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How is it possible that after so long without a decent update this guy still has 27k+ patreon subs? Are people just too lazy to stop their $1 pledge?
I believe is a loop... A lot of people stops paying the patreon but at the same time a lot of new players discovers the game and see that you can "support" with only one buck without knowing the actual status of the development, they pay and then they see the reality and there is no other remedy that to wait to your pay month to finish....

DC found himself in a cycle of "eternal" income product of the ignorance of new players (that's why I believe he hardly make a status update).
 

kofu

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Hey, how do you get the Achievement "Long lost father"? The father's already in jail; do I need him to be free in order to get it?
6 years later but still gonna answer.
You have to do it right after Larry get arrested and ask you to say a few words to Erik, go on Erik's house on the mailbox and read the letter.
 

dkatryl

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May 26, 2018
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DC found himself in a cycle of "eternal" income product of the ignorance of new players (that's why I believe he hardly make a status update).
I think another major factor that often gets overlooked is simply the timing of when SS was released. It was one of the earlier Ren'py games out there and had the benefit of having not as many options.

If it was released more recently, say at the same time as a comparable game in style and development/release cycle tims, What a Legend, then it would probably be much closer in Patron numbers.
 

emixam2005

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The loading bar has dropped to 75% but I also see that the loading bar of the "art" part also dropped while being at 100% before.
I gues that means DC want to ask even more content for the "who knows when" coming uptate.
Which might of course increase the workload and so delay again the release date.

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As if it was not a nightmare already ^^'
 

Green83rry

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I believe is a loop... A lot of people stops paying the patreon but at the same time a lot of new players discovers the game and see that you can "support" with only one buck without knowing the actual status of the development, they pay and then they see the reality and there is no other remedy that to wait to your pay month to finish....

DC found himself in a cycle of "eternal" income product of the ignorance of new players (that's why I believe he hardly make a status update).
The loading bar has dropped to 75% but I also see that the loading bar of the "art" part also dropped while being at 100% before.
I gues that means DC want to ask even more content for the "who knows when" coming uptate.
Which might of course increase the workload and so delay again the release date.

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As if it was not a nightmare already ^^'
Ah yes. The cycle continues...
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TwoHeavens

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How is it possible that after so long without a decent update this guy still has 27k+ patreon subs? Are people just too lazy to stop their $1 pledge?
Id bet a good amount of his supporters are people who forgot about it. Ive seen much smaller devs who have basically been completely silent for years still making hundreds of dollars a month from people who just forget about it. If patreon made patrons confirm their subscription every couple of months these scamming devs would actually have incentive to update their games. But I doubt that will ever happen. The whole business model of patreon is pretty anti consumer to begin with.
 

dkatryl

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Id bet a good amount of his supporters are people who forgot about it. Ive seen much smaller devs who have basically been completely silent for years still making hundreds of dollars a month from people who just forget about it. If patreon made patrons confirm their subscription every couple of months these scamming devs would actually have incentive to update their games. But I doubt that will ever happen. The whole business model of patreon is pretty anti consumer to begin with.
Considering Patreon gets x% off every $, it's in their financial interest to let zombie subs continue indefinitely.
 

itsyeboii

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I believe is a loop... A lot of people stops paying the patreon but at the same time a lot of new players discovers the game and see that you can "support" with only one buck without knowing the actual status of the development, they pay and then they see the reality and there is no other remedy that to wait to your pay month to finish....

DC found himself in a cycle of "eternal" income product of the ignorance of new players (that's why I believe he hardly make a status update).
So I'm not going to agree with you because I simply don't know if it is deliberate or just negligent. But this has been bothering me since the tech-update became an indefinite shit show; his website and Patreon remain as if everything is according to plan, when the game has been stagnant for years without an end in sight.

His website says you can donate and contribute to development, his Patreon says "the more pledges, the more time he can spend on this game", and additionally that by paying a small fee you get the latest version of the game, implying only the outdated version is free to play.

I think it's unethical to mislead people into subscribing to you, whether its on purpose or not. He should really update his info or at the very least not advertise his Patreon as "donations help progress the game" when that hasn't been applicable for years.
 

Ebet Ebety

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I have to confess I'm kinda loving this gig. I mean it's been years since I've given a cent to the project, but every time I check back in to the the update site or this thread, every couple of months ot so, I always get heaps of entertainment.
The memes here are F ing hilarious and each time I take a look at the progress bar I piss myself laughing. Darth Cookie is an endless source of unintended fun :ROFLMAO:
 

Ataman87

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Ive said it a thousand times - the irony is that the only way for this sorry ass game development to speed up is for the dev to start losing money. But with these brainless fanboys that wont happen. They will wait till The Second coming , as long as the dev feed them some "news" and a few posters. Well its theirs money they can spend it how they want.
 

Count Morado

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Ive said it a thousand times - the irony is that the only way for this sorry ass game development to speed up is for the dev to start losing money. But with these brainless fanboys that wont happen. They will wait till The Second coming , as long as the dev feed them some "news" and a few posters. Well its theirs money they can spend it how they want.
Feel free to DM the name of three games where a large number of people pulling out their subscriptions have caused a developer to start releasing? People keep proposing this idea - but have never presented any viable proof. That's the true irony.
Unless you stop supporting him he has no reason to finish or update the game , i don't really care since i never been a supporter ..... If you don't get a update out every 2 or 3 months the game is abandoned in my book anyway .
If you stop supporting a developer, they have no reason to continue developing. They have bills to pay... so they quit developing (or take even longer).

Leeching has rarely cured anything.

PS: Again, I've never paid any developer on here - nor received any payments from developers on here. I come here for the purpose of playing games without a paying a penny. That said - if developers can't pay their bills, they aren't going to continue or they are going to reduce their development time even more because they have to work other jobs to pay their bills That is simply common sense.
 
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