Bruh hasn't it been like half a year since last update and this is all they did? Maybe it hasn't been half a year idk but its been many months at least.
Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]
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NLTMedia has half the patreons and pumps out high quality animations (which do take a lot of time even if they are in 3d) with more complex game mechanics, just finished thier game and have started a new one.
If you have $70,000 per month in funding "our 1 artist cant draw all the assets fast enough" isn't a very good excuse. Hire someone with that money. Also if you look at the progress bars on the website you can see that art isnt even the thing that is holding up development, it's usually one of the first bars to fill. Case and point these mini updates that just add a few extra animations but not much else.
- Feb 20, 2021
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I'd say there are as many 2d games as 3d and quite a few are finished. Good Girl Gone Bad is top tier, and it's complete. Melty's Quest is great. Milky Touch is solid. Taffy Tales, What a Legend, and Love & Sex Second Base, are not done, but have lots of content, and I'd rate them all over Summertime Saga. Seeds of Chaos, Third Crisis, Paradise Lust, and Space Rescue Code Pink are also good 2d games. Also Confined With Goddesses, and Tabletop Pornstar are solid, not to mention the huge pile of JAVNs that are 2d as well. When this game started it was pretty unique, but it has lots of competition now.
I wouldnt say there are that many completed "2dcg"/handdrawn games, but still alot of them have more content and more frequent updates then Summertime AND less funding. Like sirens domain.. finished like 2 games in summertimes life span, and hes working on like 3 others right now, with steady updates... Sexnote is a kinda similar to the story and animation and whatelse... and they manage to pump out frequent updates and also tech updates with some major added sex scenes/story.
Also if you would drag all the japanese hentai games in to the mix there alot of those that are completed... tough they are pretty short and mostly visual novels.
AND you could add NLT media games. Still they are 3d but from what ive seen those games have unique models and really great animations with a big story and they have published like 2,3 games in ST lifespan
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so it seems the new scenes are in the middle of previous paths. So do I have to start over to unlock them? My save didn't rollback, and I have no goals on the phone
- Dec 17, 2020
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- Mar 2, 2019
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Start new game -> "New Content mode".
- Feb 22, 2018
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Last "update" was October
Still hand-drawn vs 3D models. And NLT updates are 5-10 mins of gameplay each. He has 2-3 PCs rendering them 24/7, vs DC doing all by hand mostly on daily stream. Not comparable.
Wanna compare equally ? "Not a Legend" is the only game in here with hand-drawn everything made by 2 people which still takes 4-5 months per update vs Summertime made by ~5 dudes per every 4-5 months
Yeah, sure, it's years now that everyone knows that thing is dead in the water.
What significant changes have happened in the last 3 years?
- Mar 2, 2019
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The full Main Story, Eves story, Jenny Story rewamp. And like 15 other scenes, some pregnancies and Holiday updates in between. Just so you can check yourself the first update that is in the 3 years mark is 0.18.0
That really doesn't matter though when the guy is getting almost $78k per month (minus patreon fees). He should be able to afford a small team of full time workers coding and drawing 5 days a week and pump out updates double this size every month. The drawn animations aren't so blindingly high quality that they take almost a month to draw each scene.
- Aug 25, 2017
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A team of artists doesn't work all that well in a hand-drawn game with a somewhat unique style.
Then again, I don't think the art is usually the bottleneck so that's neither here nor there.
Here is a reality check for you, hes not going to, because Patreons are happy to pay at the current rate for 4 years. why lessen the money you make? Meanwhile i'm a pirate and not paying so not gunna complain.
v0.20.8 (25-Mar-2021) vs. v0.20.13 (20-Feb-2022)
A steady ~30k / mo. patreons providing ~$75k / mo => 11 mo. paid with a total of ~$825.000.
Raw differences in image payload between the 2 versions (this covers all 3 pre-tech updates): 1020 new files (56 MB), 17676 same or practically identical (883 MB) (thousands of files are re-written from their original .psd format and have slightly different binaries but the images are practically unchanged).
So $825k yielded +5.77% images (artwork) (+6.34% in size) on top of 5 years of development instead of the min. 20% that would've been fair considering the income at year 5 could've provided a lot more manhours vs. income from earlier years.
I won't even bother diffing the .rpy scripts. It's crystal clear. The difference in missing output will be nowhere to be found in the magical tech update. It was just $ straight to pocket for DC.
If DC would've been paid on delivery, the switch to 16:9 would've been made strictly behind the scenes in a few weeks TOPS, by a competent developer which he has more than enough $ to hire even just for this one job. All the artwork already done would've still appeared in the 4:3 layout and anything new would've been 16:9. Over time more and more content would've been switched to 16:9.
Yo, patreons! You're paying to get fucked and these releases are the lube! Enjoy, 'cause the only way it'll stop is when you stop the free $$$!
A steady ~30k / mo. patreons providing ~$75k / mo => 11 mo. paid with a total of ~$825.000.
Raw differences in image payload between the 2 versions (this covers all 3 pre-tech updates): 1020 new files (56 MB), 17676 same or practically identical (883 MB) (thousands of files are re-written from their original .psd format and have slightly different binaries but the images are practically unchanged).
So $825k yielded +5.77% images (artwork) (+6.34% in size) on top of 5 years of development instead of the min. 20% that would've been fair considering the income at year 5 could've provided a lot more manhours vs. income from earlier years.
I won't even bother diffing the .rpy scripts. It's crystal clear. The difference in missing output will be nowhere to be found in the magical tech update. It was just $ straight to pocket for DC.
If DC would've been paid on delivery, the switch to 16:9 would've been made strictly behind the scenes in a few weeks TOPS, by a competent developer which he has more than enough $ to hire even just for this one job. All the artwork already done would've still appeared in the 4:3 layout and anything new would've been 16:9. Over time more and more content would've been switched to 16:9.
Yo, patreons! You're paying to get fucked and these releases are the lube! Enjoy, 'cause the only way it'll stop is when you stop the free $$$!
- Mar 2, 2019
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No need to. It is fine to use. no lines that would affect it are changed.Please update your i-patch for ver. 0.20.13!!
You are wrong there, Art is usually the bottleneck. Every other update Art was the problem because DC draws everything by himself. The Tech Update Art is NOT the problem. The coding or specificly the posing is the bottleneck now. DC already drew stuff for the R(h)onda update.
- Aug 25, 2017
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Unless you're his accountant I don't understand why you're so hung up on the financial side.
It's not your money and not your decision how people spend their cash. Not to mention that this is a piracy site and clearly not the place to educate patrons on how their monthly contribution is wasted.
Maybe stick to just complaining about the glacial development speed, that's depressing enough.
- Sep 17, 2018
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- Mar 13, 2019
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I don't believe it. This Dev earns.. fck a lot of money. And he provides us with... very little ''content'' and funny updates like this one.
There are other Devs who deserve to earn this much. And they do a lot more content every month. And here? nothing but a disappointment.
There are other Devs who deserve to earn this much. And they do a lot more content every month. And here? nothing but a disappointment.