Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]

[srksrk 68]

Well, you'll be able to get Mia and Helen in one playthrough, just not Helen and Yumi (at least that's as far as I know their current plans are going).
To me it's more about the default position. The stories should be great and veried on their own and then we can see the possibilities that arise to tie up the loose ends and make the relations possible, that seem possible or to simply leave things unmentioned, as you say. In that case it's up to those who want to get as many girls as possible to live with these inconsistencies, as it is now.

But that's a fundamentally different approach compared to "force" every girl in one single playthrough. I'm not against the former but pretty much against the latter. I totally don't mind the current situation as it is between let's say Eve and Roxxy, but right now I'd really be against adding content into the game that somehow creates a sharing situation, simply because it fits neither of their stories.

Just asking myself: if MC can have Yumi, how should that fit into the various crossovers her story already has with Roxxy, Jenny, Debbie and Maria? And don't all the teachers not talk to one another?

 

[srksrk 68]

What a legend is a cool game, but has lack of content 4 me, so i've decided to wait 4 more updates
about another game, thanks for the recommendation, i would try it out

I would advise you to wait for the coming update which might drop soon, but definitely try that. It's very funny and has not so little content as you might think. Or do yo say you already played it and find the content lacking?

 

[j4yj4m]

Just asking myself: if MC can have Yumi, how should that fit into the various crossovers her story already has with Roxxy, Jenny, Debbie and Maria? And don't all the teachers not talk to one another?

I mean, she's one of the less important ones among the secondary characters, so I'd expect it to be similar to Liu where it's more a privat matter that'll happen in her flat or so and that won't influence interactions with other characters next to MC that much or even at all.

As for the teachers? I don't really know what's going to happen to them. All of them are secondary characters, too, so I don't know how much time DC wants to invest into connecting their stories or into adding scenes which involve multiple characters. I'd say everything seems possible here storywise but I doubt they'll be important enough to spend that much time on them.

 

[ThereIs]

Since we're on the subject and Cookie himself may be here, I'll ask the question everyone wants to know:

Will we be seeing any of Roz's twin sister Roze?
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"The name's RO-O-O-OZE!"

So if she is add in the game. Will MC have a threesome with her and Roz?
I should have ask this yesterday when DC was around.

 

[nilo96]

That's certainly true when it comes to choices, though at the moment it looks like they are coming around to implementing more of them again, after it looked like most of them would be gone for good. But we'll only know once it's done.

Yeah, but that's excatly what I meant by "boring" and "lazy". You just can't write a story like Eve's and then make her join a harem by having some magic tool. The same goes for making guys like Harold disappear or so because he's in the way of having Helen and Yumi at the same time. It totally discounts their story and their characters for no real reason up to the point that DC shouldn't have bothered in the first place.

And that's fine. But at the same time some girls may not like to share, may hate other girls so much that they don't want to share with some specific girls but with others, some may not be compatible for other reasons etc. and I don't see why that shouldn't be as valid as your points.

As said before, the fact alone that some guys are too lazy to save and load a savegame doesn't convince me, personally.

For me this isn't about "realism" but about good and bad writing. At some point it usually simply often becomes so stupid that it's just not worth it anymore and I hope that won't happen to SS.

There is certainly logic in your words, and i agree with it. I wanted to say that you need to use the splitting of stories only in the most extreme cases, when you cannot do without it, and in all the rest, use a single indivisible plot. For example, in the case of Helen and Yumi (as far as i understand, Mia will get us with any choice, right?), although here it is also possible that Harold heroically dies at the hands of bandits and integrity, logic, quality of the story does not suffer, and moreover, this allows the player to get more into the story and hate the villains more. As another example, Eric's story - the main character may well have a relationship with June and Mrs Johnson and you can do without dividing the story into independent paths, because Eric has his orc pipe and geek friends (don't remember their names) with whom he goes on raids in the dungeons.

In general, what want to say is you can write a logical good story without falsehood, without resorting to the "separation" technique. Moreover, the division of the story into different paths may indicate the lack of imagination of the screenwriter and his lack of professionalism and laziness.

