Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5258] [Kompas Productions]

[rongngoc123]

Would be fucking awesome we can upgrade the milk farm to something like this:

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What do you guys think?

We thought about this many times but do u think Patreon would let this come true :")

 

[JPatrick]

Yeah... so could you post save files?? for 18.2?? Please??

P.S. Nevermind, I found it

 

[Ungawa]

... are you... are you serious?

Did I stutter?

Star Citizen is often accused of feature creep, of having a design lead who is overly ambitious and who, while being inspired, needs to have someone to rein him in lest he get a little too wild with his plans. Think George Lucas driving the prequels into the ground because he didn't have someone to tell him "No, George, this won't work. Pull it back a little."

That's an understatement since he hasn't released anything but tech demos in the past 8 years along with the complaints of former workers at the project. But that's still very different from DC who has released updates and other things while you're being hyperbolic.

There is actual work being produced, just like there is actual work being produced here. Is it at a rate that satisfies the vast majority of people? No. It is not. But it is difficult to argue that all the time and effort (and thus money) is amounting to the sum all of jack squat? It is. Because something IS coming out of both production houses.

This means fuck all to me. Star Citizen has gotten

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in funds and has spent

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a month. By comparison, GTA 5 cost

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to make a complete game.

That word salad does nothing to point out that Star Citizen vs SS is a baseless comparison and SS has already put out a damn product and different versions. You're making ignorant assumptions that do nothing but spin a negative tale that I'm not buying.

The crux of the issue, however, is "Is enough being done to JUSTIFY the vast expenditure being outlaid into both projects?" and that's where people start going back and forth.

No, YOU'RE making this argument and it's incredibly baseless. This isn't a vast expenditure. It's not an eight year project. There's a road map. There's also a product. You aren't spending $3,000 on microtransactions. I know I can have a big head to Bonk people with but this isn't rocket science.

Summertime Saga is a very big project, and it continues to grow beyond the scope of what it originally was presented as. More to the point, nobody seems at all interested in reining in the scope of that project but instead, the large number of people involved seem to think that continuing to throw more and more money at it will result in a complete and viable game being produced down the line.

The hell are you talking about?

There's been a current roadmap that Patreons show which shows the most immediate stuff you're going to get in each update along with a road map showing which parts are done or not. Yes, the scope is a bit large but it's neither feature creep or mission creep on the scale of Star Citizen. Further, I invest time into the game, not money and haven't since the beginning. You're making another baseless assertion that isn't even looking at the reality of the situation.

Now here's the thing: I would very much like both things to succeed. But both need to be pulled back a bit. Streamlined. And revised for... let's say "practicality." What goals are actually feasible and can be accomplished in a "reasonable" amount of time? Because working with "indefinitely" as your timetable is - and has been - honking a lot of people off.

If you haven't paid attention to Star Citizen and how it's turned into a pyramid scheme over the coarse of 8 years, then I can't help you. But it's incredibly ridiculous to compare that to a small time game that's hand produced with a small team that just lost a coder and think they can shoot miracles out of their ass.

If you want to compare Star Citizen to Duke Nukem and getting that out, fine. Whatever. That's a fair assertion. But you're really pulling my head here when you want to do this nonsense and believe the two games and their scales should really compare.

 

[Valoryn]

It seems there is two mini paths in the Jenny line, one where you are more dominant. In that one I think I read you can break out of the cuffs.

Tsk I made the wrong choices then. I was trying not to antagonize her when I should have. Thanks. I'm restarting the game.

 

[endlust]

That's an understatement since he hasn't released anything but tech demos in the past 8 years along with the complaints of former workers at the project. But that's still very different from DC who has released updates and other things while you're being hyperbolic.


This means fuck all to me. Star Citizen has gotten

You must be registered to see the links

in funds and has spent

You must be registered to see the links

a month. By comparison, GTA 5 cost

You must be registered to see the links

to make a complete game.

That word salad does nothing to point out that Star Citizen vs SS is a baseless comparison and SS has already put out a damn product and different versions. You're making ignorant assumptions that do nothing but spin a negative tale that I'm not buying.


