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im playing on version 20-11 and i have roxxys story line complete but it wont let me do any of the extra scenes like the one with her mom or sex in the locker anyone know how to fix this?
For Sex with Crystal you have to have Sex with Roxxy in the trailer when she is outside. For locker sex, you have to have sex with her in the trailer as well again. For further questions, the is your friend.
 

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50/50 chance it was the fake DC account on Instagram or whatever and we've been bamboozled
Then he would have done a good job faking his game developer tag ;)

He did some cameo appearances in this forum. Last was over two years back already. I wished he would post more often here, at least once per release or so.
 

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For Sex with Crystal you have to have Sex with Roxxy in the trailer when she is outside. For locker sex, you have to have sex with her in the trailer as well again. For further questions, the is your friend.
I think it's a shame that we can't talk to Crystel in bed. If she do something like that, "put horns" on her own daughter, then do it right, right? Anyway, I wonder why there is only 1 bed in the trialer. Do mom and daughter sleep in there together? Or is Crystel sleeping outside in the field?
 
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Anyway, I wonder why there is only 1 bed in the trialer. Do mom and daughter sleep in there together? Or is Crystel sleeping outside in the field?
As far as I remember Roxxy mentions that there's only room for one bed for both of them.
1- All of that will be touched on in Annie's story (3 updates from now) and yes it's going to be a large update including Annie/Her Mom/Mrs Smith hscenes (and pregnancies). Will most likely do split endings as well if time allows.
I hope you can find the time to add a that split, as these do improve the stories and the game in general significantly in my opinion.
 
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I hope you can find the time to add a that split, as these do improve the stories and the game in general significantly in my opinion.
So how can splitting improve the plot and story, eh? Need to save and replay the game again? I personally think it's better to have one coherent plot and all the scenes concentrated in one playthrough, rather than "smeared" along many lines. After all, the STS was never advertised as an RPG game. The exception may be Eve's story (for obvious reasons) or perhaps a prom night when you need to finally choose the queen of the ball. Although it is possible to implement a "harem version" in the sitcom genre
(a classic example - the marriage of Figaro), when the hero has to torn between many heroines, hiding his betrayal from them and getting into various funny situations. It is much easier to implement than 6-7 "romantic" parallel stories, it would be much more fun and interesting and could be a worthy ending for the whole game.
 

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So how can splitting improve the plot and story, eh?
Massively, indeed, simply because you can write good stories and don't have to bend everything so that every girls fits into the harem eventually. That's fine with 2 or 3 characters (maybe 4 to 5) but as soon as it's more than that the game usually suffers or gets boring pretty quickly.

Just take Mia's story as an example, where you've got Helen and Yumi. A split enables us to get a nice and somewhat meaningful story for Helen and Yumi each, because Harold will get the other one. It's the same with let's say June and Mrs. Johnson or Judith and the Latinas.

To a degree it's just as Eve's story would have benefitted from a "naughty branch", where MC doesn't go down the romance path but focusses more on the lewd stuff including Grace and Odette, so we could be spared the fact, that Grace has concerns about fucking MC and that there's no way to get her scenes without that.

Need to save and replay the game again?
The game tells you when to save and you can just start from there and play the other arc. I don't see the problem.

I personally think it's better to have one coherent plot and all the scenes concentrated in one playthrough, rather than "smeared" along many lines.
I personally think the opposite. Especially because the plot my be coherent but usually just becomes pretty meaningless.
After all, the STS was never advertised as an RPG game.
It was and is indeed advertised as "dating sim/VN" and as thus it's pretty reasonable to expect choices. In fact it would be odd if there weren't any.

Although it is possible to implement a "harem version" in the sitcom genre
To be fair, the game was never really meant to be a harem. Yes, you'd always be able to fuck every girl in town (it was never promised that it would be possible in one playthrough) but in the first ~18 months DC actually refused to even add a harem feature and only agreed because so many people wanted it.

I don't really know where the expectation that every girl should be fuckable in one playthrough comes from.
 
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Massively, indeed, simply because you can write good stories and don't have to bend everything so that every girls fits into the harem eventually. That's fine with 2 or 3 characters (maybe 4 to 5) but as soon as it's more than that the game usually suffers or gets boring pretty quickly.

Just take Mia's story as an example, where you've got Helen and Yumi. A split enables us to get a nice and somewhat meaningful story for Helen and Yumi each, because Harold will get the other one. It's the same with let's say June and Mrs. Johnson or Judith and the Latinas.

