Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]
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I may not be as hyped for this game as I once was since they kind of botched the 'family' story line (Jenny and Aunt Diane were my favorite characters and their updates were extremely underwhelming), but DC is one of the best devs out there.
Like it or hate it that's just a fact:
1. He sort of sticks to the general plan and doesn't make up any stupid excuses like 'mental fatigue' or they have to revamp the whole engine and start again from the beginning etc when they start making decent money.
2. He also streams regularly which is another thing that separates him from the bad lot.
3. The update bar on the game also gets updated regularly unlike some other games that have been stuck for a couple of months (looking at you ICSTOR).
4. He has managed to actually form a studio and hire people to work on the game. When he started he was entirely on his own.
5. He has managed to keep a certain level of quality in every game update. Every update has been consistently 'good'. No update ever gave me the general feeling of it being bad unlike many other games.
6. Players get to vote on which characters get updates. Some devs do this, some don't but it's still a plus.
Also, the man just had another baby, the fact that he managed to stick to the plan despite that deserves praise on its own.
Give him a break.
Like it or hate it that's just a fact:
1. He sort of sticks to the general plan and doesn't make up any stupid excuses like 'mental fatigue' or they have to revamp the whole engine and start again from the beginning etc when they start making decent money.
2. He also streams regularly which is another thing that separates him from the bad lot.
3. The update bar on the game also gets updated regularly unlike some other games that have been stuck for a couple of months (looking at you ICSTOR).
4. He has managed to actually form a studio and hire people to work on the game. When he started he was entirely on his own.
5. He has managed to keep a certain level of quality in every game update. Every update has been consistently 'good'. No update ever gave me the general feeling of it being bad unlike many other games.
6. Players get to vote on which characters get updates. Some devs do this, some don't but it's still a plus.
Also, the man just had another baby, the fact that he managed to stick to the plan despite that deserves praise on its own.
Give him a break.
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He isn't, but he has a good art style, even if he doesn't update that often you are right the updates are actually good and fleshed out, and he does actually respond to fans.
I think that's the problem: people get too defensive over the word "milking" when it's done to a creator. But he is a milker! What he isn't, like so many creators, is a gritter or overly ambitious/naive. He didn't and won't do two more updates, than just make patreon posts for two years and get a paycheck. He wasn't someone who came in with good intentions but between sloth, overreaching, and a lack of dispiline, put himself in a corner or break his own game so badly it would take a year to self correct.
He is successfully making a quality game, even if he probably is doing it at a damned lesiurable pace. I think for his own sake, because eventually this game is going to come to end and by then he might get bored/burnt out of making games, pick it up a bit or hire more part timers to get the best of both worlds: but he actually is fucking making this game. Unless something terrible happens, it will be finished and people will be playing it for a while.
So you all think that it will happen like in early versions of the game, where the old saves would work just fine or, it will be like in more recent upgrades where we had to star all over again?
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What would you have him do differently or improve upon? What would it take for your to see him as a good dev and not milking?
The only thing I can think of and that's me being selfish, is have him restore incest to the game and get off Patreon because it's holding him back creatively. It's the reason the game got popular in the first place and has a direct impact on the story as well as the reason the Aunt Diane and Jenny updates were bad story updates generally speaking.
But I know that that's a very risky move on his part and he won't do it, which is why I stopped supporting him in the first place.
Even if I don't like the direction the game is heading I can admit that he is a really good dev imo.
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What about the incest patch btw ? Is someone still doing it ? Last time I read about it, there was some issues for making it because of some technical changes in the game (1 to 3 updates ago from what I remember).
Banging one man's wife and another man's momCan't unseen !
She's his mother !
Yep, this is gonna be one good update
- Apr 10, 2017
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Depending on how they set their work flow up, they could done with most of the programming before the art is done. I'd love a peak under the hood at how they do things. I know in the past they said the part of the problem is old code that's the dickens to clean up and that they've been ignoring. Supposedly some of that is cleared up now though.
- Oct 1, 2017
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Patreon was very clear to DC. If he puts it in the game, makes a patch or otherwise endorse it or makes it avaliable by his company or employees or anyont officially associated with him he is instantly banned. There is 0 Tolerance on Patreons side. DC said if it ever comes to the point they think of something else to shut him down we all should not worry according to him cause he has a backup plan if that ever happens. Yet he never mentioned what that plan actually is.
Probably includes a somalian pirate.....
I can't remember which engine it was before Renpy but the game was original made in 2016 by DC alone for him to actually learn how to code anything. If we take that into account it must have been a nightmare for someone who actually can code to watch at that and fix that stuff without losing everything in the process.
Like my lector when i send a book script in and she has to fix all my errors............
As far as i know the old code got mostly cleaned up by now but it was quite a problem as you said they ignored it for a very long time till it got to the point of "we can't ignore it any longer"
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I don't think it's a visual novel. There's currently eight (mostly) separate paths with quests and mini-games.
- Jan 13, 2018
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Is the update coming out on the 02/5/2020? (Today) or don't we know? I don't have access to the "0.20 Bug Fixing" patreon post, can someone explain what it says in there please.
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Just do add, he did it as a kind of mini tutorial the last ~30 min of the stream, where he explained how and why he uses certain techniques. It's still available on
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for a few days.
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