No, YOU'RE making this argument and it's incredibly baseless. This isn't a vast expenditure. It's not an eight year project. There's a road map. There's also a product. You aren't spending $3,000 on microtransactions. I know I can have a big head to Bonk people with but this isn't rocket science.

There's been a current roadmap that Patreons show which shows the most immediate stuff you're going to get in each update along with a road map showing which parts are done or not. Yes, the scope is a bit large but it's neither feature creep or mission creep on the scale of Star Citizen. Further, I invest time into the game, not money and haven't since the beginning. You're making another baseless assertion that isn't even looking at the reality of the situation.


If you haven't paid attention to Star Citizen and how it's turned into a pyramid scheme over the coarse of 8 years, then I can't help you. But it's incredibly ridiculous to compare that to a small time game that's hand produced with a small team that just lost a coder and think they can shoot miracles out of their ass.

If you want to compare Star Citizen to Duke Nukem and getting that out, fine. Whatever. That's a fair assertion. But you're really pulling my head here when you want to do this nonsense and believe the two games and their scales should really compare.

I think the phrase, "can't see the forest for the trees" applies well here. His point wasn't SS is at the same scale as SC. He was pointing put the incredible similarity between the two when you look at their development. It may be 8 years old now, but SC started out small too. The dev was ambitious and shares the passion and zeal for his project that DC does. Like SS, it exploded in popularity and instead of meeting the target release of 2014, its now 2019 and we're still getting updates with no tangible release in sight. SC also has a road map and the benefit of an experienced designer/director.

His point is that SS can quickly turn into this too. It is the largest porn game on patreon and it'll be 3 years old soon without a finished version. I'm a fan. I've played every update without fail and usually give DC the benefit of the doubt when it comes to changes. But the updates are taking longer despite going from one man to a team and core systems still haven't been implemented. For more and more of us, each update reveals the team needs to refocus its priorities because we want this game to succeed as much as DC does. No one wants another SC.

 

[Jay.k]

After saving Crystal from prison i can't proceed story like Seliing Meth because don't have that option and only that this option 'This isridiculous, I know you're Clyde!. I hope someone post latest save files so i can play the game and the last thing is the Goal Tracker only show Hints coming later...

 

[Ghostly Hale]

You're a hater because every single post you have made in this thread has been negative towards the game makers and anyone who likes them.



The scene is coming back with 18.5

Why should I respect a cheat? I'm sorry to any fans who feel hurt by my words. It's your wallet that should be hurting.

 

[UBOLSOBS]

Shesh if you don't want us to be softlocked then do a better walkthrough.
Your walkthrough is too messy to follow.

 

[UBOLSOBS]

What happened to the shovel in this version?
It disappeared.
I see the shovel doesn't show up until you run into Diane,
Weird.

 

[srksrk 68]

We thought about this many times but do u think Patreon would let this come true :")

Are you serious? I think this game is not for you...

 

[srksrk 68]

What happened to the shovel in this version?
It disappeared.

Yes, I am sorry. I have it in my backpack. Should I lend it to you?

 

[j4yj4m]

What happened to the shovel in this version?
It disappeared.

In case you haven't found out yet, it'll only appear after you Diane asks you to get it.

Updates are taking longer and longer to complete anyway and characters' stories could be completed if there was more structure. He could have finished the main story and still added sex scenes for characters while he finished it. As it is currently, there are some core systems/features that will not only permeate every character (dating, main story, pregnancy) but require tweeks and adjustments along the way. DC is trying to squeeze those systems into every girl's story instead of building around them which can lead to confusion/frustration for players.

I'm not sure they'll ever really make huge improvements when it comes to update speed. As long as DC draws alone there's a finite amount of art that can be created and every scene etc. you'd add will increase the time an update needs. I mean, we've had that discussion when DC moved from ~50 to 60 day updates (Mia and Erik) to ~100 to 120 day updates (Jenny took 137) and I think that was a good choice. I'm not really sure wether increasing that number to basically "2 updates per year" would be good for the game. After all there are quite a few people around who can't even wait those 4 months.

