Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]

[j4yj4m]

Ok, but neither Debbie or Roxxy are not in the poll. So the difference beetween both "future updates" do not translate to a difference in being included into this poll.

Crystal is part of Roxxy's story though. In the end the likely reason is simply that Roxxy has enough scenes for now and that Debbie isn't be included because they don't want to add even more scenes which they can't/won't change afterwards.

As for Jenny I'd guess they simply her again to finally "close" her story because they have added everything they wanted. I still remember that I was excited about the hole in the attic and that it was pretty unsatisfying because nothing really happened with it. Maybe they'll add something now.

I think that for the nature of the update and the nature of the poll, the devs should had included every character like they did in the first poll. Grace has a lack of sex scenes and did incredible good last update, so why not include her? Also Missy should be there. None is one of my favorites but is the most reasonable thing to do.

That has never happened though. DC always gives a choice of options he thinks make sense. In the end they first poll didn't include "everybody" either.

Polls aren't really meant to change anything signifcant or to lead the game in any direction. They are basically entertainment for paying patrons while DC and his team decide which options they'd like to work on.

 

[Heycock]

Crystal is part of Roxxy's story though. In the end the likely reason is simply that Roxxy has enough scenes for now and that Debbie isn't be included because they don't want to add even more scenes which they can't/won't change afterwards.

As for Jenny I'd guess they simply included her to finally "close" her story because they have added everything they wanted.

That has never happened though. DC always gives a choice of options he thinks make sense.

In the end the polls aren't really meant to change anything signifcant or to lead the game in any direction. They are basically entertainment for paying patrons while DC and his team decide which options they'd like to work on.

Watever reason you choose there is always going to be a counter example. Jenny, Eve and Maria has more scenes than Roxxy and yet they are in the poll. And Roxxy had enough scenes for now acording who?
They are already including a scene for Debbie. That was my original point. They can change it afterward, and since it will be new they dont even have reasons to.

Yes, that happened the first tech update poll, and that's because thoose re not story scenes but rather are meant to please the fans as they work on the new update. That poll has a clear chriteria, this one doesnt have it.

 

[j4yj4m]

Watever reason you choose there is always going to be a counter example. Jenny, Eve and Maria has more scenes than Roxxy and yet they are in the poll. And Roxxy had enough scenes for now acording who?

According to DC obviously. In the end Roxxy is still meant to have her update, which will add additional content, while Jenny, Eve and Maria are essentially done. So it kinda makes sense to introduce her content when she wins her poll.

They are already including a scene for Debbie. That was my original point. They can change it afterward, and since it will be new they dont even have reasons to.

My point was that they don't want to add even more, possibly actually specific scenes. Can you always add a scene in her bed? Yes, that'll fit literally any story they'll write. More specific scenes may not be as planable and that's why they don't want to work on it now. Same as Roxxy, she'll get her content when she wins the next poll.

Yes, that happened the first tech update poll, and that's because thoose re not story scenes but rather are meant to please the fans as they work on the new update. That poll has a clear chriteria, this one doesnt have it.

Did it though? The first one was basically just as random as this one and the criteria are still the same.

 

[PTdesu]

Nothing really changed in the poll results.
Eve, Liu, Diane, Crystal, Jenny and Maria and Tony as the top 6.

Crystal was 6th and is now 4th

 

[j4yj4m]

Nothing really changed in the poll results.
Eve, Liu, Diane, Crystal, Jenny and Maria and Tony as the top 6.

I have to say I'm really happy that people are actually voting for the Tony/Maria thing. It'll certainly benefit the game as a whole.

 

[Dragon59]

True and I know it can be a bit subjective and gray, like saying you like goth but not emo or pizza but not thin crust, but I do see a variation and think it's a shame it's the same tag for both. Not something that's that big of a deal of course and certainly not worth flipping out over that or anything - in fact seeing trans characters in more games is actually really neat - I just always saw a difference between trans which may be amab or afab vs intersexed when it came to things like this... it was the application of a more physical/visual sexualization to an otherwise female character but I think I'm taking this off topic now.

