- Sep 17, 2018
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I would say that haters just keep repeating the same things over and over even it will not change a bit. I wonder: does that make them feel better?
Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]
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- Jun 29, 2018
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Hard pass, I prefer my dairy girls to be free-range.
- Oct 30, 2017
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This is not true.
The good combinaison, instead of Shift-S, is ALT-S.
This will work, if you want to take a screenshot. It will been saved the same as other Ren'py games.
- Jun 1, 2018
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yeah, me and a few others are stuck here too, the only real fix is to wait for and update that officially fixes the bug and restart the game over and over as always and forever............
- Jul 22, 2017
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There's the difference. I think he could be more efficient if there was more structure. He doesn't need to have a long dev time for an update. Big updates can easily be broken apart by setting milestones and the community will not be as upset if he's clear with what's going on. His current model will eventually lead to him only making 1-2 updates per year and you're right, that's not good. DC is the sole artist, and will eventually become the bottleneck of the process no matter how many people he has on staff. Despite that, I don't think his art is the hindrance to the process, I think the plan itself is flawed. The dating system alone is going to require a rework for each character if he goes by his current model.
To be succinct, its not the size of the updates that's concerning, its how he's using them.
- May 16, 2017
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I'll reiterate what I said a couple weeks ago.... until he completes revamping old characters to the new modeling system (rig?), each update is going to feel thin. It's like renovating an old house, where 80% of your resources will be devoted to things you won't see once the drywall is up. Buyers come in and see 'builder basic' finishes and think 'meh', but have no visibility to the $25,000 in brand new electrical and $15,000 in new plumbing, etc.
As to all the bugs and errors that people complain about, I don't know what to say. I've never once encountered a bug that roadblocked playthrough.
As to all the bugs and errors that people complain about, I don't know what to say. I've never once encountered a bug that roadblocked playthrough.
Could you give the man a chance? Throw a dog a bone? Sorry i'm probally being offensive again.
- Jun 19, 2017
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Well, DC beeing the solo artist is the ultimate bottleneck for more than a year now. He's doing nothing but drawing and all the stuff his team codes, poses, writes, animates etc. doesn't influence the time the game as a whole needs to be made. So I don't really see how there can be gains in efficiency when it comes to the total amount of content at this very moment, now that the route is clear. So reworks aren't bad at all, what's bad are reworks which require old art to be removed and that shouldn't happen with any "new story" i.e. Roxxy, Diane, Jenny, and everybody who is to come. Edit: If it does happen I'd agree and they made a big mistake in the process, but I seriously doubt it will.
That said, I'd say one has to exclude the first year when it wasn't clear what the game was to become. They now have to correct the mistakes and decisions they made back then. So yes, the art which was made before they switched to the rig-system etc. (basically before 0.15) is to a degree lost, which is highly inefficient. But DC started making SS to teach himself working with renpy/coding, so one can hardly blame him for not having the vision, that he'd hire 5 people and produce a game which would last 4 years or more.
- Jul 22, 2017
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Hmm. Ok. It denies nothing. In reality, SS is also a demo. There isn't a complete version of this game yet.
SC does have a larger budget, team, ect.. but SS and SC have a strikingly similar development story. Which is the point and the context in which he used to compare them. The details of each game will of course be different when you scrutinize them. SC lost coders too, it also has reworked and changed engines to suit its needs. However, looking at the big picture, you see 2 crowd funded games with passionate directors, without a complete version after years of development and superfluous content, despite the large amount of money they make. "Missing the forest for the trees."
- Jul 22, 2017
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Of course. Its clear that DC didn't expect the game to grow to what it is. Hell no one did. I don't blame him for that. I think that now that he has a team, he hasn't truly sat down to go over what the core of the game is or truly change his model of updates. The reworks are the height of this inefficiency and a clear lack of structure. While he changed the stories and what not of characters, he still hasn't implemented key systems. These reworks would have been a perfect time to test the dating system, or decide on how the main story will operate before there are too many moving parts to manage. The core of the game is still empty, and will inevitably require another rework of characters once these features are introduced.
how could i finish diane quest?
i can't finish on this quest "diane want to explain how to increase milk production"
i can't finish on this quest "diane want to explain how to increase milk production"
This is completely false. DC does have an overall structure and plan for the game, hell thats what the roadmap is for. Also the reworks are necessary since they have update the art and code. The only reason Jenny and Diane were rework in the first place because their code was interfering when the new content.
- May 4, 2018
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reworks are being done cause its an excuse to not do an coding update cause i would be drop of money if it was an code update and its a lie when its sayed that diane and jenny codes were interfering if it was more stuff would have been needed to rework, DC have structure but its not being managed very well. he has plans for the game that is true but its all based on patreons cause he knows if he does something that patreons dont like they leave like children how many very good ideias were put on the table and patreons denied it and DC cant do much cause the money will drop.
- Jun 20, 2018
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if you like to share your women,choose have threesome with your bestfriend,if you like to keep her yourself,find Eric a girlfriend and she is all yours..