 

[nilo96]

Don't forget that in the future the schoolgirl's sex scenes will be more exclusive because they'll be locked behind the dating system.

By the way, one more question: the dating system will assume only separate passage, it will not be possible to meet with several girls?

 

[guilhermelima]

Does anyone know how to resolve language error? I log into the game and activate the translation. The game works normally with the language I activated. When I save and try to load the game, it switches from language to English. Are there any console commands I can use to switch back to the language of my choice? Or is there another way to force the game to leave in my preferred language?
Thanks

 

[j4yj4m]

For example, in the case of Helen and Yumi (as far as i understand, Mia will get us with any choice, right?),

Yes, as far as their current plans seem to go, the schoolgirls are indeed meant to stay available for the dating/prom, so MC can't lock himself out of important characters before that. In their cases we may get different versions/endings of their stories, which is probably what DC hinted at in Annie's case.

although here it is also possible that Harold heroically dies at the hands of bandits and integrity, logic, quality of the story does not suffer, and moreover, this allows the player to get more into the story and hate the villains more. As another example, Eric's story - the main character may well have a relationship with June and Mrs Johnson and you can do without dividing the story into independent paths, because Eric has his orc pipe and geek friends (don't remember their names) with whom he goes on raids in the dungeons.

The problem here is more that it gets strange once it's everybody. Sure, you can have these things happen but it's just a bit sad when every male character in the game except MC is a cuck/looser/nerd/dead/gay/imprisoned/etc.
I do indeed like the fact that for example Sara won't be fuckable without Terry and that it looks like Harold will get a good ending, that Erik will have the possibilty to get his female Erik (June), etc. To me that enhances the writing and adds variety to the game.

By the way, one more question: the dating system will assume only separate passage, it will not be possible to meet with several girls?

Yes and (probably) no. The dating system is meant to be "plugged in" between the end of the schoolgirl stories and their sex scenes. So in for example Roxxy's case you wouldn't go straight to sex after beating Dexter, but MC would have to date her, unlock some smaller scenes to then eventually get her sex scenes and invite her to the prom. While that is happening there are supposed to be deductions if you date several schoolgirls at once.

But I don't think they'll go as far as to actually lock the sex scenes again after MC has unlocked them. I personally wouldn't expect that, except for the prom, maybe.

 

[nilo96]

The problem here is more that it gets strange once it's everybody. Sure, you can have these things happen but it's just a bit sad when every male character in the game except MC is a cuck/looser/nerd/dead/gay/imprisoned/etc.

I am in this completely with you. For example, in the story of Rhonda, it was not necessary to add her mother (I do not remember the name), as this would lead to the need to cucked Earl, and he is a normal dude. It would be better to focus on Rhonda herself and the rescuer than to spray time and energy on other characters. But the developer often sins with this - he introduces a huge number of female characters (which is good in itself), but it turns out that most have only 1-2 scenes, even for the main girls. In the case of Eric, i partially agree, let there be a choice, but hope that there will be no threesome with him - looking at his fat, freckled ass is not the greatest pleasure, and creating such a scene will require a huge amount of time that can be spent more profitably on other girls; Better a threesome with a trans-Eve that would be more interesting.

 

[nilo96]

Yes and (probably) no. The dating system is meant to be "plugged in" between the end of the schoolgirl stories and their sex scenes. So in for example Roxxy's case you wouldn't go straight to sex after beating Dexter, but MC would have to date her, unlock some smaller scenes to then eventually get her sex scenes and invite her to the prom. While that is happening there are supposed to be deductions if you date several schoolgirls at once.

Heck! I thought that after completing the main stories with the girls, it would be possible to take them somewhere on dates, to give suitable gifts, i.e. it will be something like expanding the story of the heroines - new dialogues will appear (we will find out some small, additional details about the heroines), events (for example, taking Eve to a rock concert) and new sex scenes (well, plееееease ). And so it turns out that you have to grind, as in many games "earning points", in order to gain access to what we already have. Nein! Nein! Nein!