As for Eve yeah you're totally right, they leave it very ambiguous as to whether she's trans or futa and I really like that! I guess I just wish they gave the option to let her be pregnant AND have the dick which to me is one of the features you couldn't really have as strictly trans... she's written well enough and a great character that I really don't care which she is it's just that the MC has the chance to get pretty much any character pregnant but I had to go back so many saves and restart the Eve route to get her.

Eve as intersexed might have been interesting. It would have required a very different trauma. Part of trans Eve's trauma (I figure it has been long enough so I don't have to have it in spoiler tags) s that her parents were arguing about her, presumably about her gender identity. This placed a heavy burden on her. Her identification as female caused the death of her parents. Some pretty heavy, messed-up stuff. That's why I felt that the cis Eve variation was weaker. They were arguing about some decision she made, but it wasn't about her identity, and being self conscious about a scar was not as deep. I get the feeling that an Intersexed Eve would be somewhere between. Born Intersexed, her parents would not likely be arguing about that.

Eve as a sympathetic intersex character would have been rather groundbreaking, IMHO.

Also, I wonder if her deadname was Adam. Or better yet, Steve.

people vote EVE as they imagine a treesome between mc eve and a sister

Which of course, isn't going to happen until possibly at the completion of the game when he does decide to make the game NSFPatreon again. In the meantime, no sexy times with people currently related.

Also if Grace is not on that list couse she is secondary character then: what Crystal or Daisy are doing there?
If you find wierd that Missy is not included couse she was 7°, it also has sense to include Grace who got the second position, since is clear that to won in the last poll do not exclude be included inthis one.

7°? Missy was seven degrees? Is that supposed to be 7th?

Not everyone has to fall in love with him, that's boring as fuck. I like that she still pretty much hates his guts, she's just a garbage person anyway which is fine IMO. I'm glad DC isn't turning into NLTMedia with his game, where they used to have a variety of characters, a lot of whom were shitty but entertaining, vs. a bunch of MC dick worshippers which is all they have now.

Perhaps MLTMedia's MC's are taking online courses from Dark Silver's Max, How to Have a Golden Cock(tm) in Only 10 Weeks!

I have to say I'm really happy that people are actually voting for the Tony/Maria thing. It'll certainly benefit the game as a whole.

Agreed! They are refreshing characters, and Maria seems to be the only one who loves sex while pregnant!

 

[Tikky]

Can someone tell me if the main character can interact with all the girls and women in the script,in the sense of sex or not?I went through the whole game (20.9), but a lot of characters were left out.Judging by the communication on the forum, this is not the end of the game?Can anyone say in more detail which of the characters is determined to interact with the main character?Thank you in advance!The game is just a bomb,I would like to explore all possible options for passing.

 

[Heycock]

According to DC obviously. In the end Roxxy is still meant to have her update, which will add additional content, while Jenny, Eve and Maria are essentially done. So it kinda makes sense to introduce her content when she wins her poll.

My point was that they don't want to add even more, possibly actually specific scenes. Can you always add a scene in her bed? Yes, that'll fit literally any story they'll write. More specific scenes may not be as planable and that's why they don't want to work on it now. Same as Roxxy, she'll get her content when she wins the next poll.


Did it though? The first one was basically just as random as this one and the criteria are still the same.

Ok, and that's the thing, acording to DC critheria or as we mention "team preferences". There is no universal reasons there, if you like you can make all Roxxy scenes you want, if you dont, is couse you dont want. Do you understand?
So the point here is is who should choose, DC or the fans. Of course you havethe polls, so the fans get to choose, but only after DC choosethe poll. Usually i dont mind DC to choose since it is his game and you have to give him some creative freedom. But since this update is mostly ment to directly please the fans... it has sense that the fans decide.

Also you say that Jenny story was not done yet, just some moments ago. Actually you sayd that in your opinion that was one of the reasons they included Jenny in the poll in the first place. So...?

About Debbie, yes i get what you sayd, i dont get how can you make sense of that. They can add one scene, they cant add two, why?. There is no a quality difference just a quantity difference. "More specifis scenes may not be as planable" Again, why? As you said is just another scene on her bed. Is not like making the Oddette scene meant nothing in her story, is just an easy extra. That's why we get a Debbie scene in the first place.

And yes the first poll defentely was. That's why noone complained then and people complained now. Couse the chriteria was clear. They put every girl in the game who had already her story done. Do you see? A universal critheria, not a dev preference.

