Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5258] [Kompas Productions]

[Uthuriel]

Squark
Instead of headpatting me show me the correct file.
The MEGA link on LewdPatcher is down....

genius....

 

[Squark ⚧❤️]

Squark
Instead of headpatting me show me the correct file.
The MEGA link on LewdPatcher is down....

genius....

I don't appreciate the sarcasm.
But what you don't realise is the amount of times that question has been asked.
I suggest you familiarise yourself with the Search function.

 

[Rystvalya]

I get having a trans character and I see no problem with it. Unless there is another character that I've missed I'm pretty sure you get to chose if the character in question is female or trans so what's the big deal?

But MY question is has anyone modded it yet so they're a futa? If I'm given the option of trans OR pregnancy I need an option with both

 

[Omnikuken]

What has this place devolved to ? This is so getting nuked within the day .....

And no, the original plan was to have a trap character (aka a dude dressed as a girl for the sole purpose of baiting MC into thinking he's a girl), the trans trait/char appeared way later when Eve was the only schoolgirl left and DC fell for his own schemes/jokes and transformed it to trans for whatever reason (possibly a continuation of said joke)

I get having a trans character and I see no problem with it. Unless there is another character that I've missed I'm pretty sure you get to chose if the character in question is female or trans so what's the big deal?

But MY question is has anyone modded it yet so they're a futa? If I'm given the option of trans OR pregnancy I need an option with both

Technically and depending of what definition you take/use, male Eve can be a futa (girl with a dick or dude with boobs). Just like NTR, "futa" can be a few things (especially if you go the japanese game route)

 

[j4yj4m]

And no, the original plan was to have a trap character (aka a dude dressed as a girl for the sole purpose of baiting MC into thinking he's a girl), the trans trait/char appeared way later when Eve was the only schoolgirl left and DC fell for his own schemes/jokes and transformed it to trans for whatever reason (possibly a continuation of said joke)

As said before, I think it was more the case that DC just didn't care about the usage of his words, as was explained above. As far as I'm aware he did indeed care about a proper story quite early on and an actual "trap" was never on the table.

Technically and depending of what definition you take/use, male Eve can be a futa (girl with a dick or dude with boobs). Just like NTR, "futa" can be a few things (especially if you go the japanese game route)

Doesn't the term futa usually include both a dick and a vagina? The futas which are often shown in games are basically just fantasy and can't actually exist in reality.

 

[Omnikuken]

A reality-reliant futa would be a hermaphrodite : both sexes into 1 person. Whatever we get in games isn't and doesn't need to be reality-based.

There's also "futa" with a normal girl having a dick but no pussy, having both pussy+dick and dudes having boobs. The term is pretty loose

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[Squark ⚧❤️]

can't actually exist in reality.

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It actually can but is extremely rare, like <0.1% rare. The highest probability is as a result of Chimerism, which is also very rare- given that the highest estimate of natural human chimeras is ~10%.

 

[j4yj4m]

A reality-reliant futa would be a hermaphrodite : both sexes into 1 person. Whatever we get in games isn't and doesn't need to be reality-based.

Well, yeah, that was kinda the point. Hermaphrodites usually don't have two fully functional sexual organs - certainly not as we see it in some games.

There's also "futa" with a normal girl having a dick but no pussy, having both pussy+dick and dudes having boobs. The term is pretty loose

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That's not really how the term is used when it comes to NSFW games though. It's even written in the article: "In today's language it refers almost exclusively to characters who have an overall

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body, but have both female and male primary genitalia (although testicles are not always present) "

I mean, there's a reason why futa and trans are mentioned seperately - simply because they are seen as something different.

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It actually can but is extremely rare, like <0.1% rare. The highest probability is as a result of Chimerism, which is also very rare- given that the highest estimate of natural human chimeras is ~10%.

Sure, it exists, but I mean, the chance to have a perfectly working "normal" dick and a fully functional female sexual organs is basically indeed zero. At least as far as I'm aware.

Not that it really matters. I just wanted to point out that there's a reason why trans and futa shouldn't be used as synonyms.

 

[Marphey]

That's good to hear, I'd heard that he'd gotten a icy cold shoulder when he asked for advice.

Reminds me of something I've heard many times--those who want to take advantage of LGBTQ+ often learn all the terms flawlessly in order to gain their confidence. It advises to recognize when someone is genuinely trying to do the right thing, to use the right terms, even if they stumble.

I often consider myself "mildly gender non-conforming." Nothing drastic, but I really never fit in with boys growing up, never got some of their attitudes and felt more at ease in the company of girls. I often look to the time when "gender non-conformity" is no longer a thing.

Identity politics. That's definetly what we need on these forums.

 

[Marphey]

I will give my two cents to the whole discussion. As of right now optional trans character is the best compromise for those who want such character and those who are not into that.

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

Adding to the arguments, I just kinda think the Eve trap/trans thing was kind of poorly executed in general. I think there are a lot of areas where it could of been handled better and it just ends up feeling more natural in relation to the rest of the game that Eve is a girl by birth.

 

[Marphey]

Adding to the arguments, I just kinda think the Eve trap/trans thing was kind of poorly executed in general. I think there are a lot of areas where it could of been handled better and it just ends up feeling more natural in relation to the rest of the game that Eve is a girl by birth.

Don't forget that this game is made for sexual release. You people just taking this too seriously. This site is definetly not for you if you seek compeling story about transgender people.

