Omnikuken

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I mean the entire point of 0.20 is/was to find out who killed MC's notdad. We now know it's them soviet bois and that they're working with Rump. It also happens Mario Tony has a history with them and Rump somehow got a mad wife and slut daughter. This being a h-game, stuff's gotta happen including schlongs and thots. Now whether any of this has good writing is another question
 

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I really wish people would realize despite having incest in the game Summertime Saga is not an incest game.
That's one of those "as time has gone on" kind of things. When it started, you banged Mom, Aunt Diane, Jenny and observing Mrs Johnson and Erik being close (and eventually joining in). So it's core is very much family playtime.

And if you extend the concept to include "maternal figures", you've got 4 school teachers, Helen, Crystal, Roz, Maria, Tina, and on the horizon there's like half a dozen other potential fuckable "moms" in future versions.
 

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I'm not one of these "DC is milking his Patrons!" whiners, but it seems to me like he's sort of lost control of his development a bit. He's just adding more fuckables that don't really advance anything in any meaningful way. Then again, like all these ncest games, once you get Mom to give up the nookie, it's all gravy after that.
In the end that happened years ago when he promised that basically every female in the game would be fuckable and would get pregnant. Now these promises are kind of catching up to him and it's a lot of work to construct at least a little, little bit of plot for all of them, so they don't end up like Micoe, Crystal or Roz who just offer sex out of nowhere.

I'm personally kind of undecided about it. On one hand I'd like to return to stuff that's a bit more meaningful to the game and would have liked a shorter and more focussed main story, but then again, I actually like these small B and C stories like Consuela and Josephine quite a bit. They make the game so much more substancial than most other ones on the market.
 
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I'd actually agree that her second art looks somewhat better but sadly it seems pretty much impossible to produce the whole game on that level without a massive increase in time needed for the art.
Would agree if the updates really became faster by sacrificing the quality...
Unfortunately the opposite is true.

Remember when he said once the rig system is implemented the art will be done much faster.
Didn't happen

He's not even trying to find a new artist
+ DC works at a slower rate than before.
 

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I was thinking of making a summertime saga mod for honey select 1, if anyone is interesed I have done almost all the summertime ladies in that game from big momma debbie to prototype jackie (rhonda's mom leaked model)
 

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Would agree if the updates really became faster by sacrificing the quality...
Unfortunately the opposite is true.
Remember when he said once the rig system is implemented the art will be done much faster.
Didn't happen
I think that's mainly because the content increased that much (better poses, quests, pregnancy, cut scenes, animations, day/evening/night versions, etc.). If the game would be as simple as it was at the start, like before ~0.14, it would probably have lead to an increase in speed. But by now there's just so much more stuff in it per update, that it's really hard to compare. Else I'd say the overall focus shifted quite a bit, back then, as we see in those Jenny pics, he basically only focussed on boobs and the belly area, while everything else was "just some lines", many early characters were way too orange and the faces were really bad at times, while now every character is actually consistantly well made - across the the whole game it's one style and one level of quality.

The rig system on the other hand was mainly for added flexibilty and for keeping android players on board. Given how popular the mobile version seems to be by now, it was certainly the right decision from a business point of view.

He's not even trying to find a new artist
+ DC works at a slower rate than before.
Both of that is probably true. I mean, back when he started he still had no kids, worked all day and did even drunk night streams. Now he's got three kids etc. (all of which are currently at home thanks to Covid) which will of course impact the time he spends working to more normal hours. I mean, it's nothing new that updates take time and it's not like he's promising fast updates. The game is free, so there's no loss by not pledging or by reducing the pledge to a lower level.

The artist stuff was discussed often and I don't think his position on that changed during these last years. People are free to apply but it has to be perfect or he won't consider it, maily because he doesn't want to spend time on instructing and correcting other people's work.
 
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I couldn't find the file, inside the folder. I found one in another folder but if I delete it, the game doesn't even start
That cannot be because if you install the game fresh (never had it installed before) there will not be any such file. The game creates it when started. So it is totally safe to delete it because that would be as if you freshly installed the game -- which is why I told you to delete it.

Are you sure you deleted the correct one. There are two identical copies:
  • One in <summertime saga>\game\saves
  • One in %appdata%\RenPy\SummertimeSaga
The second one is a generic path, normally this is the same as C:\Users\<your user>\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\SummertimeSaga
 

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DC made another huge mistake he said on today's stream that they are getting ready to release the update next week. Not even the writting tasks are finished yet and he still has like half of the code tasks to finish.
Is that true? If so, I’m down.
 

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Is that true? If so, I’m down.
It's good if he is able to release it next week, I just don't see it happening when they still have so many tasks to finish, and bug testing usually takes a lot of time. And even if he releases it next week it will probably be in the weekend so don't get your hopes too high.
 
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I wouldn't say DC has lost control over development of the game, I would simply say he's focused on the wrong part of it. It probably would have been better for people playing the game if he had gone main story, Ronda, main story, Annie, main story complete.
 