 

[srksrk 68]

Does anyone know how to resolve language error? I log into the game and activate the translation. The game works normally with the language I activated. When I save and try to load the game, it switches from language to English. Are there any console commands I can use to switch back to the language of my choice? Or is there another way to force the game to leave in my preferred language?
Thanks

Incest patch does not work together with translations.

 

[exazubi]

Yes, as far as their current plans seem to go, the schoolgirls are indeed meant to stay available for the dating/prom, so MC can't lock himself out of important characters before that. In their cases we may get different versions/endings of their stories, which is probably what DC hinted at in Annie's case.


The problem here is more that it gets strange once it's everybody. Sure, you can have these things happen but it's just a bit sad when every male character in the game except MC is a cuck/looser/nerd/dead/gay/imprisoned/etc.
I do indeed like the fact that for example Sara won't be fuckable without Terry and that it looks like Harold will get a good ending, that Erik will have the possibilty to get his female Erik (June), etc. To me that enhances the writing and adds variety to the game.


Yes and (probably) no. The dating system is meant to be "plugged in" between the end of the schoolgirl stories and their sex scenes. So in for example Roxxy's case you wouldn't go straight to sex after beating Dexter, but MC would have to date her, unlock some smaller scenes to then eventually get her sex scenes and invite her to the prom. While that is happening there are supposed to be deductions if you date several schoolgirls at once.

But I don't think they'll go as far as to actually lock the sex scenes again after MC has unlocked them. I personally wouldn't expect that, except for the prom, maybe.

I also don't think so that the existing scenes will be locked again. or at least I hope so. rather, it should be such that there is a wild finale with every girl at the prom. Who knows, maybe we can finally get Roxxy pregnant

It will be interesting how the final is designed in general. Does every girl really lead to a final and thus to a separate end of the game? In this case we would be doomed to keep playing the game over and over to really see all the scenes. But it is possible. There are already routes where you have to decide. Or is the prom made as a repeatable event that you can have again and again and decide differently every time? That would correspond to the character of a sandbox game.

 

[srksrk 68]

Yes, as far as their current plans seem to go, the schoolgirls are indeed meant to stay available for the dating/prom, so MC can't lock himself out of important characters before that. In their cases we may get different versions/endings of their stories, which is probably what DC hinted at in Annie's case.


The problem here is more that it gets strange once it's everybody. Sure, you can have these things happen but it's just a bit sad when every male character in the game except MC is a cuck/looser/nerd/dead/gay/imprisoned/etc.
I do indeed like the fact that for example Sara won't be fuckable without Terry and that it looks like Harold will get a good ending, that Erik will have the possibilty to get his female Erik (June), etc. To me that enhances the writing and adds variety to the game.


Yes and (probably) no. The dating system is meant to be "plugged in" between the end of the schoolgirl stories and their sex scenes. So in for example Roxxy's case you wouldn't go straight to sex after beating Dexter, but MC would have to date her, unlock some smaller scenes to then eventually get her sex scenes and invite her to the prom. While that is happening there are supposed to be deductions if you date several schoolgirls at once.

But I don't think they'll go as far as to actually lock the sex scenes again after MC has unlocked them. I personally wouldn't expect that, except for the prom, maybe.

I would not be very happy with a game that locks me out of half of the best scenes.

But hey, there are still mods...

 

[j4yj4m]

I am in this completely with you. For example, in the story of Rhonda, it was not necessary to add her mother (I do not remember the name), as this would lead to the need to cucked Earl, and he is a normal dude. It would be better to focus on Rhonda herself and the rescuer than to spray time and energy on other characters. But the developer often sins with this - he introduces a huge number of female characters (which is good in itself), but it turns out that most have only 1-2 scenes, even for the main girls.

That's a valid thing to say, but it looks like DC wants to have this "lively town" full of characters and not one that's 100% tailored just to serve the story.
It's not very effective, but I think it makes the game different and indeed "better" compared to many others.