To a degree it's just as Eve's story would have benefitted from a "naughty branch", where MC doesn't go down the romance path but focusses more on the lewd stuff including Grace and Odette, so we could be spared the fact, that Grace has concerns about fucking MC and that there's no way to get her scenes without that.


The game tells you when to save and you can just start from there and play the other arc. I don't see the problem.


I personally think the opposite. Especially because the plot my be coherent but usually just becomes pretty meaningless.

It was and is indeed advertised as "dating sim/VN" and as thus it's pretty reasonable to expect choices. In fact it would be odd if there weren't any.


To be fair, the game was never really meant to be a harem. Yes, you'd always be able to fuck every girl in town (it was never promised that it would be possible in one playthrough) but in the first ~18 months DC actually refused to even add a harem feature and only agreed because so many people wanted it.

I don't really know where the expectation that every girl should be fuckable in one playthrough comes from.
For me, the game get's it's most appeal in the fact that you can boink each and every girl in town without the consequences. This includes being able to do so in one playthrough. I mean, we already have enough realism in RL, I don't need that in a game with monster girls and a shovel that fits into a backpack.

I am not so much into NTR (don't start a thread explaining to me why I use that phrase wrong here pls) the more so because it does not fit MC's personality. I would be happy if DC could bend reality enought to make every girl happy without the need for MC to betray them. Just like it was with Missy/Becca/Roxxy, Grace/Odette, Debbie/Diane, Maria/Tony and all the other people who know about each other.

I was not so happy with the Grace/Eve controversal because it absolutely does not fit MC imo. I hope DC can do better here and in future.
 

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For me, the game get's it's most appeal in the fact that you can boink each and every girl in town without the consequences. This includes being able to do so in one playthrough. I mean, we already have enough realism in RL, I don't need that in a game with monster girls and a shovel that fits into a backpack.
I was not so happy with the Grace/Eve controversal because it absolutely does not fit MC imo. I hope DC can do better here and in future.
I think that's kinda of contradictory. To me it's indeed pretty simple, if you want a game where every girl is in the harem, you simply can't have deeper "classical" romance (like in Eve's case), somewhat meaningful male friendsships (like Erik or Harold), etc. without it becoming totally weird or totally out of character.

I get that people don't care for these things and would be happy for DC to ignore it, but I simply think that this whole "full harem" thing just doesn't fit SS. There are games where the harem is key and where the game is essentially tailored/written towards it and quite a few of them are great. But SS wasn't meant to be that way and it shows in almost every story.

I would be happy if DC could bend reality enought to make every girl happy without the need for MC to betray them.
I strongly disagree here, to be honest. For the simply reason that it basically never works. Once you have to start "bending" existing stories they either become bad or boring or seem really lazy.

Also I don't really want to see that content wise, either. I'd like to see Harold and Helen back happy together while MC is having fun with Mia and Yumi. I'd like MC and Judith to kick some Latina ass without having to think about that MC has to fuck them later on, I may even like to get rid of Mrs. Smith for good if that that's an option and have MC take over her cult, etc.

If everyboy has to stay on "good terms" and be available for the harem, it just cuts off so many possibilities which in my opinon would be quite sad, given the great options the game offers.

Just do add: I'm not saying there shouldn't be threesomes, foursomes, fivesomes, whatever else is possible - but just that it should be within character and fitting for these specific stories. Even now the game offers more realisitc possibilities than DC could ever complete and to me that's really enough.
 
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Massively, indeed, simply because you can write good stories and don't have to bend everything so that every girls fits into the harem eventually. That's fine with 2 or 3 characters (maybe 4 to 5) but as soon as it's more than that the game usually suffers or gets boring pretty quickly.

Just take Mia's story as an example, where you've got Helen and Yumi. A split enables us to get a nice and somewhat meaningful story for Helen and Yumi each, because Harold will get the other one. It's the same with let's say June and Mrs. Johnson or Judith and the Latinas.

To a degree it's just as Eve's story would have benefitted from a "naughty branch", where MC doesn't go down the romance path but focusses more on the lewd stuff including Grace and Odette, so we could be spared the fact, that Grace has concerns about fucking MC and that there's no way to get her scenes without that.
To be fair, the game was never really meant to be a harem. Yes, you'd always be able to fuck every girl in town (it was never promised that it would be possible in one playthrough) but in the first ~18 months DC actually refused to even add a harem feature and only agreed because so many people wanted it.

