Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5258] [Kompas Productions]

[MurkyTurtle]

Except that they made another thread for gameplay questions, so you don't come in here to ask those ....... And October 31st wasn't that long ago

111 days, which is nearly four months. And let's check in on how things are progressing...

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The tracker as of today:


That's...not a lot of work completed. Assuming that the tracker is being kept up to date, that's the last writing task done, nine coding tasks done and eight added (yielding net progress of "one task"), and zero progress on either posing or art. That doesn't bode well. Even part-time I'd have expected at least a single posing task to get done, and word seems to be filtering out that it's going so catastrophically poorly that they're having to build automatic engines to speed things up. What sort of horrible fuckery have they done to the Ren'Py engine?

DC is either going to have to release another pre-tech update to keep the natives from getting restless, or he's looking at potentially an entire year of fiddling on Picarto while the project burns. I get that he doesn't want to be Mr. Big Business Manager and just wants to draw, but at some point you have to hire on a full-time person or two who know what they're doing.

 

[Count Morado]

this year.... most of those came out over a year ago.

And again you're moving the goal posts. Omnikuken never said "this year" or "in the past year" any time when referring to 30+ scenes in the 6 pre-tech updates.

In the past year:
v0.20.16: 31 Oct 2022 (Small Secret Pre-tech part 6) -> 1 month
v0.20.15: 25 Sep 2022 (Pre-tech part 5) -> 5 months
v0.20.14: 29 Apr 2022 (Pre-tech part 4) -> 2.5 months
v0.20.13: 19 Feb 2022 (Pre-tech part 3) -> 4 months
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Before that:
v0.20.12: 22 Oct 2021 (Pre-tech part 2) -> 3 months
v0.20.11: 01 Jul 2021 (Pre-tech part 1) -> 3 months

Again, proof you are wrong.

 

[CoolHandChewie]

And again you're moving the goal posts. Omnikuken never said "this year" or "in the past year" any time when referring to 30+ scenes in the 6 pre-tech updates.

In the past year:
v0.20.16: 31 Oct 2022 (Small Secret Pre-tech part 6) -> 1 month
v0.20.15: 25 Sep 2022 (Pre-tech part 5) -> 5 months
v0.20.14: 29 Apr 2022 (Pre-tech part 4) -> 2.5 months
v0.20.13: 19 Feb 2022 (Pre-tech part 3) -> 4 months
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Before that:
v0.20.12: 22 Oct 2021 (Pre-tech part 2) -> 3 months
v0.20.11: 01 Jul 2021 (Pre-tech part 1) -> 3 months

Again, proof you are wrong.

still not 30+ LOL recycled animations. boring! yall defending this must be the chumps paying 10 bucks a month

 

[Count Morado]

still not 30+ LOL recycled animations. boring!

I have shown you are wrong four times in three separate posts. now you're just a broken record refusing to face the facts. It's not about defending anyone - it's about using objectivity and honesty when looking at the information.

I personally don't give a fuck if Summertime Saga fails or becomes gospel. And I've not donated a single red cent to the DC or any other adult game developer. The fact that you can't put your own personal bias aside when faced with proven information which contradicts your cognitive distortion tells more about you than about the game or DC.

 

[CoolHandChewie]

I have shown you are wrong four times in three separate posts. now you're just a broken record refusing to face the facts. It's not about defending anyone - it's about using objectivity and honesty when looking at the information.

I personally don't give a fuck if Summertime Saga fails or becomes gospel. And I've not donated a single red cent to the DC or any other adult game developer. The fact that you can't put your own personal bias aside when faced with proven information which contradicts your cognitive distortion tells more about you than about the game or DC.

nope you showed me you dont know how to count there was not 30+ new animations last year, and even if it was 30 animations in one year that is still sad. talk about slow unmotivated artists.

these animations consists of maybe 6 to 12 frames. wow they drew 360 frames in a whole year! what they work 1 hour a day? i could crank out one of these loops a day easy.

 

[Omnikuken]

111 days, which is nearly four months. And let's check in on how things are progressing...