In the case of Eric, i partially agree, let there be a choice, but hope that there will be no threesome with him - looking at his fat, freckled ass is not the greatest pleasure, and creating such a scene will require a huge amount of time that can be spent more profitably on other girls; Better a threesome with a trans-Eve that would be more interesting.

I mean, Erik's threesome with MC and Mrs. Johnson is already in the game right now and I don't think they'll remove that arc for good.

Heck! I thought that after completing the main stories with the girls, it would be possible to take them somewhere on dates, to give suitable gifts, i.e. it will be something like expanding the story of the heroines - new dialogues will appear (we will find out some small, additional details about the heroines), events (for example, taking Eve to a rock concert) and new sex scenes (well, plееееease ).

That's basically what's going to happen. After all, that's what all the new locations (bar, stadium, arcade, house in the woods, museum, etc.) are for.

And so it turns out that you have to grind, as in many games "earning points", in order to gain access to what we already have. Nein! Nein! Nein!

I doubt it'll be a real grind. Visit the right, individual locations, chose the right actions, get the right gifts and I'd guess you'd need 5 or dates or so max to get it done. And you'll possibly get the hand/blow/boobjobs, etc. which are now missing for the schoolgirls on the way, too.

rather, it should be such that there is a wild finale with every girl at the prom.

That chance does indeed seem quite low. DC did promise a beachhouse harem though, where you can invite fitting girls for a sleepover and get some threesomes or so.

Who knows, maybe we can finally get Roxxy pregnant

That's certainly going to happen once she gets her next update.

It will be interesting how the final is designed in general. Does every girl really lead to a final and thus to a separate end of the game? In this case we would be doomed to keep playing the game over and over to really see all the scenes. But it is possible. There are already routes where you have to decide. Or is the prom made as a repeatable event that you can have again and again and decide differently every time? That would correspond to the character of a sandbox game.

It's pure speculation but I'd guess that the prom may (at least officially) "end" that specific playthrough with one final prom sex scene and some final dialog for each girl.
I think it's always nice if a game has at least one way to "complete" it. I'd much rather prefer this than having some kind of "time limit" or indeed no real ending at all.

I would be surprised though if you couldn't just keep playing after that... at least I don't see a reason why they shouldn't allow that.

I would not be very happy with a game that locks me out of half of the best scenes.

But hey, there are still mods...

I mean, 50% is certainly a bit much. Right now it looks like the choices will only apply to some of the main arcs. So you could access like 95% of the content anway.

But yeah, that's what mods are for.

 

[nilo96]

But hey, there are still mods...

By the way, thank you very much for your mod, it really dramatically improves the quality of many aspects of the game.

 

[nilo96]

That's basically what's going to happen. After all, that's what all the new locations (bar, stadium, arcade, house in the woods, museum, etc.) are for.

It calms down a bit.

I mean, Erik's threesome with MC and Mrs. Johnson is already in the game right now and I don't think they'll remove that arc for good.

I mean, 50% is certainly a bit much. Right now it looks like the choices will only apply to some of the main arcs. So you could access like 95% of the content anway.

The choice is needed, of course, but in my opinion, while it was 100% necessary only in the history of Eve.

 

[guilhermelima]

Incest patch does not work together with translations.

Thank you! I tested it now and it worked. The patch incest in this game would help or will I be able to play normally even without it? If so, then I play in English and delete the translation.

 

[_GreekGodX_]

yo bro we need more helen content bro i dont get why shes slept on

 

[srksrk 68]

Thank you! I tested it now and it worked. The patch incest in this game would help or will I be able to play normally even without it? If so, then I play in English and delete the translation.

Well that's pure logic to be applied here. The game is in English originally. So is the incest patch. How would you expect to have a translation pack and the incest patch work at the same time? If you want incest in your favorite language, someone has to incestify your translation pack, simple as that.

And certainly the game works perfectly without the incest patch. You will have no incest then, sure. If you want incest, dont use the translation.

 

[MxrKuSh]

i'm confused with the incest patches, can anyone instruct me which to download and what to do please ? ty