I don't really know where the expectation that every girl should be fuckable in one playthrough comes from.
Although i disagree with your opinion, but i respect it. Everything will depend on Cookies, and since the release speed is very low, the concept may have changed several times by that time.
 
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hey there, i'm not the big expert of game like summertime saga, but i like the style of the game, can smb recommend some more game like SG? ( all the most popular games like milfy city, harem hotel, taffy tales i've already tried)
 

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hey there, i'm not the big expert of game like summertime saga, but i like the style of the game, can smb recommend some more game like SG? ( all the most popular games like milfy city, harem hotel, taffy tales i've already tried)
You already played most of them and any listing of other games will get deleted. Better go into the thread list/latest updates and look for yourself
 

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hey there, i'm not the big expert of game like summertime saga, but i like the style of the game, can smb recommend some more game like SG? ( all the most popular games like milfy city, harem hotel, taffy tales i've already tried)
In addition to what was said, you may sort that "Latest updates list" by weighted rating (the star on the very right) and you'll get some great options. One of the games that is a good contender would be "What a Legend!" which you'll find there, too. Next to that I'd highly recommend "a house in the rift".

Everything will depend on Cookies, and since the release speed is very low, the concept may have changed several times by that time.
That's certainly true when it comes to choices, though at the moment it looks like they are coming around to implementing more of them again, after it looked like most of them would be gone for good. But we'll only know once it's done.
 

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I think that's kinda of contradictory. To me it's indeed pretty simple, if you want a game where every girl is in the harem, you simply can't have deeper "classical" romance (like in Eve's case), somewhat meaningful male friendsships (like Erik or Harold), etc. without it becoming totally weird or totally out of character.

I get that people don't care for these things and would be happy for DC to ignore it, but I simply think that this whole "full harem" thing just doesn't fit SS. There are games where the harem is key and where the game is essentially tailored/written towards it and quite a few of them are great. But SS wasn't meant to be that way and it shows in almost every story.


I strongly disagree here, to be honest. For the simply reason that it basically never works. Once you have to start "bending" existing stories they either become bad or boring or seem really lazy.

Also I don't really want to see that content wise, either. I'd like to see Harold and Helen back happy together while MC is having fun with Mia and Yumi. I'd like MC and Judith to kick some Latina ass without having to think about that MC has to fuck them later on, I may even like to get rid of Mrs. Smith for good if that that's an option and have MC take over her cult, etc.

If everyboy has to stay on "good terms" and be available for the harem, it just cuts off so many possibilities which in my opinon would be quite sad, given the great options the game offers.

Just do add: I'm not saying there shouldn't be threesomes, foursomes, fivesomes, whatever else is possible - but just that it should be within character and fitting for these specific stories. Even now the game offers more realisitc possibilities than DC could ever complete and to me that's really enough.
There are games that do exactly what I wrote. Mentioning them here would make this post disappear, so...

Don't forget that this game has magic, and MC has a magic tool. That counts for something. As I said, many of the girls are already totally fine. And btw I never mentioned a harem. There are many twists that could make this happen. Some girls might just not mind to share, some might want to do better than the other, some might even want it that way. And some might become totally addicted and do anything at all.

Possibilities would be countless, and it's all about fantasy. As I said, I don't need reality or realism here, I already have it.

Edit: I would like to add that, by your logic, MC would get to boink only one girl in one playthrough because as soon as any other finds out, it'll be all over. Why would Roxxy tolerate the MC/Eve relationship, for example? So much for realism ;)
 
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Don't forget that this game has magic, and MC has a magic tool. That counts for something.
Yeah, but that's excatly what I meant by "boring" and "lazy". You just can't write a story like Eve's and then make her join a harem by having some magic tool. The same goes for making guys like Harold disappear or so because he's in the way of having Helen and Yumi at the same time. It totally discounts their story and their characters for no real reason up to the point that DC shouldn't have bothered in the first place.

As said, yes, there are games that are specifically made to be harems and they do it well. But these games usually feature different setting and different casts. Then again, there are just as many really bad harem games where I've personally stopped playing at like ~80% because it just got random/boring as hell.

Some girls might just not mind to share, some might want to do better than the other, some might even want it that way. And some might become totally addicted and do anything at all.
And that's fine. But at the same time some girls may not like to share, may hate other girls so much that they don't want to share with some specific girls but with others, some may not be compatible for other reasons etc. and I don't see why that shouldn't be as valid as your points.

