Give it a weekWho wants to take bets on how long it will be until the salty people in this thread start claiming that DarkCookie's wife giving birth is just an excuse for him to delay the update and milk his patrons?
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To be honest...he could bang less but it's up to him.Who wants to take bets on how long it will be until the salty people in this thread start claiming that DarkCookie's wife giving birth is just an excuse for him to delay the update and milk his patrons?
- Jun 19, 2017
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He recently had a vasectomy, so this one really should be his last.To be honest...he could bang less but it's up to him.
Come on ,we all know that DC is a babymaker.A mere vasectomy wont stop him
- Jun 19, 2017
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Yeah, he's certainly the kind of guy who'd be "lucky" enough to get another child that way.
- Jun 11, 2017
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You really think he's going to finish this game in 2 years lol? I'll bet by 2030 we'll be at the last build at the very least with how slow these updates are.
- Jun 19, 2017
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No, the game will at least take another ~3 years for what is planned. After it's really only up to DC and his patreons. Else I didn't say the game will be finished in two years, but that (the same?) people will still complain about the speed by then, after they've done so for the last two years.
- Apr 30, 2018
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man I wish I had your patience.
yea I know your arguments. Handmade high quality content, birth, corona, he lost his keys...
honestly, DC's fanbase is the wet dream of every dev.
props to all of you
yea I know your arguments. Handmade high quality content, birth, corona, he lost his keys...
honestly, DC's fanbase is the wet dream of every dev.
props to all of you
In my opinion it all falls down to:
If you don't approve of what the dev. is doing, then stop giving him money. And if you're not giving him money, then just wait, the game will be free anyway.
If you don't approve of what the dev. is doing, then stop giving him money. And if you're not giving him money, then just wait, the game will be free anyway.
- Jun 19, 2017
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I'd say the unique thing about DC's "fan base" is, that the average donation is much lower. He makes his money by a very high number of small $ patreons. Most people simply give $1, some $5 and very few more than that. It's a substancial difference whether you pay $10 to $20 a month to play MilfCity (lol, sorry) or $0 to $12 a year to play SS.
And yes, those who only pay a few bucks a year certainly tend to be more patient than those who pay $200 or more to other devs. I personally see those few bucks a year as a token of gratitude and that's it. That's of course only as long as he's doing stuff...
Edit: Just to add one thing, which I think many people are really underestimating. He's streaming several times a week for many years now, without accepting donations there. And he's actually a pretty good streamer. He's likable, has a good voice, remembers a ton of users, does a lot of stuff to keep people active during streams, let's them participate in small decisions and answers their questions, while he usually has a good schedule and streams the right amount of spoilers, etc. That attracts people, makes them stay and makes them pay.
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of course I wait, what else could I do !?
giving him money won't speed up the progress, so...
see you in 1 or 2 months.
stay strong till then
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Dc is proud of you for playing the devils advocate
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sry but I'm not interested in his streams nor a making-of of a porn game.
I'd rather see him put that energy in the game development itself.
streaming, chatting with fans, having fun while making papers... as I said, someone is living the dream.
hats off
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Sure, streaming, that's worth the money. Except he doesn't stream "spoiler" content. But streaming was his hook (you'll notice he doesn't do it as much as he used to). When he did he would also stream content that never ever appeared in the game (he did loads before he changed the character rigging, which means all that "work" is in the recycle bin). When he's doing that, he's pretending to work. It looks like work, smells like work, but isn't. And you're lavishing praise on him for not working for nearly $56k a month? Just because you aren't personally being scammed doesn't mean you can't call out a scam.
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- Jun 19, 2017
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@Gasanvar:
Well, the time saving aspect was always questionable, given that everything has to be drawn anyway. The rig-system mainly served the purpose to save space, to enable the game to stay playable on mobiles especially, given that in some areas (especially the SEA) the majority of players seems to play on mobiles by now.
And sure, there are differences between devs. DC is a guy who worked in the animation industry, got fed up and wants to make his own thing with a small team. Other devs want to grow their business, etc. - each to their own. In the end people are free to give money to whom they like. But again, it's not like he's promising something he doesn't keep.
Edit: Just to add the stuff with the children. Sure, money matters, but you'll never get the time back you miss watching them grow up etc. so I can totally understand that people take a least a little time to enable that. At least I certainly know that I'll try to minimize travel and days away from home as much as possible once I've got kids. No matter whether it means a little less money or not... But that's, probably again, something everyone has to decide for himself.
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@cadwldr:
Sorry but that's just not true. Sure, he did some work ages ago (over 2 years by now), but that was when he was still talking about new projects and wanted to get SS done quickly. Those things were dropped rightfully because the quality was simply subpar. Once he decided to take it seriously, I'm not aware of anything that was lost. I do indeed dare you to name a few things he streamed in the last 12 to 18 months that went into the bin.
And sure, he doesn't do as much spoiler content as he used to, because back then he basically streamed huge parts of the update and the suprise was gone. Now he cares a little more and people don't get spoiled to the degree that they know what's going to happen. You may not agree with that, but it does make quite a bit of sense.
Edit: I'll withdraw from this discussion now. It's been held so many times over the years and minds won't be changed anyway. Stay safe.
Well, the time saving aspect was always questionable, given that everything has to be drawn anyway. The rig-system mainly served the purpose to save space, to enable the game to stay playable on mobiles especially, given that in some areas (especially the SEA) the majority of players seems to play on mobiles by now.
And sure, there are differences between devs. DC is a guy who worked in the animation industry, got fed up and wants to make his own thing with a small team. Other devs want to grow their business, etc. - each to their own. In the end people are free to give money to whom they like. But again, it's not like he's promising something he doesn't keep.
Edit: Just to add the stuff with the children. Sure, money matters, but you'll never get the time back you miss watching them grow up etc. so I can totally understand that people take a least a little time to enable that. At least I certainly know that I'll try to minimize travel and days away from home as much as possible once I've got kids. No matter whether it means a little less money or not... But that's, probably again, something everyone has to decide for himself.
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@cadwldr:
Sorry but that's just not true. Sure, he did some work ages ago (over 2 years by now), but that was when he was still talking about new projects and wanted to get SS done quickly. Those things were dropped rightfully because the quality was simply subpar. Once he decided to take it seriously, I'm not aware of anything that was lost. I do indeed dare you to name a few things he streamed in the last 12 to 18 months that went into the bin.
And sure, he doesn't do as much spoiler content as he used to, because back then he basically streamed huge parts of the update and the suprise was gone. Now he cares a little more and people don't get spoiled to the degree that they know what's going to happen. You may not agree with that, but it does make quite a bit of sense.
Edit: I'll withdraw from this discussion now. It's been held so many times over the years and minds won't be changed anyway. Stay safe.
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- Sep 17, 2018
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Summertime Saga is DC's baby, and he is not anybody's slave. So it's pointless to say he must hire someone or work faster because he earns so much. It's his perfect right not to hire anybody and to work his own pace. It's your perfect right not to support him. Oh, wait...
- Sep 17, 2018
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To be fair, Roxxy's update took exactly three months and ten days, and it has eight hscenes, plus extras. And it's the best written story I've seen for long.