Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]

[yoyomistro]

1) That is an opinion and one I don't share.
2) Well I personally would care and I would imagine a fair bit of people would. There's just something depraved about it that turns me off. That's how I see it though and if you think differently, whatever.
3) Don't speak for another person, they said people with small peepees and that's what I'm going to take that as. If they want to step in and clarify so be it. It's ironic you put it as insecurity, when it seems you are plagued by the very same thing my friend.

Of course you don't have to self insert, but many choose to and that is what a lot of creators want you to do. And saying that you wouldn't want to insert oneself into an action, horror, or porn movie is pretty stupid. And besides, self-insertion has little if anything to do with it. Now this might be a novel concept to one such as yourself, but some people just simply don't like a certain fetish or genre. And that has nothing to do with being insecure or an issue of self insertion, just simply preference. Going by your logic, where insecurity and self insertion is the driving concern, everybody should enjoy watching scat porn or bestiality porn so long as they're not insecure or self inserting themselves into those mediums.

I'm afraid your logic is flawed and makes little sense overall. Like what you like my friend, but don't be insecure and belittle people for not sharing your views.

1)Yea, that's clearly an opinion, and I wouldn't posit it as anything else. Describing something as great, i.e., "Sushi is great" can usually be inferred to be an opinion.
2)Thanks for recognizing that opinions differ on this point. You posited the situation as "Imagine if..." so I answered in kind.
3)Inferring the descriptor of "small peepee" to be not literal, but reinforcing symbolism for "insecure" is a natural step, just as 'small-hearted' or 'pusillanimous' can be inferred to not literally be representations of the size of one's heart or whatever one considers to be a soul. I'm not sure where you're inferring insecurity on my part.

Sorry if you feel I impose self-insertion on you, but you do seem to imply that you do so with your hypothetical pregnant mother situation. I don't know what creators expect of me when consuming their work, and I understand that many consumers choose to self-insert and have no problem with that. I'm not sure how not wanting to self-insert into a work of fiction in which horrific violence is occurring is "stupid". I'm merely asking people who choose to self-insert into works of fiction or depictions of fictional scenarios not to do so, and imagine it from that perspective, same as you ask people to imagine their mothers in a pregnancy porn film.

I'm not putting this on you, and sorry if it seems like I do, but many people who post on here about disliking or hating fetishes like NTR, BDSM, sharing, MM group sex, do so extremely emotionally and while belittling people who like or aren't bothered by those fetishes. Interpreting that as insecurity is not belittling but merely interpreting an emotional response as insecurity, like a guy who spends time talking about how tough he is and how inadequate he perceives other men to be.

This will end well .....

 

[forgetmaster]

What happened to the patch,can someone link it?

 

[Hero1]

I foresee one issue with this:
Insecure people with small peepees would cry about it being NTR because we didn't knock her up.
Pretty sad, I know. But it's what would no doubt happen.

Or worse, if the baby is a boy then there is already a penis inside the woman which is probably NTR² or even NTR³. And also kinda gay considering how close MC's dick will get to the other dick...

/s

 

[j4yj4m]

I'd rather them just add some content to the girls you can already knock up. Every girl should have at least on preggo sex scene, even if it's just an edit of an existing one. It seems pretty apparent to me that pregnancy is on the backburner and likely no ones kink on the dev team so if they did a character solely focused on it I fear she likely wouldn't be done "properly" and be a waste.

Jenny will get a scene next update and more will follow for sure. I'd say that Diane may be next sooner than later. It's just not a priority and there are probably indeed missing scenes for most characters, which are a lot more popular to be added before. It's simply one fetish among many and it's treated as such.

When it comes to this "girl already pregnant thing", it just won't happen. For the main reason that you'd have to properly tell her story looking back, to make people understand what happened (which means a lot of text) and that it would very likely just be a mix of Judith's/Eve's story, so it doesn't really add anything, while some may even dislike the game for it. That's certainly a net negative.
If one wants pregnant sex, there are many girls where it would fit, especially Diane. DC just has to take the time to draw and add the content - which, as always, is the reason why it's not happening right now.

 

[johndoe19]

1)Yea, that's clearly an opinion, and I wouldn't posit it as anything else. Describing something as great, i.e., "Sushi is great" can usually be inferred to be an opinion.
2)Thanks for recognizing that opinions differ on this point. You posited the situation as "Imagine if..." so I answered in kind.
3)Inferring the descriptor of "small peepee" to be not literal, but reinforcing symbolism for "insecure" is a natural step, just as 'small-hearted' or 'pusillanimous' can be inferred to not literally be representations of the size of one's heart or whatever one considers to be a soul. I'm not sure where you're inferring insecurity on my part.