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The tracker as of today:
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That's...not a lot of work completed. Assuming that the tracker is being kept up to date, that's the last writing task done, nine coding tasks done and eight added (yielding net progress of "one task"), and zero progress on either posing or art. That doesn't bode well. Even part-time I'd have expected at least a single posing task to get done, and word seems to be filtering out that it's going so catastrophically poorly that they're having to build automatic engines to speed things up. What sort of horrible fuckery have they done to the Ren'Py engine?

DC is either going to have to release another pre-tech update to keep the natives from getting restless, or he's looking at potentially an entire year of fiddling on Picarto while the project burns. I get that he doesn't want to be Mr. Big Business Manager and just wants to draw, but at some point you have to hire on a full-time person or two who know what they're doing.

The art bar didn't move for more than a year, expecting it to do otherwise is a bit moot. They hired 2 new posers to speed things up, seems like that wasn't enough. Coder can't do much if everything else gets bogged down (mostly the posing). DC won't hire another dude anyway. You'll have to cringe through the year and wait for stuff to happen or go the milker way and cry every day you're getting scammed. Nothing else will happen and nothing you do or say will change anything.

Whether or not DC knows/cares/worries about anything happening outside of the dev team is yet to be shown too. He blows at managing and won't seek outside help, you either cope with that or cry daily about it. Won't matter much to any1 else. Pledge or not, won't change much either

 

[teraptuss]

On the bright side its been like 15-20+ pages since someone asked if the incest patch still works

 

[Omnikuken]

On the bright side its been like 15-20+ pages since someone asked if the incest patch still works

Don't tempt them too much. Or at least we'll know who to point out if it happens

 

[styggtuff12]

when it was time for the tech update i decided not to play any of the small updates and wait for the update after the tech update because the tech update is mostly technical not story/character focused, it's been a year and a half or two years now, when is this update gonna drop? at this point he's just milking the patreons for all they're worth

 

[Omnikuken]

when it was time for the tech update i decided not to play any of the small updates and wait for the update after the tech update because the tech update is mostly technical not story/character focused, it's been a year and a half or two years now, when is this update gonna drop? at this point he's just milking the patreons for all they're worth

Your loss, it'll be 2 years at the end of March, nobody knows and nope

 

[StreamSteam]

DC has commissioned member(s?) of the community to animate certain older scenes as part of this update, which is pretty cool.

You mean the animations made by dildorog ? nope they will not appear in the official Summertime Saga build .
Dildo releases new STS animations several times a week, DC should hire such talented people.

 

[Omnikuken]

You mean the animations made by dildorog ? nope they will not appear in the official Summertime Saga build .
Dildo releases new STS animations several times a week, DC should hire such talented people.

DC doesn't do the animations for the game, it's hard to compare them

 

[StreamSteam]

DC doesn't do the animations for the game, it's hard to compare them

Never claimed that, know that AEHentai does.

 

[ToBeContinued]

we just here laughing at this disaster and the gullible chumps still funding it. LOL its a MEME now.

Heh. Why rush things and get it actually done/completed when you have suckers(donators) eh. There goes that money cow(donations). Which means Dark and his co-horts would have to find real jobs. But then you have these fools(donators) that will use every defense to justify what they did before ever admiting they got screwed. Pride is a motherfucker. "No man, you are wrong, its not a waste of money." Mm hm, sure, what-ever makes you sleep better at night. I really do hope you believe that your money was well spent on a game with nothing but repetitive fetch quests.

 

[Omnikuken]

Heh. Why rush things and get it actually done/completed when you have suckers(donators) eh. There goes that money cow(donations). Which means Dark and his co-horts would have to find real jobs. But then you have these fools(donators) that will use every defense to justify what they did before ever admiting they got screwed. Pride is a motherfucker. "No man, you are wrong, its not a waste of money." Mm hm, sure, what-ever makes you sleep better at night. I really do hope you believe that your money was well spent on a game with nothing but repetitive fetch quests.

