What sucks more is any project is only as complete as it's worst bottleneck. Since code is 54%, it is safe to say we have a long way to go. Even if everything else finishes to 100% in the next month, the timeline won't change since code is still just over half complete. Will probably be a lot of small scene updates for a while but hey, better than nothing. A lot of dev's don't even do that much when there are delays.I feel you bro. I am tired of the arguing everyday in this thread. It's sad, really.
by the way in other news..
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I never acted like it's mostly correct. What actually happen is you got annoyed over a differing opinion. Again you are welcome to disagree with me. Personally I don't care though. I'd say the game is around 90% and that everything that's not there currently is supplementary to what we already have, espically since most of the characters that don't content aren't that popular in the first place. So yes the game is mostly complete
I think what's a lot worse is you getting bent out of shape because you can't believe people on this thread have a different opinion. Also this game had the whole dead dad plot since around the beginning of the game's development.
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Now you're moving the goal line.
Wow, we've hit a personal sore spot for you, haven't we?
For the dance to be finished:
- Create an "ask your favorite waifu" screen
- Only NPCs which the player has completed all content available at this time (or certain content available) can be chosen
- Must have earned enough $$$ for tux, car, dinner, tickets to the dance
There are a good number of characters in the cookie jar that weren't in the original plan and DC continues to add new NPCs because their fanbase wants more and he enjoys what he is doing. Saying that those are part of the original plan is not the full truth. The routes left open for expansion are just that - they can be done after the game is declared "complete"... in expansion updates.
This is the flipside argument to the people who say "6 years in development and not completed ... hur dur." The day the game gets a complete tag is when DC is tired of working on the project and wants to move on. Not a day before and probably not a day after. It could be tomorrow. It could be 20 years from now. It's not going to be because he's checked off all the boxes that he made on day one.
However, this "the game is not mostly completed" retort offers a similar denial. Will there continue to be content? Yes. Will DC continue to add NPCs? Yes. Will DC modify layouts, update the code, change display ratios, develop the game for other platforms? If the need arises and the opportunity allows - Yes. However, that said - the main content is complete and very little is needed for the dance to be implemented (one update, maybe two?). Everything else is added value, supplemental, and because patreons want to see more and DC is enjoying what he does.
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I'm arguing for the sake of arguing, I know. But I'm not sure where I'm annoyed or bent out of shape.
Literally how? And the irony that this is coming from you too.
What irony? I'm the one that keep saying you can disagree. Sorry if I'm being rude here but I honestly don't care. We all have opinions. I just don't care for the fact you need to call be back to the thread just to insist that my opinion is wrong.
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Please. You're taking this personal. And you're saying you aren't "annoyed or bent out of shape" does not change the perception that the tone of your writing gives that impression in this conversation.
As for the irony - take that as you wish. I can see how someone might think that. But the irony goes both ways -- you're riding this one trick pony pretty far.
EDIT: Since we're here, anyway...
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All of you are equally annoying. Just hoping another batch of scenes drops soon so the dickriders and milk boys can take a break to coom. Goodness.
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Guys, I want to ask because I saw a lot of fan-made and some say it's in the game, so here's my question: Did Tony sleep with Dianne? NTR? I hope I'm wrong.
There is no ntr at all in the game and that's super out of character for both of them.
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I'm not even sure why we are having this dicussion about the game being done. The game does have an official, detailed roadmap for patrons for many years, which looks like this:
I don't have access to the most recent version (edit: see Hero1's post below), but everybody can be sure that the game won't be considered done, before that roadmap is more or less finished - give or take a few details, of course. That's really all there is to say. It's not about opinions, takes or taste, but simply about what DC promised for years.
The game is realistically little more than half way done content-wise (given that there's still a lot to rework which isn't included in the number you see above) and every other suggestion may be an opinion, but isn't really based in reality.
