Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5258] [Kompas Productions]

[Phegor]

what's wrong with [...] rpgm?

No rollback, cannot save or load mid-conversation, no named saves, very often no conversation log.

 

[Count Morado]

Any Kompass Production patreon memeber, could you please tell me whether this game is completely abandoned or it's in slow development

Short answer: slow.

Long answer: You could just go to Patreon and see that there are recent posts and then find them copy/pasted in this thread by a Patreon subscriber, or you could go to the developer's website to their news page to see a progress tracker that moves slowly, or you could go to Picarto on a weekday afternoon (US eastern time) and ask the lead developer, DarkCookie, himself.

 

[harem.king]

No rollback, cannot save or load mid-conversation, no named saves, very often no conversation log.

Also walking simulator games.
Also no fast forward. if there is fast forward it is for everything instead of only text you already read.
limited save slots.
RPGM combat (which is awful).
One of the most difficult programs to get running on linux
and many more issues

 

[anonymous736174]

Holy shit, I've played the game back in the 2010s, still remember the original sister update when it launched, yet the game is abandoned now? What shame, such potential wasted.

 

[dirgetka]

Holy shit, I've played the game back in the 2010s, still remember the original sister update when it launched, yet the game is abandoned now? What shame, such potential wasted.

"Abandoned" is more of a categorical thing in this case. It's still being worked on, albeit so slowly it qualifies for the Abandoned tag

 

[asdfasdf]

Holy shit, I've played the game back in the 2010s, still remember the original sister update when it launched, yet the game is abandoned now? What shame, such potential wasted.

It's THEORETICALLY still being updated, as he streams himself doodling pictures for the game. But it's been 2 years since the last minor tweak update, and 2 years before that since the last content update.

 

[PayneToTheMax]

It's THEORETICALLY still being updated, as he streams himself doodling pictures for the game. But it's been 2 years since the last minor tweak update, and 2 years before that since the last content update.

It's been 18 months since the last update, otherwise the game would have been abandoned in January. And it hasn't been 4 years since the main story was finished.

 

[Ifllslonly]

You really need something to tickle someone's fancy to make them play such games. Be it a good story or really good art.

My point is it seems that it doesn't even matter if there is a good story or good art at all. People seem to be too strict with filtering games in general and I don't understand why. This is a rhetorical question, but why is it crucial for the game not to have certain tags or an engine? Personally, I download about 1% of the games at best, and often just to give feedback to the dev. But not because of anything like tags, but because the average quality of the games is really low.

the main problem with sandbox is the fact that they are usually done incorrectly and solely implemented to stretch out the amount of the content that is included in the game. there are countless cases where games would be better off without the tedious sandboxes. for me rpgm lacks way too many basic features eg. rollback. rpgm games are usually lower resolution so when you play on a higher resolution display it kind of becomes a problem if you want to preserve quality of image.

I agree with you in general, it's just that the approach can't be universal, there will always be exceptions.
In my opinion, devs who like what they do, deliver updates and show quality should get the most feedback and support, but it's clearly the other way around. The game I mentioned has 87 paid members, 87. I'm not saying this game should be at the top, but $395 before taxes and Patreon fees is insanely low.

 

[Ottoeight]

Does anyone have any idea why this game is underrated and has almost no support? It's just really strange that some of the quality games get almost no attention or feedback.

My idea is that you're supposed to fap on porn, and fapping on that CG would be... oh... well, how about fapping on some little ponies' games? fapping on the smurfs boning Smurfette?

 

[armopbr]

Try Flexible Media games: Paradise Lust 1/2, Sinners Landing. Nice drawing style, vibe, characters and top writing. The developer also aims to release completed games within 3 years which is very rare here. PL1 is already completed.

Out of curiosity, why do you consider StS as the best 2d porn game? What does this game have that others don't?

Good animation and good character design, something that most porn games dont have. You mostly choose between 3D grotesque designs with animation or good 2D designs with powerpoint animation

 

[DarkExecutive]

Holy shit, I've played the game back in the 2010s, still remember the original sister update when it launched, yet the game is abandoned now? What shame, such potential wasted.