7°? Missy was seven degrees? Is that supposed to be 7th?

Oh, spanish speaker sorry.

 

[Marphey]

Eve as intersexed might have been interesting. It would have required a very different trauma. Part of trans Eve's trauma (I figure it has been long enough so I don't have to have it in spoiler tags) s that her parents were arguing about her, presumably about her gender identity. This placed a heavy burden on her. Her identification as female caused the death of her parents. Some pretty heavy, messed-up stuff. That's why I felt that the cis Eve variation was weaker. They were arguing about some decision she made, but it wasn't about her identity, and being self conscious about a scar was not as deep. I get the feeling that an Intersexed Eve would be somewhere between. Born Intersexed, her parents would not likely be arguing about that.

Eve as a sympathetic intersex character would have been rather groundbreaking, IMHO.

Being told that you probably won't have children of your own can be devastating for people. Stop downplaying that as "not as deep". If the MC didn't had magical super sperm she would probably never get pregnant.

 

[hooter]

We still missing the anal debut between Jenny and the mc and she breaking and finally be in love with him..

I agree , it's time for Jenny to lose the Bitchiness since MC saved her ass in the Warehouse scenario, and start showing some love and appreciation............

 

[phoenixman123]

I have to say I'm really happy that people are actually voting for the Tony/Maria thing. It'll certainly benefit the game as a whole.

I’m honestly surprised it wasn’t in the game already. It just made sense with the “watch” scenario.

 

[owlking]

I was thinking maybe we could use MC's nice cock punish Rump family more
but it's seem not going to happen

 

[poodles]

Everyone saying Jenny doesn’t need more content is nuts. She’s the best character in the game, and considering she’s a “home” character it makes sense that she should have some of the most content in the game. I for one would love to see a Jenny dedicated update in the near future to finish up her arc. Still a lot more to do with her character.

 

[VonRaschke]

The new poll is for 6 new sex scenes

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ofc she's winning

The new scene should be Eve and the MC get high and Eve looks like the original non-supermodel Eve while the MC is high.

 

[McSlut]

Nothing really changed in the poll results.
Eve, Liu, Diane, Crystal, Jenny and Maria and Tony as the top 6.

Crystal was 6th and is now 4th

meh the first tech update poll was much more hype. i look forward to all of these at least a little bit but nothing compares to becca or grace hype for the tech update 1. dc should have included at least missy for sure or that indian doctor from the hospital.

 

[owlking]

Nothing really changed in the poll results.
Eve, Liu, Diane, Crystal, Jenny and Maria and Tony as the top 6.

Crystal was 6th and is now 4th

man the result is kind of boring

 

[McSlut]

also incest patch where? (it's been a while)

 

[Deleted member 3369593]

also incest patch where? (it's been a while)

 

[Rystvalya]

Eve as intersexed might have been interesting. It would have required a very different trauma. Part of trans Eve's trauma (I figure it has been long enough so I don't have to have it in spoiler tags) s that her parents were arguing about her, presumably about her gender identity. This placed a heavy burden on her. Her identification as female caused the death of her parents. Some pretty heavy, messed-up stuff. That's why I felt that the cis Eve variation was weaker. They were arguing about some decision she made, but it wasn't about her identity, and being self conscious about a scar was not as deep. I get the feeling that an Intersexed Eve would be somewhere between. Born Intersexed, her parents would not likely be arguing about that.

Eve as a sympathetic intersex character would have been rather groundbreaking, IMHO.

Also, I wonder if her deadname was Adam. Or better yet, Steve.

That's a really good point, I wasn't even considering how the parents played into that. I was consdering being self conscious about being intersexed would fit in nicely for her character (and better than the scar as the big reveal) but you're absolutely right that leaves out the trauma and character development

 

[j4yj4m]

I’m honestly surprised it wasn’t in the game already. It just made sense with the “watch” scenario.

The development is and has always been limited by the time it takes to create the cut- and sex scenes. That's almost certainly the reason why some scenes, which would be a perfect fit or which are hinted at by dialogs (like the Eve/Odette threesome) haven't happened yet. Then again, these poll at least show that they don't forget about them.