Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]

[Dragon59]

You're not stating an opinion though. An opinon would be "I don't like trans content." You said it "never was intented to be a trans genre game... And drawing the trans animations takes time and effort from normal content." Neither of which are factually true, yet you present them as fact. Three people tell you that you are, in fact, making incorrect statements about the content of the game and the game's development cycle, and present proof as to why you are incorrect. Then you persist in presenting your flawed, self-informed information as facts about the game's development. If you can't differentiate between an opinion and a fact, that doesn't change the definition of those words as defined in American or British English.

Having a trans character in the game or any forum of media is not "hijacking" it.

Agreed. To portray the inclusion of a single trans character, a sympathetic one at that, does not turn a game into "a trans genre game," The inclusion of Russian mobsters does not make a Mafia family genre game either (like DeLuca Family).

Off-topic, possibly will be deleted because O/T.
It actually can but is extremely rare, like <0.1% rare. The highest probability is as a result of Chimerism, which is also very rare- given that the highest estimate of natural human chimeras is ~10%.

Fingers crossed!
I didn't realize the rate was so high for human chimerism. Now that I think about it, cases of different eye colors or hair colors is not extremely uncommon.

Well, yeah, that was kinda the point. Hermaphrodites usually don't have two fully functional sexual organs - certainly not as we see it in some games.
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Sure, it exists, but I mean, the chance to have a perfectly working "normal" dick and a fully functional female sexual organs is basically indeed zero. At least as far as I'm aware.

Not that it really matters. I just wanted to point out that there's a reason why trans and futa shouldn't be used as synonyms.

Agreed they are two very different things.
I was reading that the incidence of having "ovotestes," having both ovarian and testicular tissue, is 1 in 83,000 births. There have been some cases of penile potency, being able to have an erection, but penile fertility is rare to non-existent. It was referenced in a 1994 study but according to a 2010 study, none have been reliably documented. In most cases, the ovaries "rule" and most can get pregnant. I remember decades ago a talk show that had a case of a intersex woman whose father had decided she'd be a boy and had her stitched up. She later had that undone, and had gotten pregnant by her partner, but the British healthcare system denied her prenatal care because her birth certificate said male and males did not get prenatal care. Sheesh! Talk about bureaucratic nightmare!

 

[Dragon59]

Don't forget that this game is made for sexual release. You people just taking this too seriously. This site is definetly not for you if you seek compeling story about transgender people.

I see your point, but I disagree. You are basically saying adult games are porn first in nature which is untrue. The story is important to give life and drive to the sex scenes and the more compelling the story, the more intense and rewarding that scene is. Build up and payoff are essential in these games, which is the main reason why 95% of all adult games are complete trash.

Presumably, there are some people who can achieve "release" while playing these games, but that's not the case for me. I think the last time I climaxed looking at a drawing was when I was in the first months of puberty (I used to trace characters from comics as naked}.
In the 21st century, I use these for erotic entertainment, not fap material. I may get a little aroused, but if I want media for release, I go to real porn.

 

[BBC King]

Presumably, there are some people who can achieve "release" while playing these games, but that's not the case for me. I think the last time I climaxed looking at a drawing was when I was in the first months of puberty (I used to trace characters from comics as naked}.
In the 21st century, I use these for erotic entertainment, not fap material. I may get a little aroused, but if I want media for release, I go to real porn.

Im guessing you never played modded skyrim or fallout, lol.

 

[Dragon59]

Im guessing you never played modded skyrim or fallout, lol.

True, I've never played either of them (modded or unmodded).

 

[yoyomistro]

Presumably, there are some people who can achieve "release" while playing these games, but that's not the case for me. I think the last time I climaxed looking at a drawing was when I was in the first months of puberty (I used to trace characters from comics as naked}.
In the 21st century, I use these for erotic entertainment, not fap material. I may get a little aroused, but if I want media for release, I go to real porn.

Honestly, I get off to games, especially because they're a more immersive avenue to explore some of my more fucked-up turn ons: voyeurism, non-con (mainly forced, sleep sex, mind control/hypnosis, but I'm also down for blackmail), monsters (although the degree to which this is "fucked-up" depends on it's overlap with other genres like non-con, Aqua/Daisy content is pretty kosher), and slow-burn incest (none of that step-cest stuff that's basically gonzo in most films today, I like the peeling away of layers of socialization and biological disgust), but also because they're good vehicles for storytelling that provide powerful experiences if done right.

But it probably only works for me because I've developed a technique where I can edge for hours, so long dead periods with no action in games like this one only help to build up to the big moments, lol. The really crappy thing about the purge is there's less high-quality content that explores some of the more fucked-up content, and a lot of the Japanese stuff is way too wordy and just kills the mood, so I just wait till the OAV releases of the better games. I like regular, real-life stuff though, it's probably 50-50 for me. Animated/illustrated media has just always done something extra for me though. Like I still hold onto older versions of this game for the borderline non-con stuff with Jenny. Some of the greatest scenes in porn game history IMO.