As said before, the fact alone that some guys are too lazy to save and load a savegame doesn't convince me, personally.

For me this isn't about "realism" but about good and bad writing. At some point it usually simply often becomes so stupid that it's just not worth it anymore and I hope that won't happen to SS.

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Edit: I would like to add that, by your logic, MC would get to boink only one girl in one playthrough because as soon as any other finds out, it'll be all over. Why would Roxxy tolerate the MC/Eve relationship, for example? So much for realism ;)
The point is indeed that you could make a let's say main single girl playthrough and get a great experience out of it, like you'd do in the many VNs. If every girl is taylored towards sharing that's probably not really the case.

Don't forget that in the future the schoolgirl's sex scenes will be more exclusive because they'll be locked behind the dating system. So we are kinda moving in that direction and I'm pretty sure that's actually closer to what DC had in mind when he started the game than a "fuck everyone in one playthrough". But that's of course just my opinion.
 
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Yeah, but that's excatly what I meant by "boring" and "lazy". You just can't write a story like Eve's and then make her join a harem by having some magic tool. The same goes for making guys like Harold disappear or so because he's in the way of having Helen and Yumi at the same time. It totally discounts their story and their characters for no real reason up to the point that DC shouldn't have bothered in the first place.

As said, yes, there are games that are specifically made to be harems and they do it well. But these games usually feature different setting and different casts. Then again, there are just as many really bad harem games where I've personally stopped playing at like ~80% because it just got random/boring as hell.


And that's fine. But at the same time some girls may not like to share, may hate other girls so much that they don't want to share with some specific girls but with others, some may not be compatible for other reasons etc. and I don't see why that shouldn't be as valid as your points.

As said before, the fact alone that some guys are too lazy to save and load a savegame doesn't convince me, personally.

For me this isn't about "realism" but about good and bad writing. At some point it usually simply often becomes so stupid that it's just not worth it anymore and I hope that won't happen to SS.
It's not about save and load. You have it all in the gallery. I understand that what I would like to see is something you won't, and the other way round. I hope we will both stay satisfied. As I said, the charme for me is having it all at the same time. Certainly that requires some good piece of story writing. And some thing might better left unwritten but only, if at all, hinted at, like the Eve/Roxxy thing I mentioned. Why must it be otherwise for, say, Mia/Helen?
 

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hey there, i'm not the big expert of game like summertime saga, but i like the style of the game, can smb recommend some more game like SG? ( all the most popular games like milfy city, harem hotel, taffy tales i've already tried)
When I see SG in capitals like that, I immediately thought "Suicide Girls." ;)
You already played most of them and any listing of other games will get deleted. Better go into the thread list/latest updates and look for yourself
Yeah, I made a joke post linking a bunch of the "summer" titles into one grand epic in one of the "summer" threads. It was popular, but eventually got deleted.
 

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In addition to what was said, you may sort that "Latest updates list" by weighted rating (the star on the very right) and you'll get some great options. One of the games that is a good contender would be "What a Legend!" which you'll find there, too. Next to that I'd highly recommend "a house in the rift".


That's certainly true when it comes to choices, though at the moment it looks like they are coming around to implementing more of them again, after it looked like most of them would be gone for good. But we'll only know once it's done.
What a legend is a cool game, but has lack of content 4 me, so i've decided to wait 4 more updates
about another game, thanks for the recommendation, i would try it out
 
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As I said, the charme for me is having it all at the same time. Certainly that requires some good piece of story writing. And some thing might better left unwritten but only, if at all, hinted at, like the Eve/Roxxy thing I mentioned. Why must it be otherwise for, say, Mia/Helen?
Well, you'll be able to get Mia and Helen in one playthrough, just not Helen and Yumi (at least that's as far as I know their current plans are going).
To me it's more about the default position. The stories should be great and veried on their own and then we can see the possibilities that arise to tie up the loose ends and make the relations possible, that seem possible or to simply leave things unmentioned, as you say. In that case it's up to those who want to get as many girls as possible to live with these inconsistencies, as it is now.

But that's a fundamentally different approach compared to "force" every girl in one single playthrough. I'm not against the former but pretty much against the latter. I totally don't mind the current situation as it is between let's say Eve and Roxxy, but right now I'd really be against adding content into the game that somehow creates a sharing situation, simply because it fits neither of their stories.
 
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