well this was 2 or 1 year ago) and each month they are paying so he is rich at this point that's why he is milking this...
 
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People are actually supporting him he is getting paid last time I remember he had patreon and over 15 thousand people paying there the least amount of sub payment is roughly 6 or 5 dollars(don't remember well this was 2 or 1 year ago) and each month they are paying so he is rich at this point that's why he is milking this...
he has currently 30.038 subs on Patreon but there is 1$ option which i believe 95% of his subs use. It's still an insane income to get roughly 30k a month just by half-heartedly pushing erotic artwork out there that hasn't changed for years.
 

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But vh was always a non-commercial work by random people on the internet. There is also vh discord and some guys are still working on mv remake, but yeah it takes ages...
I mean by the strictest definition STS is also 'non-commercial' since every dime DC gets are donations. He isn't selling the game after all. So let's say the VH remake people start accepting donations to help them support to make said remake, but the game will still be free, then they wouldn't really be any different.
 
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I mean by the strictest definition STS is also 'non-commercial' since every dime DC gets are donations. He isn't selling the game after all. So let's say the VH remake people start accepting donations to help them support to make said remake, but the game will still be free, then they wouldn't really be any different.
if people would have stopped donating, he would have abandoned the game already. This is his income now. He doesnt work. This is his work. So on one side he probably is scared to finish the game because he fears that his source of income might stop in the future.
But somehow he is fine with a disgruntled fanbase that just throws him a dollar a piece and then slow-releases a "game cleanup" instead of new content.
By the pace he is going right now, he finishes that "clean up" by 2026....only the cleanup. and you can cry all you want, because he earns +30k$ a month doing so. Why people are supporting this, is crazy. NLT gaming is actually pushing out their 4th game already. This guy is working on the same game since 2016.
 

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you can cry all you want
Senigata isn't the one crying. Some of the people on a porn pirate site who can't get their jollies fast enough from seeing new lewds of the waifus are.

Comparing different developers with different visions and different operations and different business models is like comparing Nike to Coca Cola. It's in Nike's best interest to churn out new styles every year. Whereas it's in Coca Cola's to "always" make sure their signature flavor continues, "always" - while adding subtle differences along the way.

Again, it's a free game - not just to the 'pirates' here, but to everyone directly from the developer. People can go find a plethora of other things to play and just check in every year or so to see what's going on here, if they want. To expect something more, something different, from this developer after 8 years of knowing this is how this developer works is simply unreasonable.
 
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