Sorry if you feel I impose self-insertion on you, but you do seem to imply that you do so with your hypothetical pregnant mother situation. I don't know what creators expect of me when consuming their work, and I understand that many consumers choose to self-insert and have no problem with that. I'm not sure how not wanting to self-insert into a work of fiction in which horrific violence is occurring is "stupid". I'm merely asking people who choose to self-insert into works of fiction or depictions of fictional scenarios not to do so, and imagine it from that perspective, same as you ask people to imagine their mothers in a pregnancy porn film.

I'm not putting this on you, and sorry if it seems like I do, but many people who post on here about disliking or hating fetishes like NTR, BDSM, sharing, MM group sex, do so extremely emotionally and while belittling people who like or aren't bothered by those fetishes. Interpreting that as insecurity is not belittling but merely interpreting an emotional response as insecurity, like a guy who spends time talking about how tough he is and how inadequate he perceives other men to be.

1) I didn't want to assume if that was a statement or an opinion on your part. However, you have now clarified and just like before, you are entitled to your opinion whether i agree or not.
3) You seem to be more comfortable than i in making assumptions when interpreting something, which is fine. When someone says something and there is multiple interpretations, I tend to go with the safest one and that is usually the most literal one. But either way, i do see how it could not be so literal and me saying i have a big peepee was more of a joke to mix in with my disagreement.

I impose self insertion on my self if anything, so no apology needed. To clarify, I am not saying that not inserting yourself into those works of fiction is stupid. But you said self inserting into those genres of work would be a nightmare so why do it. While i understand, i disagree at the same time. for me, relating to the protagonist of a action movie makes me enjoy it more, or for the horror movie makes me more scared. Being able to relate and put yourself in the shoes of the characters makes a story more enjoyable or engrossing to a lot of people. But vice verse, it can also ruin a story as well if they don't like the content, ntr for example. Asking a person who enjoys things that way to not do so, is no trivial thing like you try to put it. I think a takeaway from that is that people enjoy things in different ways and to respect that.

I actually agree with your last paragraph almost if not completely. But you must admit, just as there are people that will demean you for liking ntr, there are people who will do the same for not liking it. As for me, I dislike ntr myself and avoid it whenever I can in these games. But I also understand it is a fetish and even though it is not for me, other people still enjoy it. The only time i myself will belittle someone who likes ntr is when they do what you yourself dislike, otherwise i remain respectful.

 

[Squark ⚧❤️]

I was loving the back and forth bickering I helped create.

 

[Dragon59]

Sorry if you feel I impose self-insertion on you, but you do seem to imply that you do so with your hypothetical pregnant mother situation. I don't know what creators expect of me when consuming their work, and I understand that many consumers choose to self-insert and have no problem with that. I'm not sure how not wanting to self-insert into a work of fiction in which horrific violence is occurring is "stupid". I'm merely asking people who choose to self-insert into works of fiction or depictions of fictional scenarios not to do so, and imagine it from that perspective, same as you ask people to imagine their mothers in a pregnancy porn film.

I'm really wondering if some of this disgust at "pregnancy sex" is thinking that the semen is getting past the cervix, past the amniotic sack and giving the embryo a "body shot." As Han Solo said, "It doesn't work that way!"

And I didn't realize there were people trying to imagine the fetus' thoughts when their parents are having sex. I don't think that they are offended.

 

[Jay.k]

Need 20.5 saves files. My old saves file gone.

 

[sirviper235]

Okay wow yeah. And that set off a whole mess lol. They're are good points here though.

I'm going to say what my original idea was and be very clear about it. To try to avoid anyone thinking it's NTR.

All right. The way I see it the best solution to the issue of how half-hearted the entire pregnancy system is is to just build a girl around it. It's her focus and pretty much all her scenes have it. She starts out already pregnant.

The very clear point here is though. This is a previous relationship she had. She is already pregnant before we start interacting with her. That way it is not NTR. If she was made pregnant during our time with her then yes it would be NTR.

Now with that firmly established there are two ways I can see this girl being implemented.

1. Easily the less popular option and probably one I wouldn't go with. Create a new girl for the game, that transfers to the school. Or is the half sibling of a character we already know about. Being a completely new girl opens up a lot of avenues to explore and possible new locations and side characters. The advantage of this is that it's a fresh new girl that can have a new design. The downside to this is it's adding more to the pile and would just take away from girls that desperately need to be fleshed out. I am not as into this idea as number two but I can't deny there is a lot of potential here.

2. Use an existing one that doesn't really have anything going on with them. Now if I were to go with this one I would choose Judith. Now why her? The answer is simple. Judith is in my opinion well suited to this kind of thing where before she and our player character started to interact there was a previous boy in her life who wasn't a good guy and just used her for sex. And then broke up. To be clear. She did not have any sex with this guy from the start of the game it happened before.

This way it's no different than the fact that Roxxy had sex with Dexter before. Or that Maria did with Tony.

And honestly Judith desperately needs an interesting storyline. As she pretty much already has a huge crush on our player character you need to make up a reason for her to not immediately go all in. This is one.

