Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]

[Rickster82]

Guys, let DC develop the game in peace. Only the patient is rewarded. There will be a maximum of 3-4 updates per year, more seems impossible.

 

[j4yj4m]

I'd bet all the money in the world that he'd pick up the pace if his patreon numbers started dropping. I mean, I feel like the majority of the content came in the initial updates when he was (presumably) earning much less and has slowed down the more support he's had.

I'd disagree here. Overall, his "speed" basically stayed the same. The early content was really rushed compared to what we've got now. The quality was bad, the sex scenes were 2 frame animations, the writing was really basic, the quests were bloated and consisted mostly of "earn money -> buy stuff -> repeat", there was no pregnancy, etc. - it was indeed a different game. Of course he could return to those basics and increase the "output" greatly, but one really, really has to remember that the game started to grow this much once he started caring about quality.

I'd indeed expect that his support will fall at some point, but I'm somewhat sure it'll be enough to finish the game.

Edit: Changed a few words.

 

[srksrk 68]

I know it's probably coming across like I'm shit stirring and maybe I am a little, but I'm only poking fun really. I have my opinions on the devs of the majority of the games here, which extend to 'DC' also, but I'm sure he's a nice dude and it's great he has a supportive community.

I do STRONGLY disagree that it doesn't matter how much money he's making, because that's the motivation for him to be doing this and it allows him to keep it as his full-time job. It's in his interest to draw this out as long as possible (within reason to keep his supporters happy). Why bust a gut, when he can earn just as much taking his time?

I'd bet all the money in the world that he'd pick up the pace if his patreon numbers started dropping. I mean, I feel like the majority of the content came in the initial updates when he was (presumably) earning much less and has slowed down the more support he's had.

I just wish the community would hold devs to a higher standard when they start taking the piss, which (IMO) DC is doing. $60k p/month just doesn't stack up with the amount of content he's putting out, but there ya go - fair play to him honestly. I'm not gonna sway the masses.

I grow tired reading all that over and over again. It's not DC's fault that people like his game so much they are throwing all that money at him. And that does not make him their slave nor does it force him to work harder the more they like his game.

I posted numerous times that, while quality of each update (Diane maybe an exception, being comparably poor story and content wise) increases steadily, the time between updates has been more or less constant. Here, for you, again, what I posted earlier:

0.20.0: finished 49% as of January 6th 2020 (main story) -> estimation: end of March 2020
0.19.5: December 20th 2019 (Consuela) -> 2 months
0.19.1: October 19th 2019 (Eve) -> 4.5 months
0.18.5: June 4th 2019 (Jenny 2) -> 1 month
0.18.0: May 2nd 2019 (Jenny) -> 4.5 months
0.17.5: Dec 16th 2018 (Daisy) -> 1- month
0.17.0: Nov 23rd 2018 (Diane) -> 4 months
0.16.0: July 25th 2018 (Roxxy) -> 3+ months
0.15.1: April 15th 2018 (teachers) -> 4 months
0.14.5: December 19th 2017 (Debbie) -> 1.5 months
0.14.3: November 1st 2017 (Aqua) -> 0.5 months
0.14: October 13th 2017 (Mia) -> 2- months
0.13: August 21st 2017 (Erik)

Now we have Corona and DC being not well, and 12 days still left in March to do the remaining 17%. I don't think he will make it in that time. If we all die now, it will not be because the game is a month late...

 

[bendover15]

I mean yeh, like I said, I'm not going to sway the masses and I don't blame DC; I'd be doing the exact same thing in his shoes.

As someone who wants content though, I'm just disappointed at how slow it's moving. In terms of those releases, from 0.13 to 0.19.5, that's in no way over two years worth of someone working full-time IMO.

When the full game drops in ~2024 (I doubt it'll even be then) and someone new plays it through from start to finish, I don't think they'll feel like it was 7 years in development with $4million+ of contributions.

Like you've said though, it's not his fault people throw money at him and like I've said, his average patreon supporter would probably just write him a blank check. He's probably reading this thread right now having a good laugh, while drafting up his next patreon post about how his dog ate v0.2 so he has to start again.

 

[BuddyNemo68]

I honestly don't get the appeal for her in this thread. She isn't a very interesting character and imo, she isn't very good looking (I know this is completely subjective). Usually, if someone isn't physically very appealing it's easy to get over that if they are interesting but she's kind of meh. She's not naive about sex or anything and jumps right into fooling around so she doesn't cover that fetish (Mia is better for that). She's not spunky outcast so that's not an advantage (Eve's the go to for that). She's not a hot trashy character (Roxxy has that edge). I'm not trying to insult anyone who likes her, I'm just curious about what people like about her.