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We weren't supposed to get 3 versions of 0.20 (or whatever number the main story might have got through the polls). It just bloated that huge after DC started working on it. Maybe 1 gigantic update taking the whole year could even have been better than the triple splittening we got instead. The mega-epic rage though, that would be 1 for the archives
 

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As of right now yeah pregnancy for the most part is kinda meaningless. The reason why people want pregnancy is so you can have sex with the girls while they are pregnant. The only two characters where pregnancy is relevant in their story are Maria and Diane. Diane wants to get pregnant to increase milk production and MC needs to get Maria pregnant because tony is sterile.
 
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How long ago did 0.20 release? 2 moths? 3? I checked the patreon and it says 20.5 80% done.
 

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I have a random question if anyone can help me out. I remember playing a game that was kind of like this or Taffy Tales - hand drawn art, sandbox style game. Male MC lived with his mom and 2 sisters. There was a clothing system that required different outfits for different jobs, etc. A lesbian friend who lived next door. There was lady you had to work for who made your character crossdress.

Am I going nuts or does anyone else remember what this was called? I can't seem to find it here. Either I'm crazy, really bad at searching, or it was deleted. Or maybe all of the above.

EDIT: It was this, if anyone was wondering. No wonder I couldn't find it: https://f95zone.to/threads/hermaphr...-the-missing-specimens-v0-7d-fapforce5.18107/
 
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The pregnancy thing in the game is meaningless to me and doesn't add any value tbh.
As of right now yeah pregnancy for the most part is kinda meaningless. The reason why people want pregnancy is so you can have sex with the girls while they are pregnant. The only two characters where pregnancy is relevant in their story are Maria and Diane. Diane wants to get pregnant to increase milk production and MC needs to get Maria pregnant because tony is sterile.
My mod lets you have pregnant sex with Jenny. More to come.
 

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DC made another huge mistake he said on today's stream that they are getting ready to release the update next week. Not even the writting tasks are finished yet and he still has like half of the code tasks to finish.
Well, something like that happens almost every update. People ask him several times every day and at some point he says something. Last time he said the last tasks would be done very soon and bug testing would start at the end of that week, while it actually took a week longer.

So him underestimating the time his team takes to wrap things up once the art is done isn't really new, but at least it means that they are probably not that far away from finishing that stuff.
 

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Well, something like that happens almost every update. People ask him several times every day and at some point he says something. Last time he said the last tasks would be done very soon and bug testing would start at the end of that week, while it actually took a week longer.

So him underestimating the time his team takes to wrap things up once the art is done isn't really new, but at least it means that they are probably not that far away from finishing that stuff.
That is true people bother him a lot, asking for the release date. But I don't think it's a good idea to give people a date or a time frame of when the game might be released if you're not 100% sure you can deliver. It will only upset people and make them bother him even more.
 

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I think that's mainly because the content increased that much (better poses, quests, pregnancy, cut scenes, animations, day/evening/night versions, etc.). If the game would be as simple as it was at the start, like before ~0.14, it would probably have lead to an increase in speed. But by now there's just so much more stuff in it per update, that it's really hard to compare. Else I'd say the overall focus shifted quite a bit, back then, as we see in those Jenny pics, he basically only focussed on boobs and the belly area, while everything else was "just some lines", many early characters were way too orange and the faces were really bad at times, while now every character is actually consistantly well made - across the the whole game it's one style and one level of quality.

The rig system on the other hand was mainly for added flexibilty and for keeping android players on board. Given how popular the mobile version seems to be by now, it was certainly the right decision from a business point of view.


Both of that is probably true. I mean, back when he started he still had no kids, worked all day and did even drunk night streams. Now he's got three kids etc. (all of which are currently at home thanks to Covid) which will of course impact the time he spends working to more normal hours. I mean, it's nothing new that updates take time and it's not like he's promising fast updates. The game is free, so there's no loss by not pledging or by reducing the pledge to a lower level.

The artist stuff was discussed often and I don't think his position on that changed during these last years. People are free to apply but it has to be perfect or he won't consider it, maily because he doesn't want to spend time on instructing and correcting other people's work.
Wasn't the rig system for copy pasting limbs on characters ?
If that would be true the development of the game would really save a lot of time.

Best way to compare how slow he became is by comparing the roxxy update with main story update


I myself have 4 kids & i have to work even more (cause of the non family friendly politics in my country...)
Yeah i know DC earns so much that he don't have to work more, but he's not even working at the same speed as 2 years ago.
(Like you said the consistency in his streams aren't that tight like it was)
My point is it is possible, i would say its not cause he is a tripple daddy now but he became lazy over time.
Remember 0.19.5 wasn't a small update (he worked only 2 months on it), but since 2020 his workflow changed.

& even if its because he don't have enough time there are possiblities to cure this problem with hiring help.
Where there is a will, there's a way.


BTW while we speaking about comparison:
There is a new talent around the corner Jamliz with Sexnote releasing updates every 2 months.
(have 2 admit ss is overall a better game (right now) but he don't have the same resources and his game is not even a year old)
 
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