The Abandoned tag is a very powerful thing - it either shames developers into releasing something, anything at all - to get rid of it and save their revenue stream, or it serves as a warning to enjoy the game for what it is and not get too invested. Either way, it's a positive for the players.

 

[Xupuzulla]

We are getting a release at the end of the month because of the abandoned tag so yeah the tag is a big deal.

 

[itsyeboii]

Try Flexible Media games: Paradise Lust 1/2, Sinners Landing. Nice drawing style, vibe, characters and top writing. The developer also aims to release completed games within 3 years which is very rare here. PL1 is already completed.

Out of curiosity, why do you consider StS as the best 2d porn game? What does this game have that others don't?

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll check them out.

I wouldn't be able to properly answer your question, but I'd say the art style really appeals to me, it can sometimes be a bit ugly and I'd like for DC to improve on some things, but it's an art style that is very easy to look at and feels natural. Other 2D games, like What a Legend for example, also have a great art style from an objective point of view but don't appeal to me all that much when it comes to actually finding it hot. Of course, animations play a big role as well.

But even apart from the actual nude/sex scenes, there's a lot of soul in Summertime's world because of the art and attention to detail that make it fun to play around in.

I also like the way StS sets up events and quest progression, can't elaborate on that due to not having experience in game design/writing but I think StS manages to play well with the fantasies of the player. I dunno, there just hasn't been a game that hits the same as Summertime Saga and evidently a lot of people agree with that sentiment because it's the most popular 2D adult game out there.

 

[royalframe89]

Maybe Time to move on and find a new games
kinda sad because i really like this kind of art

 

[XCelesX]

We are getting a release at the end of the month because of the abandoned tag so yeah the tag is a big deal.

more like thrown a bone. It's not even the full update. Just a sneak peak.

 

[WinniDex]

How is this game even a thing? Why are there still people paying for this. I don't get it.

 

[BigLoada]

How is this game even a thing? Why are there still people paying for this. I don't get it.

Sunk cost fallacy

 

[X[]-[]X]

Try Flexible Media games: Paradise Lust 1/2, Sinners Landing. Nice drawing style, vibe, characters and top writing. The developer also aims to release completed games within 3 years which is very rare here. PL1 is already completed.

Out of curiosity, why do you consider StS as the best 2d porn game? What does this game have that others don't?

Paradise Lust is a game with a lot of talking to build up to events that are...more talking with a little activity. Paradise Lust 2 is exactly the same.

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll check them out.

I wouldn't be able to properly answer your question, but I'd say the art style really appeals to me, it can sometimes be a bit ugly and I'd like for DC to improve on some things, but it's an art style that is very easy to look at and feels natural. Other 2D games, like What a Legend for example, also have a great art style from an objective point of view but don't appeal to me all that much when it comes to actually finding it hot. Of course, animations play a big role as well.

But even apart from the actual nude/sex scenes, there's a lot of soul in Summertime's world because of the art and attention to detail that make it fun to play around in.

I also like the way StS sets up events and quest progression, can't elaborate on that due to not having experience in game design/writing but I think StS manages to play well with the fantasies of the player. I dunno, there just hasn't been a game that hits the same as Summertime Saga and evidently a lot of people agree with that sentiment because it's the most popular 2D adult game out there.

Honestly, yeah, StS just hits different. Its a fun, chill game with engaging, well-written characters and beautiful art. A lot of people shitting on it now, pretending its trash, but it is STILL the high bar in 2d sandbox point & click porn games. 3 years out from a major update and it reigns supreme in both quality and quantity. That, gentlemen, is why this game still has patrons. Because every thing else low key sucks ass in comparison.

 

[PayneToTheMax]

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll check them out.

I wouldn't be able to properly answer your question, but I'd say the art style really appeals to me, it can sometimes be a bit ugly and I'd like for DC to improve on some things, but it's an art style that is very easy to look at and feels natural. Other 2D games, like What a Legend for example, also have a great art style from an objective point of view but don't appeal to me all that much when it comes to actually finding it hot. Of course, animations play a big role as well.

Summertime Saga's artstyle is one of those that wouldn't be out of place in a a late 90s cartoon (apart from the adult stuff, of course), and I think that is also where the appeal lies. It's why gags visual like the whole backpack thing doesn't feel as out of place as it would in more realistic looking games.