Then you realize people donate about 2$ a month, they don't pay for anything and aren't promised anything in return. Multiply that by ~25k people that don't care about it and you got whiners thinking they found something worthwhile to moan about

 

[Toasty_Sloth]

As someone who donates to this a few times a year I donate because this game is a distraction that I am willing to pay for to support a devoted developer. He makes so much money because he has earned it try and discredit that all you want yet the proof is staring right at you with the fan base. You can say that all the donators are being scammed yet they are watching his streams and talking in his main communities happily paying him a few bucks a month. These tech updates were not going to have much content to my understanding, yet I see more in those then most games with a regular update. I know devs that are way worse on here one has to turn off comments when an update comes out due to the pure hate that comes from the upset community on here.

Donors gonna donate and I guess haters gonna hate.

 

[Deleted member 5184286]

As someone who donates to this a few times a year I donate because this game is a distraction that I am willing to pay for to support a devoted developer. He makes so much money because he has earned it try and discredit that all you want yet the proof is staring right at you with the fan base. You can say that all the donators are being scammed yet they are watching his streams and talking in his main communities happily paying him a few bucks a month. These tech updates were not going to have much content to my understanding, yet I see more in those then most games with a regular update. I know devs that are way worse on here one has to turn off comments when an update comes out due to the pure hate that comes from the upset community on here.

Donors gonna donate and I guess haters gonna hate.

lmao and paid shills gonna shill ...

 

[Toasty_Sloth]

lmao and paid shills gonna shill ...

I am not being paid by anyone in fact the opposite I am also not saying anyone should go donate that is a personal choice they make. So, I will assume your ignorant about the word shill and just said the first hater remark that came to mind because your upset about something.

I am just a fan watching people whine about something they got for free saying I got scammed because I donated a little bit of money. I didn't have to donate to play the game I only did it to support something that made me happy I am sure I have wasted more money on something that brought me less joy.

 

[McSlut]

As someone who donates to this a few times a year I donate because this game is a distraction that I am willing to pay for to support a devoted developer.

if you care about this game you should stop donating even if it's just 2$ or whatever. if enough people do this there might be change, for example DC might actually hire a project manager, employ a full time coder or at least he might pretend to actually work on stream instead of doodling for 2 hours or wasting 30 minutes talking to his team about where exactly to put a chair inside the bar and things like that. if progress continues at this pace the tech update is still not going to be out by the same time next year

 

[Count Morado]

if you care about this game you should stop donating even if it's just 2$ or whatever. if enough people do this there might be change, for example DC might actually hire a project manager, employ a full time coder or at least he might pretend to actually work on stream instead of doodling for 2 hours or wasting 30 minutes talking to his team about where exactly to put a chair inside the bar and things like that. if progress continues at this pace the tech update is still not going to be out by the same time next year

I know this is difficult to process - but there are enough players of the game, both subscribers and non, who aren't as bothered by the pace as some of the more vocal individuals who are bothered. Personally - as a nonsubscriber - it doesn't bother me if this takes 2 months or 20 years.

If it bothers a person that it is taking this long of time and they are a subscriber, we have all advocated that they should stop donating. If it doesn't bother them and they wish to keep donating, that is their choice. They might get enjoyment out of watching the streams live or on VOD, they might see the value in what DC and the team are doing even if it is taking a stretch of time, they might just support DC's vision, they might simply donate as a way of saying thanks, or they might just be donating for no other reason that "meh, seems like a thing to do."

As has been mentioned time and again, DC left his previous work partially because he did not enjoy working in a traditional game development firm (with project managers, etc) - so the idea that he might hire one to manage him is a non-starter. His doodling on the stream is a public relations activity as well as a way to have interactions with some of the fanbase - it should not be seen as some kind of productivity time that has its primary intent to advance the game content, but as 'facetime' that may result in content. Its like having Wendy's fast-food restaurant founder Dave Thomas in Wendy's commercials - nothing really gets checked off the to-do list, but it does have other advantages.

Also, as has been stated over and over and over - to others and in replies to you - DC has made it publicly known that while the monetary support is nice, it's not his driving motivation to make the game. His development team will shrink and grow based upon his own enjoyment/frustration with the progress. If he brought in $200,000 per month in donations - he probably wouldn't do much different than he's doing now. If he brought in $200 per month, he would shrink the team to just himself and develop when he has free time - and then updates will REALLY slow down.