Badjourasmix

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Didn't play the last update and will not play this either. This used to be one of my favorite games in this forum but now I just can't bring myself to play it. Maybe when he releases the Rhonda update I'll try this again, but that probably won't come out until next year.
 
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nilo_96

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Guys!!! Switch on your brains!!! Please don't destroy the last crumbs of my faith in humanity! :p
A few months ago, I wrote here that it is possible (i emphasize - "POSSIBLE") the situation will be changed by a sharp decline in donations, but I was accused of "lack of logic" by some especially gifted among the underdeveloped. Of course, this is super logical, when you have an employee who constantly messes up, misses deadlines, periodically lies right in your eyes, then you need to increase his salary and think "i'll believe him one more time, because he promised, he can't be so shameless".
 

randomguy6516265165

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Guys!!! Switch on your brains!!! Please don't destroy the last crumbs of my faith in humanity! :p
A few months ago, I wrote here that it is possible (i emphasize - "POSSIBLE") the situation will be changed by a sharp decline in donations, but I was accused of "lack of logic" by some especially gifted among the underdeveloped. Of course, this is super logical, when you have an employee who constantly messes up, misses deadlines, periodically lies right in your eyes, then you need to increase his salary and think "i'll believe him one more time, because he promised, he can't be so shameless".
if the "debbie getting raped by the gangsters" scene you wrote above appears on the game you can expect a huge decline on the income and player base I bet otherwise I doubt it
 

nilo_96

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if the "debbie getting raped by the gangsters" scene you wrote above appears on the game you can expect a huge decline on the income and player base I bet otherwise I doubt it
Not at all necessary. After all, you can always make this scene "optional" and there will always be shit-eaters who will justify it:
1) The game gives you a choice, if you don't want to, don't choose this option.
2) The game would not be complete without adding a scene like this.
3) DC artist, creator, genius (Kojima quietly rests aside) and a creature with a fine mental organization and a rich inner world is his vision, his game, he does what he wants, he does not owe anything to anyone (although he lives off the donations of thousands patrons).
 
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Omnikuken

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Why exactly are we arguing about an imaginary scene that nobody wants to see and the dev never even hinted at?
"We" being that 1 dude talking to himself that he found the way through DC's lies and figured out all the hidden stuff DC keeps hiding from Patreon
I'm stuck at the end of day 4, can't go to sleep because "have something to do", but nothing to do in any place, I'm missing something or it's a know bug?
Day 4 means nothing in a sandbox game with 20+ routes you can do in random order from the start
is pregnancy planned for all the womans in this game?
Yes, every girl MC can dick will get preg once their route/remake is done
 

ImTransAndTiny

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I don't expect rape to ever be included in this game. It's not that kind of game! Killing gangsters was already out of character, and I think that's the absolute boundary for Summertime Saga. This is a "wholesome", mainstream, vanilla porn game.
 

WackedWu

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File "game/scripts/characters/odette/scene/blowjob.rpy", line 165, in <module> .......... And then you can't go any further ....... have to restart the game
 

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File "game/scripts/characters/odette/scene/blowjob.rpy", line 165, in <module> .......... And then you can't go any further ....... have to restart the game
Wherever there are variants for a scene, the fools people who develop this game do something like this:

Code:
    $ renpy.dynamic(variants=persistent.cookie_jar['Odette']['variants']['04_unlocked'])

    if len(variants) > 1:
        scene expression background(l=L_tattooparlor_roof, t=3) with fade
        menu:
            "Roof (Topless)" if 'roof' in variants:
                jump scene_odette_blowjob.roof

            "Sugar Tats" if 'shop' in variants:
                jump scene_odette_blowjob.shop
    else:

        jump expression 'scene_odette_blowjob.{}'.format(next(iter(variants)))

    return
It should be impossible to unlock Odette scene 4 without unlocking any of the variants. It is impossible if you unlocked it by playing the game! But if you unlocked it some other way, then it's possible to unlock the scene without any of the variants.

The code above creates a list of all of the variants that you've unlocked and, if the length of the list is greater than 1, it lets you choose which one you want to see. If it's not greater than 1, it assumes that the length is 1 and passes that 1 to line 165:

jump expression 'scene_odette_blowjob.{}'.format(next(iter(variants)))

But you can't assume that length is 1! This causes the game to crash if the length is 0! You have to either create an exception handler for that possibility or, more intelligently, change it so that it tests for 1 or not 1. This is how the code should be:


Code:
    $ renpy.dynamic(variants=persistent.cookie_jar['Odette']['variants']['04_unlocked'])

    if len(variants) == 1:
        jump expression 'scene_odette_blowjob.{}'.format(next(iter(variants)))
    else:
        scene expression background(l=L_tattooparlor_roof, t=3) with fade
        menu:
            "Roof (Topless)":
                jump scene_odette_blowjob.roof

            "Sugar Tats":
                jump scene_odette_blowjob.shop
    return
Then things don't fuck up if length == 0.

TL;DR: You unlocked the scene in an unexpected way, and the coders didn't follow best practices to prevent an exception occurring if the variant iterator was empty. I've reported this foolishness on Discord, but the one I reported previously wasn't fixed. File a bug report.

Edit: I've reported the bug on Discord again.
 