 

[steama90]

Guys,I don’t want to bother but walkthrough is not helping me. I am a Mac user and I have downloaded the latest version. I am fucking stuck with roxxy/Jenny path. After I have done the french poem and gave her Pom Pom,she ask help for cheerleading and when I go to Jenny I keep replying “i ll be back when I have money” even if I have. What did I do wrong?? Is that because first I must do the alcohol quest?? Please help me

 

[srksrk 68]

I am fucking stuck with roxxy/Jenny

Ouch, that hurts!



For your problem: can you try talking to Roxxy in the morning when she's at the breakfast table? I heard that there might be a bug when talking to her in her room.

Or you could attach a savegame here, I will try to look into it.

 

[dylan123]

The more DC reworks, the more he ruins the game. Jenny went from a ok character to a bitch, and the animations, while are smother, are worse.
I had fun unpacking the game and comparing the old versions with the new one, I have to say that 5 months of work would be justified only if he worked an hour a day for free, but not for over 50k a month.
Now many characters only have layers with arms, facial expressions, etc. interchangeable, and I don't envy those who have to put them in order, in fact often you see wrong backgrounds etc ..
With this I don't want to create controversy with the players of this game, take it as my personal opinion.
After all, everyone is free to spend their money as they see fit.

 

[Super Galactus]

The more DC reworks, the more he ruins the game. Jenny went from a ok character to a bitch, and the animations, while are smother, are worse.
I had fun unpacking the game and comparing the old versions with the new one, I have to say that 5 months of work would be justified only if he worked an hour a day for free, but not for over 50k a month.
Now many characters only have layers with arms, facial expressions, etc. interchangeable, and I don't envy those who have to put them in order, in fact often you see wrong backgrounds etc ..
With this I don't want to create controversy with the players of this game, take it as my personal opinion.
After all, everyone is free to spend their money as they see fit.

You cant say that,some DC fantard will attack you eventhough it just your personal opinion

 

[dylan123]

You cant say that,some DC fantard will attack you eventhough it just your personal opinion

I will make myself a reason, I liked the game until the Roxy update after it was no longer interesting for me, I hope I can say it.

 

[Ungawa]

I think the phrase, "can't see the forest for the trees" applies well here. His point wasn't SS is at the same scale as SC.

Neither was mine.

He was pointing put the incredible similarity between the two when you look at their development. It may be 8 years old now, but SC started out small too. The dev was ambitious and shares the passion and zeal for his project that DC does. Like SS, it exploded in popularity and instead of meeting the target release of 2014, its now 2019 and we're still getting updates with no tangible release in sight. SC also has a road map and the benefit of an experienced designer/director.

This denies the reality that DC has done far more that put out tech demos and got Luke Hamilton to role play an actor in a game that cost more than GTA 5.

His point is that SS can quickly turn into this too. It is the largest porn game on patreon and it'll be 3 years old soon without a finished version. I'm a fan. I've played every update without fail and usually give DC the benefit of the doubt when it comes to changes. But the updates are taking longer despite going from one man to a team and core systems still haven't been implemented. For more and more of us, each update reveals the team needs to refocus its priorities because we want this game to succeed as much as DC does. No one wants another SC.

You made my point about scale, ignoring the fact that the reality is that Star Citizen has far more going on than a team of 10 people making games and redoing code and the engine on Ren Py. You also ignored that I pointed out that they just lost a coder and can't shoot miracles out their ass when that affects an update. The point being made is you have to look at the reality and look at context. You can't just compare two games together just because you think the similarities are the same while ignoring important information right in front of you. That's why I said you can compare Star Citizen to Duke Nukem.

 

[Fringgs]

Update? more like a nerf in 2 parts imo

 

[srksrk 68]

You cant say that,some DC fantard will attack you eventhough it just your personal opinion

I would say that haters just keep repeating the same things over and over even it will not change a bit. I wonder: does that make them feel better?