She would be afraid he wouldn't like or want her knowing she's pregnant.

Again. NOT NTR.

But these are just examples.

What do you all think.

 

[nolli]

Okay wow yeah. And that set off a whole mess lol. They're are good points here though.

I'm going to say what my original idea was and be very clear about it. To try to avoid anyone thinking it's NTR.

All right. The way I see it the best solution to the issue of how half-hearted the entire pregnancy system is is to just build a girl around it. It's her focus and pretty much all her scenes have it. She starts out already pregnant.

The very clear point here is though. This is a previous relationship she had. She is already pregnant before we start interacting with her. That way it is not NTR. If she was made pregnant during our time with her then yes it would be NTR.

Now with that firmly established there are two ways I can see this girl being implemented.

1. Easily the less popular option and probably one I wouldn't go with. Create a new girl for the game, that transfers to the school. Or is the half sibling of a character we already know about. Being a completely new girl opens up a lot of avenues to explore and possible new locations and side characters. The advantage of this is that it's a fresh new girl that can have a new design. The downside to this is it's adding more to the pile and would just take away from girls that desperately need to be fleshed out. I am not as into this idea as number two but I can't deny there is a lot of potential here.

2. Use an existing one that doesn't really have anything going on with them. Now if I were to go with this one I would choose Judith. Now why her? The answer is simple. Judith is in my opinion well suited to this kind of thing where before she and our player character started to interact there was a previous boy in her life who wasn't a good guy and just used her for sex. And then broke up. To be clear. She did not have any sex with this guy from the start of the game it happened before.

This way it's no different than the fact that Roxxy had sex with Dexter before. Or that Maria did with Tony.

And honestly Judith desperately needs an interesting storyline. As she pretty much already has a huge crush on our player character you need to make up a reason for her to not immediately go all in. This is one.

She would be afraid he wouldn't like or want her knowing she's pregnant.

Again. NOT NTR.

But these are just examples.

What do you all think.

I think do I need to scroll past much more of this type nonsense. Get some friends out in the real world.

 

[Deleted member 3763518]

What happened to the patch,can someone link it?

 

[jestertlw]

You are way too nice. All it takes is for them to do a simple search (or scoll back a page or two) in this thread for them to find the patch. So, since you are such a generous person, will you give me one million dollars in current day United States currency? Thank you!

 

[Dirty_Dan]

Yeah, I'm not against a (pre meeting) pregnant character being in the game, but those suggestions certainly aren't my cup of tea. And I defintely wouldn't care for any of the school characters being used to explore it.

Introduce a newly divorced/widowed MILF for that sort of story line. Light of My Life has a fun plotline involving a pregnant character that was pretty good. You don't even see the husband and you still get the girl.

 

[Rando Civ]

I foresee one issue with this:
Insecure people with small peepees would cry about it being NTR because we didn't knock her up.
Pretty sad, I know. But it's what would no doubt happen.

That is exactly what would happen.

 

[YuuMoka]

so its the first time i am going to play this game and i was wondering if i should download any of the mods or add the incest patch what would you guys recomend

 

[j4yj4m]

so its the first time i am going to play this game and i was wondering if i should download any of the mods or add the incest patch what would you guys recomend

The naughty tribute mod is a good addition to the game and fixes some bugs, but I do indeed deactive some features which go too far for my taste.

The game certainly doesn't need mods, though, and the incest patch is only needed if you really like incest.

 

[YuuMoka]

The naughty tribute mod is a good addition to the game and fixes some bugs, but I do indeed deactive some features which go too far for my taste.

The game certainly doesn't need mods, though, and the incest patch is only needed if you really like incest.

i see thx for the help ill check it out

 

[YuuMoka]

The naughty tribute mod is a good addition to the game and fixes some bugs, but I do indeed deactive some features which go too far for my taste.

The game certainly doesn't need mods, though, and the incest patch is only needed if you really like incest.

Hey another thing, i see that the game was meant to have incest from the star but because patreons guidelines they had to remove it, so my question is doesnt the game feel weird without the incest patch?

 

[j4yj4m]

Hey another thing, i see that the game was meant to have incest from the star but because patreons guidelines they had to remove it, so my question is doesnt the game feel weird without the incest patch?

Yes, that's essentially what happened and no, not really. The incest has never been a central part of the story and as such it's not as bad. The mom became a good friend of MC's dad and the sister her daughter. So it still feels quite natural.

Edit: Sure, it's not 100% perfect but I've never been bothered by it.

 

[YuuMoka]

Yes, that's essentially what happened and no, not really. The incest has never been a central part of the story and as such it's not as bad. The mom became a good friend of MC's dad and the sister her daughter. So it still feels quite natural.

Edit: Sure, it's not 100% perfect but I've never been bothered by it.

ok, thanks for the help thats all my questions.