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randomguy6516265165

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I don't expect rape to ever be included in this game. It's not that kind of game! Killing gangsters was already out of character, and I think that's the absolute boundary for Summertime Saga. This is a "wholesome", mainstream, vanilla porn game.
pretty much now getting back at the gangsters by fucking their wife or mothers would be more on the "line" I think XD
 

Omnikuken

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Wherever there are variants for a scene, the fools people who develop this game do something like this:

Code:
    $ renpy.dynamic(variants=persistent.cookie_jar['Odette']['variants']['04_unlocked'])

    if len(variants) > 1:
        scene expression background(l=L_tattooparlor_roof, t=3) with fade
        menu:
            "Roof (Topless)" if 'roof' in variants:
                jump scene_odette_blowjob.roof

            "Sugar Tats" if 'shop' in variants:
                jump scene_odette_blowjob.shop
    else:

        jump expression 'scene_odette_blowjob.{}'.format(next(iter(variants)))

    return
It should be impossible to unlock Odette scene 4 without unlocking any of the variants. It is impossible if you unlocked it by playing the game! But if you unlocked it some other way, then it's possible to unlock the scene without any of the variants.

The code above creates a list of all of the variants that you've unlocked and, if the length of the list is greater than 1, it lets you choose which one you want to see. If it's not greater than 1, it assumes that the length is 1 and passes that 1 to line 165:

jump expression 'scene_odette_blowjob.{}'.format(next(iter(variants)))

But you can't assume that length is 1! This causes the game to crash if the length is 0! You have to either create an exception handler for that possibility or, more intelligently, change it so that it tests for 1 or not 1. This is how the code should be:


Code:
    $ renpy.dynamic(variants=persistent.cookie_jar['Odette']['variants']['04_unlocked'])

    if len(variants) == 1:
        jump expression 'scene_odette_blowjob.{}'.format(next(iter(variants)))
    else:
        scene expression background(l=L_tattooparlor_roof, t=3) with fade
        menu:
            "Roof (Topless)":
                jump scene_odette_blowjob.roof

            "Sugar Tats":
                jump scene_odette_blowjob.shop
    return
Then things don't fuck up if length= 0.

TL;DR: You unlocked the scene in an unexpected way, and the coders didn't follow best practices to prevent an exception occurring if the variant iterator was empty. I've reported this foolishness on Discord, but the one I reported wasn't fixed. File a bug report.
Not trying to call out BS, but the dude you quoted might have used the OP unlocker (which is known to be pure trash and will bug out everything in the gallery) or the phone unlock and it somehow messed up his game. Code is indeed a mess, but if only 1 dude in the thread fucks up 1 scene, it might be a "him" problem
 
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ImTransAndTiny

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Not trying to call out BS, but the dude you quoted might have used the OP unlocker (which is known to be pure trash and will bug out everything in the gallery) or the phone unlock and it somehow messed up his game. Code is indeed a mess, but if only 1 dude in the thread fucks up 1 scene, it might be a "him" problem
That's almost certainly what they did, but it still shouldn't have crashed the game! Good programmers use best practices. You should never call next() on an iterator unless you're sure that you aren't at the end of it, or you've included an exception handler.
 

Omnikuken

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That's almost certainly what they did, but it still shouldn't have crashed the game! Good programmers use best practices. You should never call next() on an iterator unless you're sure that you aren't at the end of it, or you've included an exception handler.
The unlocker changes the code though, so it might not be DC's gang's fault. You never know though
 
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ImTransAndTiny

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The unlocker changes the code though, so it might not be DC's gang's fault. You never know though
I guess that's possible, but I can say that the way it's done now isn't the right way. My programming professors would have docked huge marks for writing my code like that. It might have been enough to turn a good mark into a fail.
 

Joop501

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Summertime saga seems like I read it here
more to 1 mathematical problem behavior
just play the game and enjoy please you are in your way
 

Count Morado

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how to get jenny's new two seans ? did't find ans anywhere.
Jenny doesn't have new scenes in the current update. If you are talking about from previous updates, it might be best for you to look at the Wiki linked from the OP or ask in the walkthrough/playthrough thread that is also linked from the OP.

You might also want to be a bit more specific - such as the last time you played (what version or approximate date) to give people more information in order to be of better assistance.
 
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About half the people here don't seem to understand: complaining here does nothing but fan flames of entitlement in this thread. The development team never makes their presence known in this thread. Dark Cookie stopped by once many moons ago for a few posts and was never seen here again.

If you think complaining here, or offering suggestions, or asking when is the next update - any of it - is read by anyone on the dev team. You are wrong.

Complaining here is just a daisy chain of bitching.

If you want to leave suggestions, ask about update timelines, or offer criticism and want the best chance to be seen ... join the chat during one of the times that Dark Cookie streams on Picarto, or chat in the official Discord, or - if you are one of the 0.01% who contribute money - on the Patreon comments.

You do have the ability to complain here - but it does nothing to change anything. If you are complaining just to complain - we ain't got time for that. If you are complaining to attempt change - go where you have a better chance of making that happen.

If you want to know about the patch, 100% save, what scenes were updated in v0.20.13 - see here.

Until then, let's chat about who's got the best ass in the game. :BootyTime:
I always thought Dark cookie did post here, just under a different name. There's always the same guy here who gets very mad and writes entire paragraphs defending Dark Cookie almost every day, i refuse anyone is that much of a simp to some random guy he doesn't know, but the Milfy City creator having many simps still defending him after he abandons every single game he's worked on has surprised me.
 
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