People surprised that people waiting so long for a shit update are voicing their opinions on a forum? lol
Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]
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- May 16, 2017
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I really wish the moderator would start a section for BITCHING so we can get back to questions about how to play the game
The wiki holds your hand on how to play the game, don't need people asking the same questions where to find so and so 1,000 times
- Jun 19, 2017
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I guess the Eve update will show if he can repeat something similar. I mean, I get that he's got a little less time by now due to his two small kids, but I still hope that it'll feel a little better given that there won't be any old content involved. Don't get me wrong, I quite liked Diane and what I've played for Jenny so far but since so much was known before, it still wasn't as much of a surprise.
About that discussion, I think I can collaborate since I've been using Renpy for a little over 1 year.
I don't follow the Summertime Saga so closely and I've never seen the game code, but I know that the developer seems to have a lot of difficulty applying certain things in the game and features that are guaranteed by default in Renpy, like support for old saves, don't work in their game.
I believe there are two possible explanations for the problems they face with the engine:
1. At the beginning of the game's production, they understood that Renpy only supports linear Visual Novels and decided that they would need to use more advanced Python functions if they wanted to create the game that they envisioned. They then created some basic functions and built the whole game on top of them.
2. they consider the limitations of Renpy for minigames as a determining factor
If Case 1 happened, then I believe that the developers were wrong when they evaluated the possibilities of the engine initially. Renpy supports a game with the same Summertime Saga features only with the basic functions of the program. This includes: open world concept, characters available in several different locations at different times, non-linear stories, repeatable events, dating sim elements, etc. I guarantee 100% that it is possible to recreate all important parts of the Summertime Saga without using a single Python line. The only difference is that the code would be less optimized and developers would probably spend more time to apply certain things in the game.
What probably happens, in my opinion, is that programmers have tried to reinvent the wheel and have made the engine less able to support a game like Summertime Saga than Renpy is originally. It is not normal for a game like Summertime Saga to have 200 bugs with each update. Even less normal is the new content breaking old content. This demonstrates that the code is a total mess and most likely harder to work than a pure Renpy code (which would be enough to recreate almost the entire game).
The second case is related to minigames. In fact, some of the minigames apparently "expand" the engine's possibilities. But then a more critical assessment is needed. Does it make sense to spend time and effort on minigames? I may be wrong, but I would say that 99.9% of players are more interested in the relationship with Roxxy or the Mom (I forgot her name) than collecting dick-shaped vegetables in the garden
.This ain't the walkthrough section my friend.
- May 16, 2017
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I liked Jenny's update as well (OK, Diane's not so much), but like you said it doesn't feel as good as really new content. I would liken it to watching a movie you've seen before but now it's a remastered rerelease with some new scenes thrown in. You may still like the new look but it is all familiar and there is little chance of really "wow"ing you.
The teacher and Roxxy updates were more memorable to me, although the arcs of Debbie, Diane and Jenny are similarly complex (just with different characters and personalities). The problem really seems to be that we didn't get the finished story from start to finish but first a rough outline and later some refining.
I'm really glad the next two updates will be completely new content and until then I will continue my support for him.
No, but it's the main thread for discussion and information regarding the game, and currently that is being buried behind hundreds of pages of pointless bickering. I posted a fix for a bug that was being reported by a lot of people a little while back and it got swept by the "NO U" spam in like 15 seconds.
You wanna bump your heads in a circular arguement just use the fucking PM feature, it's there for a reason.
- Dec 8, 2017
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Thank you for such a well written view on the engine itself. I appreciate this a lot as it helps understand things as a whole. I don't know why SS has as many issues as it does and I do hope they figure out why it's so troublesome.About that discussion, I think I can collaborate since I've been using Renpy for a little over 1 year.
I don't follow the Summertime Saga so closely and I've never seen the game code, but I know that the developer seems to have a lot of difficulty applying certain things in the game and features that are guaranteed by default in Renpy, like support for old saves, don't work in their game.
I believe there are two possible explanations for the problems they face with the engine:
1. At the beginning of the game's production, they understood that Renpy only supports linear Visual Novels and decided that they would need to use more advanced Python functions if they wanted to create the game that they envisioned. They then created some basic functions and built the whole game on top of them.
2. they consider the limitations of Renpy for minigames as a determining factor
If Case 1 happened, then I believe that the developers were wrong when they evaluated the possibilities of the engine initially. Renpy supports a game with the same Summertime Saga features only with the basic functions of the program. This includes: open world concept, characters available in several different locations at different times, non-linear stories, repeatable events, dating sim elements, etc. I guarantee 100% that it is possible to recreate all important parts of the Summertime Saga without using a single Python line. The only difference is that the code would be less optimized and developers would probably spend more time to apply certain things in the game.
What probably happens, in my opinion, is that programmers have tried to reinvent the wheel and have made the engine less able to support a game like Summertime Saga than Renpy is originally. It is not normal for a game like Summertime Saga to have 200 bugs with each update. Even less normal is the new content breaking old content. This demonstrates that the code is a total mess and most likely harder to work than a pure Renpy code (which would be enough to recreate almost the entire game).
The second case is related to minigames. In fact, some of the minigames apparently "expand" the engine's possibilities. But then a more critical assessment is needed. Does it make sense to spend time and effort on minigames? I may be wrong, but I would say that 99.9% of players are more interested in the relationship with Roxxy or the Mom (I forgot her name) than collecting dick-shaped vegetables in the garden
Does Ren'py have multiple versions? Is it possible that they're using an older, more archaic version than newer ones with newer features? Like Ren'py V1 that's very basic while the newest is Ren'py V7 with a lot of built in features for example?
- Dec 8, 2017
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First post specifically says not to ask for Walkthrough help here. Go to the walkthrough thread instead.
You must be registered to see the links
Don't waste your time.
I have some bug... Im doing Mia and Helen event. Now i need buy whip for sister Angielica and i cant -.-. someone have same problem ?
If this has already been posted and I got lost in the last couple of pages, I'm sorry.
But is anyone else having trouble delivering pizzas in the new update? I deliver the pizzas and get paid by Tony, but the money does not show up in my total. It stays the same.
Also, Jenny's pregnancy does not seem to be progressing. Is that as far as the content this update?
But is anyone else having trouble delivering pizzas in the new update? I deliver the pizzas and get paid by Tony, but the money does not show up in my total. It stays the same.
Also, Jenny's pregnancy does not seem to be progressing. Is that as far as the content this update?
Could you kindly point out to me where in the blazes did i say that the thread should be used for walkthrough questions? Straw man fallacy much?
It's perfectly fine to discuss every single point being debated here because that's one of the reason this threads exists, but this is a perfect example of how infuriatlingly often it devolves into petty personal arguements that do little else than clutter the place. Trying to find any relevant piece of information here is like looking for a needle on a haystack.
- Apr 10, 2017
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- May 22, 2018
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im having the same issue with the money anyone know a way around this or do i need to restart?
- Nov 6, 2017
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18.0 has a few bugs, and since I stopped being a patreon I cannot post them to My Kompas site. So far, the game is somehow missing, the night scene of the treehouse location, and this just happened:missing, coin1, so essentially MC cannot work the odd jobs for money