I'm not even sure why we are having this dicussion about the game being done. The game does have an official, detailed roadmap for patrons for many years, which looks like this:
I don't have access to the most recent version (edit: see Hero1's post below), but everybody can be sure that the game won't be considered done, before that roadmap is more or less finished - give or take a few details, of course. That's really all there is to say. It's not about opinions, takes or taste, but simply about what DC promised for years.
The game is realistically little more than half way done content-wise (given that there's still a lot to rework which isn't included in the number you see above) and every other suggestion may be an opinion, but isn't really based in reality.
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That screenshot should be before the last part of the main story, since that's the only thing that's different from the current roadmap:
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So first your tag didn't work and second even looking at this it's mostly minor stuff, mostly technical. Two secondary storylines havent been started. Some extra details to some of the already existing scenes. Everything else is technical. There are no major characters who are missing content, pretty much all the locations are there. Besides Ronda who else is left that people really care about. So yeah it's still mostly done.
So yeah I still consider it mostly done. I dont really get why you are so stressed about the idea that. Isn't the fact that the main stuff is finished a good thing? Trying to rush to the defense claim that it's not mostly done is weird espically when everyone complaining about milking. It just seems like you are annoyed there is no prom storyline even though I don't think that many people care at all about it.
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I don't have anything to add to my post, honestly. If you think you know better than the DC's own roadmap, that's fine.
You are essentailly the one claiming that a house is done just because the walls are up and the roof is water tight. Yes, that technically may be the case, but you can be sure that's neither what the architect planned, nor what the customer who wanted a complete house ordered.
Or to state my opinion: The game is about ~50% done right now and there's still a lot to do for DC.
Seriously don't get why you are being defensive. Yes I'd say a house is mostly done if the walls, roof, and pluming are good and all that's left to do is add paint. Because based on your own roadmap map that's basically it. The majorty of the missing content is not new scenes or storylines but rather technical things and new dialouge. Just seems weird to me to get defensive. I know you are looking forward to the prom storyline but I seriously don't tink 80% of the player base cares about it
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I'm not beeing defensive at all. I'm just wondering why you are arguing against everything DC himself is saying (for years) and against his official roadmap. I kind of respect that you are defending your very unique judgement, but I really don't agree with any of your arguments.
Dude you brought a road map to try to claim it's not half way done after insisting a prom plot, which was only mentioned briefly in the intro and never again, was more important than the main storyline of the game itself. That seems pretty defensive. Of course i'd say a game was mostly done after the main story is finish i'd say it;s the same for any game. If you actually bothered to look that road map you'd see that there really isn't much to add besides technical details. Most of the characters have routes .The primary storyline is done. Everything else is literally just add a pregnancy option and rework old scenes and add some mini games.
It's fine if the dev has more stuff planned and they arent statisfied. But I cant think ofwhy any reasonable person wouldn't think the game is mostly done if they played what's already there. Sorry I ust don't consider minor characters to be important when i look at completion value.
I'm comparing this to a regular video game. Like if this was skyrim. The main story is done and all that's left to do is add in a few side quest and dungeons around to world so you aren't bored. The developer might not be satisficed but it's fine for the casual gamer. I also don't think DC is constantly insisting that this isn't done just that they arent satisfied with the current level of work
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Because I've been following this game from close to the beginning and I know that the main story was basically "just another update" for DC and really nothing out of the ordinary. You are the one who are claiming that it's something big, when it really isn't and wasn't intended to be.
And that's fine. I just don't agree with you in this case. Simple, right?
If you had bothered to actually understand the roadmap, you'd see how much work is in there. We are talking about full stories for Ronda, Judith and Annie, about complete, full reworks of Mia, Erik, Debbie and the teachers stories. Of addons to Diane's and Roxxy's story, etc.
And that's before we are starting to talk about dating, the prom and technical stuff.
Any reasonable person would expect the things to be added which have been promised. You don't stop when you've technically delivered something that's somehow feasible, claiming you've done it.
You are actually the one who is arguing with some kind of "cutting corners" mentality for what ever reason.
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