 

[orrayt3x]

who's on the new poll?

 

[Marphey]

Honestly, I get off to games, especially because they're a more immersive avenue to explore some of my more fucked-up turn ons: voyeurism, non-con (mainly forced, sleep sex, mind control/hypnosis, but I'm also down for blackmail), monsters (although the degree to which this is "fucked-up" depends on it's overlap with other genres like non-con, Aqua/Daisy content is pretty kosher), and slow-burn incest (none of that step-cest stuff that's basically gonzo in most films today, I like the peeling away of layers of socialization and biological disgust), but also because they're good vehicles for storytelling that provide powerful experiences if done right.

But it probably only works for me because I've developed a technique where I can edge for hours, so long dead periods with no action in games like this one only help to build up to the big moments, lol. The really crappy thing about the purge is there's less high-quality content that explores some of the more fucked-up content, and a lot of the Japanese stuff is way too wordy and just kills the mood, so I just wait till the OAV releases of the better games. I like regular, real-life stuff though, it's probably 50-50 for me. Animated/illustrated media has just always done something extra for me though. Like I still hold onto older versions of this game for the borderline non-con stuff with Jenny. Some of the greatest scenes in porn game history IMO.

I am always happy when i meet fellow man of culture.

 

[McSlut]

who's on the new poll?

would love to know the same

 

[ILikeTrains]

At least this new discussions in the forum is not the useless "update when? Dc is taking so long. Dc is stealing money (and I'm mad I can't do the same)"

 

[PTdesu]

The new poll is for 6 new sex scenes

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ofc she's winning

 

[WhiteWolf34Uk]

when will come next update of this game? wonder.

 

[McSlut]

no missy or grace on the poll what the hell?

 

[Marphey]

DC should stop including Jenny on the polls. She already has so many scenes give someone else chance ffs.

 

[nitram5]

No Tina? What a lame!

 

[owlking]

man Melonia#1 Svetlana#2 Iwanka#3 are my top 3 in this poll
I guess even I have 4 votes nothing is going to change.
Now, I'm just so glad I don't have to waste 20$ in this one

 

[Dirty_Dan]

Man, I love the Sister and Diane, but come on now. I'm super salty Missy isn't on the poll.

 

[Rystvalya]

What has this place devolved to ? This is so getting nuked within the day .....

And no, the original plan was to have a trap character (aka a dude dressed as a girl for the sole purpose of baiting MC into thinking he's a girl), the trans trait/char appeared way later when Eve was the only schoolgirl left and DC fell for his own schemes/jokes and transformed it to trans for whatever reason (possibly a continuation of said joke)

Technically and depending of what definition you take/use, male Eve can be a futa (girl with a dick or dude with boobs). Just like NTR, "futa" can be a few things (especially if you go the japanese game route)

True and I know it can be a bit subjective and gray, like saying you like goth but not emo or pizza but not thin crust, but I do see a variation and think it's a shame it's the same tag for both. Not something that's that big of a deal of course and certainly not worth flipping out over that or anything - in fact seeing trans characters in more games is actually really neat - I just always saw a difference between trans which may be amab or afab vs intersexed when it came to things like this... it was the application of a more physical/visual sexualization to an otherwise female character but I think I'm taking this off topic now.

As for Eve yeah you're totally right, they leave it very ambiguous as to whether she's trans or futa and I really like that! I guess I just wish they gave the option to let her be pregnant AND have the dick which to me is one of the features you couldn't really have as strictly trans... she's written well enough and a great character that I really don't care which she is it's just that the MC has the chance to get pretty much any character pregnant but I had to go back so many saves and restart the Eve route to get her.

 

[Lupin the 3rd]

no missy or grace on the poll what the hell?

Grace already won a new Scene on the last pull for new scenes...
So of course she isn't in this.

 

[Omniel]

Grace already won a new Scene on the last pull for new scenes...
So of course she isn't in this.

But the same is with eve and jenny too they won in the last poll.

I think he wants to mostly add scenes to those characters whose story is somewhat developed so that he doesn't have to set up the story and dialogues for each sex scene, which can extend development time to the tech update. So maybe that's why these characters are in the poll.
Let's see which 6 characters win in the poll.
And I know many people will outright hate me and might report my comment but personally, I am not really interested in Eve scenes so some other character could have taken that place since she also won the last poll.

 

[JanFreak]

How could be a Voyeur scene in Jenny's story? She fucking another person? Or MC spying her shows again?