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

Don't forget that this game is made for sexual release. You people just taking this too seriously. This site is definetly not for you if you seek compeling story about transgender people.

I see your point, but I disagree. You are basically saying adult games are porn first in nature which is untrue. The story is important to give life and drive to the sex scenes and the more compelling the story, the more intense and rewarding that scene is. Build up and payoff are essential in these games, which is the main reason why 95% of all adult games are complete trash.

 

[Marphey]

I see your point, but I disagree. You are basically saying adult games are porn first in nature which is untrue. The story is important to give life and drive to the sex scenes and the more compelling the story, the more intense and rewarding that scene is. Build up and payoff are essential in these games, which is the main reason why 95% of all adult games are complete trash.

I am not going to argue with you about that but that is how things are on this site.

 

[j4yj4m]

I see your point, but I disagree. You are basically saying adult games are porn first in nature which is untrue. The story is important to give life and drive to the sex scenes and the more compelling the story, the more intense and rewarding that scene is. Build up and payoff are essential in these games, which is the main reason why 95% of all adult games are complete trash.

In the end there's has to be some kind of compromise between what should be done (which is something one can argue about) and what can actually be done. The cutscenes already take a good chunk of DC's time and adding a lot more story will also increase the time it takes to release and update.

While I'd fully agree with what you are saying, one just has to accept that we aren't talking about a simple VN or indeed light novel/book and as such it's not always that easy to just add "more story" while maintaining the quality and the schedule.

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

In the end there's has to be some kind of compromise between what should be done (which is something one can argue about) and what can actually be done. The cutscenes already take a good chunk of DC's time and adding a lot more story will also increase the time it takes to release and update.

While I'd fully agree with what you are saying, one just has to accept that we aren't talking about a simple VN or indeed light novel/book and as such it's not always that easy to just add "more story" while maintaining the quality and the schedule.

I'm not arguing that it needs to have more story. I'm simply arguing that a good story is just as important to the game as the porn. And for the most part the game really gets it right in that aspect. And yeah, its almost to a fault at times, with the story far outweighing the porn content, but I'm actually really happy with where the game is right now. My original argument was that I didn't think the Eve trap/trans reveal felt natural within the game, but that is just one small instance where I felt the writing kind of failed. Overall I thought Eve's story was really good, but it just kind of fumbled on the trans subject matter.

 

[j4yj4m]

My original argument was that I didn't think the Eve trap/trans reveal felt natural within the game, but that is just one small instance where I felt the writing kind of failed. Overall I thought Eve's story was really good, but it just kind of fumbled on the trans subject matter.

In that case I may have missunderstood you. I thought you meant it like "her story was bad as it is and as such it should have been elaborated further to fix it".

I'd fully agree that there are quite a few gaps in her story, but then again, these exist in every story and such I don't really mind them.

 

[Tikky]

Which of the women in this game can you fuck?More details, if you don't mind!Thanks!

 

[Omnikuken]

There's like 25-30 girls you can dick, way too many to list. Just haul your face onto the wiki and check them out : faster for you and no hassle for us. You'll also feel better with yourself having found a place where every question you'll ever had is already answered

 

[Dragon59]

You're not stating an opinion though. An opinon would be "I don't like trans content." You said it "never was intented to be a trans genre game... And drawing the trans animations takes time and effort from normal content." Neither of which are factually true, yet you present them as fact. Three people tell you that you are, in fact, making incorrect statements about the content of the game and the game's development cycle, and present proof as to why you are incorrect. Then you persist in presenting your flawed, self-informed information as facts about the game's development. If you can't differentiate between an opinion and a fact, that doesn't change the definition of those words as defined in American or British English.

Having a trans character in the game or any forum of media is not "hijacking" it.

Agreed. To portray the inclusion of a single trans character, a sympathetic one at that, does not turn a game into "a trans genre game," The inclusion of Russian mobsters does not make a Mafia family genre game either (like DeLuca Family).

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It actually can but is extremely rare, like <0.1% rare. The highest probability is as a result of Chimerism, which is also very rare- given that the highest estimate of natural human chimeras is ~10%.

Fingers crossed!
I didn't realize the rate was so high for human chimerism. Now that I think about it, cases of different eye colors or hair colors is not extremely uncommon.

Well, yeah, that was kinda the point. Hermaphrodites usually don't have two fully functional sexual organs - certainly not as we see it in some games.
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Sure, it exists, but I mean, the chance to have a perfectly working "normal" dick and a fully functional female sexual organs is basically indeed zero. At least as far as I'm aware.

Not that it really matters. I just wanted to point out that there's a reason why trans and futa shouldn't be used as synonyms.

Agreed they are two very different things.
I was reading that the incidence of having "ovotestes," having both ovarian and testicular tissue, is 1 in 83,000 births. There have been some cases of penile potency, being able to have an erection, but penile fertility is rare to non-existent. It was referenced in a 1994 study but according to a 2010 study, none have been reliably documented. In most cases, the ovaries "rule" and most can get pregnant. I remember decades ago a talk show that had a case of a intersex woman whose father had decided she'd be a boy and had her stitched up. She later had that undone, and had gotten pregnant by her partner, but the British healthcare system denied her prenatal care because her birth certificate said male and males did not get prenatal care. Sheesh! Talk about bureaucratic nightmare!