Senigata

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You're probably right, I sometimes forget that people often value tags a lot. But what's wrong with a sandbox or rpgm? It doesn't seem to matter how good the execution is.
Far too many people seem to only care about the porn part of porn games. At this rate, there won't be any global improvements at all. AI sex chats is the future, I suppose.
Sandbox games are notorious for being 'grindy' with Big Brother being basically a one game reason why that opinion cemented itself, doesn't matter if the sandbox game in question isn't actually grindy. Similar to RPGmaker, which people connect with gameplay, something that runs a bit counter when the reason they are playing is to rub one out. Now combine that together and you got a mix people are more likely to bitch about.

You really need something to tickle someone's fancy to make them play such games. Be it a good story or really good art.
 

Black Orchid

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You're probably right, I sometimes forget that people often value tags a lot. But what's wrong with a sandbox or rpgm? It doesn't seem to matter how good the execution is.
Far too many people seem to only care about the porn part of porn games. At this rate, there won't be any global improvements at all. AI sex chats is the future, I suppose.
the main problem with sandbox is the fact that they are usually done incorrectly and solely implemented to stretch out the amount of the content that is included in the game. there are countless cases where games would be better off without the tedious sandboxes. for me rpgm lacks way too many basic features eg. rollback. rpgm games are usually lower resolution so when you play on a higher resolution display it kind of becomes a problem if you want to preserve quality of image.
 

Count Morado

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Any Kompass Production patreon memeber, could you please tell me whether this game is completely abandoned or it's in slow development
Short answer: slow.

Long answer: You could just go to Patreon and see that there are recent posts and then find them copy/pasted in this thread by a Patreon subscriber, or you could go to the developer's website to their news page to see a progress tracker that moves slowly, or you could go to Picarto on a weekday afternoon (US eastern time) and ask the lead developer, DarkCookie, himself.
 
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harem.king

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No rollback, cannot save or load mid-conversation, no named saves, very often no conversation log.
Also walking simulator games.
Also no fast forward. if there is fast forward it is for everything instead of only text you already read.
limited save slots.
RPGM combat (which is awful).
One of the most difficult programs to get running on linux
and many more issues
 

asdfasdf

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Holy shit, I've played the game back in the 2010s, still remember the original sister update when it launched, yet the game is abandoned now? What shame, such potential wasted.
It's THEORETICALLY still being updated, as he streams himself doodling pictures for the game. But it's been 2 years since the last minor tweak update, and 2 years before that since the last content update.
 

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It's THEORETICALLY still being updated, as he streams himself doodling pictures for the game. But it's been 2 years since the last minor tweak update, and 2 years before that since the last content update.
It's been 18 months since the last update, otherwise the game would have been abandoned in January. And it hasn't been 4 years since the main story was finished.
 

Ifllslonly

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You really need something to tickle someone's fancy to make them play such games. Be it a good story or really good art.
My point is it seems that it doesn't even matter if there is a good story or good art at all. People seem to be too strict with filtering games in general and I don't understand why. This is a rhetorical question, but why is it crucial for the game not to have certain tags or an engine? Personally, I download about 1% of the games at best, and often just to give feedback to the dev. But not because of anything like tags, but because the average quality of the games is really low.
the main problem with sandbox is the fact that they are usually done incorrectly and solely implemented to stretch out the amount of the content that is included in the game. there are countless cases where games would be better off without the tedious sandboxes. for me rpgm lacks way too many basic features eg. rollback. rpgm games are usually lower resolution so when you play on a higher resolution display it kind of becomes a problem if you want to preserve quality of image.
I agree with you in general, it's just that the approach can't be universal, there will always be exceptions.
In my opinion, devs who like what they do, deliver updates and show quality should get the most feedback and support, but it's clearly the other way around. The game I mentioned has 87 paid members, 87. I'm not saying this game should be at the top, but $395 before taxes and Patreon fees is insanely low.
 
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Ottoeight

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Does anyone have any idea why this game is underrated and has almost no support? It's just really strange that some of the quality games get almost no attention or feedback.
My idea is that you're supposed to fap on porn, and fapping on that CG would be... oh... well, how about fapping on some little ponies' games? fapping on the smurfs boning Smurfette?
 

armopbr

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Try Flexible Media games: Paradise Lust 1/2, Sinners Landing. Nice drawing style, vibe, characters and top writing. The developer also aims to release completed games within 3 years which is very rare here. PL1 is already completed.

Out of curiosity, why do you consider StS as the best 2d porn game? What does this game have that others don't?
Good animation and good character design, something that most porn games dont have. You mostly choose between 3D grotesque designs with animation or good 2D designs with powerpoint animation
 
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DarkExecutive

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Holy shit, I've played the game back in the 2010s, still remember the original sister update when it launched, yet the game is abandoned now? What shame, such potential wasted.
The Abandoned tag is a very powerful thing - it either shames developers into releasing something, anything at all - to get rid of it and save their revenue stream, or it serves as a warning to enjoy the game for what it is and not get too invested. Either way, it's a positive for the players.
 

itsyeboii

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Try Flexible Media games: Paradise Lust 1/2, Sinners Landing. Nice drawing style, vibe, characters and top writing. The developer also aims to release completed games within 3 years which is very rare here. PL1 is already completed.

Out of curiosity, why do you consider StS as the best 2d porn game? What does this game have that others don't?
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll check them out.

I wouldn't be able to properly answer your question, but I'd say the art style really appeals to me, it can sometimes be a bit ugly and I'd like for DC to improve on some things, but it's an art style that is very easy to look at and feels natural. Other 2D games, like What a Legend for example, also have a great art style from an objective point of view but don't appeal to me all that much when it comes to actually finding it hot. Of course, animations play a big role as well.

But even apart from the actual nude/sex scenes, there's a lot of soul in Summertime's world because of the art and attention to detail that make it fun to play around in.

I also like the way StS sets up events and quest progression, can't elaborate on that due to not having experience in game design/writing but I think StS manages to play well with the fantasies of the player. I dunno, there just hasn't been a game that hits the same as Summertime Saga and evidently a lot of people agree with that sentiment because it's the most popular 2D adult game out there.
 
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