Well, I guess the appeal, for me, is that when you play straight through, she is the first girl you see nude and the first girl you get to do anything with -- so it just seems natural that she would progress further and quicker than some of the other ladies, but she doesn't. She hasn't changed at all. We only know, for instance, that Beth is her mother because DC told us so. Poor Judith didn't even get any real character growth in the Mia update, and Mia is suppose to be friends with her. So I keep voting for her just to get the story to go somewhere.

 

[Oriandu]

Annie update will be the 0.22.

I'll believe that when it happens. So long as there are patreon votes the content of updates could change drastically.

 

[Rickster82]

A justified point of criticism in my opinion is that so far no old saves can be transferred to new versions. DC should work on this urgently. It cannot be that we have to start over again (despite cheats) or have to use other people's saves.

 

[srksrk 68]

A justified point of criticism in my opinion is that so far no old saves can be transferred to new versions. DC should work on this urgently. It cannot be that we have to start over again (despite cheats) or have to use other people's saves.

You are not up to date. This is possible since 0.19.1

 

[Rickster82]

You are not up to date. This is possible since 0.19.1

I didn't know...Sorry and thx for the information. It was too damn time.

 

[srksrk 68]

I didn't know...Sorry and thx for the information. It was too damn time.

Apart from that, they always provided a complete savegame if you did not want to re-play everything, except last time (but they provided it later afaik). They did not provide it last time because it is possible to jump right into the new content without need to have played any other story before. So, basically, there never was a need to start over again.

 

[Hank Moody]

So, basically, there never was a need to start over again.

Well that just untrue and you should know better

Some of the storylines require other events to be done in order to proceed with said storyline

Furthermore, the whole point of giving a "cheat" option was to mitigate the frustration of starting over again so many times

 

[srksrk 68]

Well that just untrue and you should know better

Some of the storylines require other events to be done in order to proceed with said storyline

Furthermore, the whole point of giving a "cheat" option was to mitigate the frustration of starting over again so many times

Did you read what I wrote? They provided a savegame each release, except last time, where the new content (Consuela) could be started right away.

 

[laddiestlad]

kevin when

 

[Oriandu]

kevin when

I don't think there's ever been an indication that there would be a Kevin ever.

 

[tramtoriana2]

Are you talking about a quest related to Jenny's story, where you already found and read her diary? Then the door should not be locked. Or are you talking about Master Somrak wanting you to bring him panties? In the second case, proceed with Jenny's story first. Otherwise, you could attach a savegame here and I can see what is missing.

do i really need a walktrough if there is a hint system?

 

[srksrk 68]

do i really need a walktrough if there is a hint system?

Is that a question for me, for the devs or for yourself? You are stuck, so you need *some* help I guess. The

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is a good source of help. The hint system in-game is not yet finished and in some parts incomplete or missleading. If you are using Lain's walkthrough mod -- I never used it but I heard that it is not accurate all the time as well.

 

[Gurus]

How to change name from another one save

 

[laddiestlad]

I don't think there's ever been an indication that there would be a Kevin ever.

check the MCs checklist in his locker, not to mention the ss website talking about m/m content

 

[j4yj4m]

check the MCs checklist in his locker, not to mention the ss website talking about m/m content

Next to that DC mentioned several times that he'd actually like to work on Kevin but that it's too unpopular to be worth the time. So if there's ever going to be content for him, it's very likely going to happen at the very end or it's going to be some kind of small surprise, like in Consuela's case.

 

[TheAnimence8]

Well, I guess the appeal, for me, is that when you play straight through, she is the first girl you see nude and the first girl you get to do anything with -- so it just seems natural that she would progress further and quicker than some of the other ladies, but she doesn't. She hasn't changed at all. We only know, for instance, that Beth is her mother because DC told us so. Poor Judith didn't even get any real character growth in the Mia update, and Mia is suppose to be friends with her. So I keep voting for her just to get the story to go somewhere.

Not trying to be that guy or anything, but even after all these years of playing this game, the only reason why I'd want Judith content is cause of Lopez and Martinez. Now is it DC's fault for lumping Judith with both of them like in the Erik update? Kinda, but if I have to choose between Judith who I admit, its more of a me thing, doesn't really do anything for me or the two Hot Latinas, Imma go with the two. Imo would love to have a seperate update for the both of them, but iirc DC said they're a package deal cause of the story
But don't let me discourage you, just figured I'd give my opinion over a forum about porn on the internet