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i recommend people unwatch this thread because it will become and actual cesspit of shit in a few weeks
all the lurkers and silent oblivious supporters will come here and rage when they realize they waited almost three years for barely any new content
lol its deserved if there that stupid with their money ahahahahha ima laugh at those idiots
 
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F95 is allegedly irrelevant, yet this guy is over here with 6500+ replies shilling darkcookie like it's his 9-5
He was(still is I guess) actually on many threads perpetreting the same attitude. Someone already mentioned Omnikuken. Well, funny to say I preferred his salty replies to this. Anyway if that bothers you, just ignore and move on.

By the way as many don't love Jenny here's the new artwork :LUL:
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and give a look at the fanmade AI pictures, as they're getting better and better.
 
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harem.king

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a toast to the abandoned tag
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they really dropped the ball here.
they were milking about a million dollars a year from patreon for 2 updates a year of barely any content.
how could they let it become abandoned? this seriously impacts their bottom line and was so easy to avoid.
Hold up, so your saying the update (that's supposed to add newer content to what the game already has) is going to strip off content which it already has??? :eek:
Many such cases
 
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memelman

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On one side this is NOT how any masterpiece is created. This is the m.o. of movies & TV show producers who see that an IP sells so they pile on another installment and then another and another, butchering the canon, butchering the lore in however way seems to be most profitable next, not giving a flying fuck about the fanbase, until inevitably the quality tanks so badly the IP is no longer useful to extract money from suckers. That's EXACTLY what DC did.
Just remember how quickly he dropped incest as soon as it presented any risk to his income despite incest being THE central theme of his original vision. There was no burning need for integrity there because money.
If he actually had a vision he "needed" to tell with artistic integrity SS would release in very well defined chapters, each one building upon the previous one, like DmD, LomL and countless other Ren'Py games, with no reason to break old saves.
Don't really have an issue with the rest of what you wrote and agree for the most part, but you are 100% wrong here. Objectively 100% wrong.

The whole idea that porn games must be fully episodic and must never break saves is idiotic and makes that quality of the games much much worse. Visual novels are least hurt by that kind of development process, but it also forces lots of games that aren't really trying to be visual novels to basically have the structure of visual novels. And not particularly complex visual novels either.

Imagine trying to make a video game where you can never make changes that impact the saved game file structure. Imagine having to make the complete and finished start of your game first, rather than focusing on the most important and critical parts and then building the rest of the game around those.

No making revisions to improve the story, no making technical changes that improve performance, no iterating on or improving game mechanics.

It would be retarded to make a video game that way, but people in the threads will bitch and moan if ever their precious saves break or content is added to or changed from earlier parts of the game. Anything that would prevent them from just immediately going through the most recent content each and every release.

So we get a lot of games that are very inferior to what they could be, and most of them wind up being basically just visual novels even if that wasn't what the game dev was going for.
 
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MonsterV

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There are dozens, if not hundreds of sites like F95 - and not all of them are "english only" like F95. Are they all the size of F95? No. However, here is a screengrab of one site where you can "find" Summertime Saga while browsing games... with links available to the developer's website, etc:
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That's 70.4 million downloads from that website (of the APK - across all versions)... which is almost double the number of views of this thread, and the number of views of this thread is more than the number of downloads for Summertime Saga from F95.

Here's another site:
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And another:
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There are 600-700k paying subscribers to adult game creator on Patreon.

Look, even if you say they registered for an account in the past year in order to be active, 1.2 million did --- and you'd have to have nearly 100% of the adult game patreon subscribers be among them in order to get to 50% of those those newly added accounts in just the past year. It's 2.3 million in the past 2 years, now you've dropped down to 30%...

Yes, F95 is a good place for NEW developers to get some recognition and a base of supporters (paying and nonpaying) - the average being maybe 20-50 paying subscribers from all sources... but the average user here on F95 has never and will never subscribe to any developer. And the percentage of users (active or not) who do is not a significant percentage.
someone should take that fucking respected user tag away from your ass because this is embarassing
 

TFurguson69

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someone should take that fucking respected user tag away from your ass because this is embarassing
Don't ever write a review for a game here either, if the dev doesn't like it they delete it and smack you on the dick. I am actually surprised F95 didn't rewrite their dev agreement to accommodate this douchebag
 

vks017

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There are dozens, if not hundreds of sites like F95 - and not all of them are "english only" like F95. Are they all the size of F95? No. However, here is a screengrab of one site where you can "find" Summertime Saga while browsing games... with links available to the developer's website, etc:
View attachment 3618346
That's 70.4 million downloads from that website (of the APK - across all versions)... which is almost double the number of views of this thread, and the number of views of this thread is more than the number of downloads for Summertime Saga from F95.

Here's another site:
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And another:
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There are 600-700k paying subscribers to adult game creator on Patreon.

Look, even if you say they registered for an account in the past year in order to be active, 1.2 million did --- and you'd have to have nearly 100% of the adult game patreon subscribers be among them in order to get to 50% of those those newly added accounts in just the past year. It's 2.3 million in the past 2 years, now you've dropped down to 30%...

Yes, F95 is a good place for NEW developers to get some recognition and a base of supporters (paying and nonpaying) - the average being maybe 20-50 paying subscribers from all sources... but the average user here on F95 has never and will never subscribe to any developer. And the percentage of users (active or not) who do is not a significant percentage.
Is that 70M number legit? Seems inflated. There are many sites that don't give real numbers because they want your click and the add revenue that follows from it. I know from torrent sites more than anything. The most watched videos of all time on Pornhub are barely getting to those numbers.

After DC made his swerve so close to the abandoned tag on this site you will need more than just screenshots to prove this site had no impact at all on DC. Better to just give it a rest.
 
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