Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5595] [Kompas Productions]

[Count Morado]

Fun observation:

I took a screenshot of the progress tracker on

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almost 3 months ago. It looked like this:
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I dare you to take a look at how much progress the tracker has made...

Let me help you out.

Since starting on Debbie's rework, progress frozen.

That's not a chart for the end of January release. That's a chart for the work determined needed to complete the entire tech update.

Art has been at 98-99% for more than 2 years of the tech update development. It's been waiting on everything else.

Remember, that's based upon the tech update task list --- which Debbie's rework was not originally going to be part of the tech update. But partially because everything else is taking along time, as well as other reasons, DC decided to take this time to do Debbie's rework -- but that's not reflected in the data used to calculate the chart.

Someone has tracked all the points over the years and posted graphs in the past. Also, if you're really curious, you could always use the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine to look at the history of that page

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and the chart.

And finally, from my FAQ at #80,548:

• Progress Tracker for Tech Update (yes, number of tasks change - Tasks updated to better reflect completion)
  
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TL;DR: Because Debbie's rework was never to be part of the tech update - none of the actual progress on the tech update has been done while working on Debbie's rework. The progress chart won't change until after Debbie's rework is done and they go back to work on the tasks for the tech update.

 

[hotte]

UnRened both versions. WIP and the last old build. Main difference is, that they changed the folder structure and use more layered build images. There is almost no difference. When they want to add new stuff, do so. Most of the background images and probably the full cast is already in their "wip version art.rpa" and the "old versions images.rpa". Both similar in size and some images i checked, i can't see any differences.

 

[Remmer]

anyone got a save? wanna check what content is like after a year but cba play through it all again

 

[nn222]

Let me help you out. [...]

Cheers. I tried searching the thread for "86%" but it wasn't throwing up any relevant results, so I figured it wasn't discussed before.

edit: I'm a retard. I thought the search results were sorted recent to old instead of old to recent.

 

[Count Morado]

UnRened both versions. WIP and the last old build. Main difference is, that they changed the folder structure and use more layered build images. There is almost no difference. When they want to add new stuff, do so. Most of the background images and probably the full cast is already in their "wip version art.rpa" and the "old versions images.rpa". Both similar in size and some images i checked, i can't see any differences.

You couldn't see that the non-layered images were all changed with artwork added to change them from 4:3 to 16:9 display ratio? But you also know that the tech update is more than just updating the images, right?

anyone got a save? wanna check what content is like after a year but cba play through it all again

You don't have to play it all over again. First of all, not all the old content has migrated over to the preview of the tech update: Jenny content, some Debbie, some teachers, and a few other quick scenes. That's it.

Also, just like the old version - you can simply unlock the cookie jar CG gallery by clicking on the wi-fi symbol on the in-game cell phone enough times until it allows you into the menu to toggle the cookie jar on/off. No save required.

Cheers. I tried searching the thread for "86%" but it wasn't throwing up any relevant results, so I figured it wasn't discussed before.

No worries. Probably because I had it hidden in the spoiler.

 

[hotte]

You couldn't see that the non-layered images were all changed with artwork added to change them from 4:3 to 16:9 display ratio? But you also know that the tech update is more than just updating the images, right?

You don't have to play it all over again. First of all, not all the old content has migrated over to the preview of the tech update: Jenny content, some Debbie, some teachers, and a few other quick scenes. That's it.

Also, just like the old version - you can simply unlock the cookie jar CG gallery by clicking on the wi-fi symbol on the in-game cell phone enough times until it allows you into the menu to toggle the cookie jar on/off. No save required.

No worries. Probably because I had it hidden in the spoiler.

Haven't checked all images and I don't think that they manually one by one changed the aspect ratio of the images. Does this justify their "cleanup version" procedure? Like with every IT migration or system change in a company. You never cut the previous tool or program immediately. Shut down the previous version when the new version runs stable and exceeds the previous version. This process can take month's, even years.

 

[PayneToTheMax]

Yeah, you're right for that. Basically, I personally don't count same scenes framed differently as new scenes, but that's me.

I didn't play yesterday update because I will wait for a little more content before playing because right now, the remade is "meh" for me. Still waiting to see what more in store and can't wait to motorboat our fav big tiddy goth too.

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I'm gonna wait until you can actually sex Debbie, which might be next update given the scenes in this. But who knows?

Not like this is the only game on the website. I actually should ckeck how some of the others I haven't seen in a while are doing. Heard What A Legend got an update recently.

 

[Count Morado]

Haven't checked all images and I don't think that they manually one by one changed the aspect ratio of the images. Does this justify their "cleanup version" procedure? Like with every IT migration or system change in a company. You never cut the previous tool or program immediately. Shut down the previous version when the new version runs stable and exceeds the previous version. This process can take month's, even years.

Yes, Dark Cookie did go back in manually and change every single one of the non-layered images - so the background images, custom sex scene images, other images - from 4:3 to 16:9. You could have gone and watched him draw along the two edges to add more artwork to each and every one during his many streams on Picarto. He didn't simply crop the old images, he added more art to fill out the display ratio (and updated some of the scenes, in the process).

As for the rest, I know what you are saying. I also know that Dark Cookie didn't want to do it that way. if he did, he would have done it that way.

The stable version is still out there and can be downloaded for people to play for free - directly from the official website.

It will be there until the preview version that is being updated is brought up to snuff with the content from the stable version (whenever or if ever it is). Again, can be downloaded for people to play for free - directly from the official website.

Instead of drawing art, writing code, and posing the layers for two different versions at the same time, thus doubling their work effort in doing so --- Dark Cookie chose to freeze the previous version as the "stable" version while they do whatever it is they do on the tech update.

Though, for 18 months (March 2021 to October 2022) they did kind of do just that. They added 40+ alternate and additional sex scenes to already sexed LI's over those 18 months with 6 different pre-tech updates. They had to do art in both display ratios, they had to code for both the old and new version, and posing had to be done for the layering in both the old and new display ratios. Then they said fuck it to focus whatever they were doing on the new version.

People can play the one they choose (or both, if they so choose).

 

[hotte]

Yes, Dark Cookie did go back in manually and change every single one of the non-layered images - so the background images, custom sex scene images, other images - from 4:3 to 16:9. You could have gone and watched him draw along the two edges to add more artwork to each and every one during his many streams on Picarto. He didn't simply crop the old images, he added more art to fill out the display ratio (and updated some of the scenes, in the process).

As for the rest, I know what you are saying. I also know that Dark Cookie didn't want to do it that way. if he did, he would have done it that way.

The stable version is still out there and can be downloaded for people to play for free - directly from the official website.

It will be there until the preview version that is being updated is brought up to snuff with the content from the stable version (whenever or if ever it is). Again, can be downloaded for people to play for free - directly from the official website.

Instead of drawing art, writing code, and posing the layers for two different versions at the same time, thus doubling their work effort in doing so --- Dark Cookie chose to freeze the previous version as the "stable" version while they do whatever it is they do on the tech update.

People can play the one they choose (or both, if they so choose).

That's the point. If he does it manually, kudos to him. I am no artist and don't know how to draw or use Photoshop etc. But there is a reason why big publishers are Remastering their game. Game was good, let's polish it up and re-release it.

For me, it is still mismanagement. Previous version took 8 years to come to this point and I don't think that they magically speed up their work and finish the poolished version in 3 years.

I don't want to rant and I actually don't care. The thing that got me was the decision to abandon the old version without having nearly 10% of the previous build.

 

[SadHold]

any save?

 

[nemeca9885]

so this is the last tech update

 

[txe320]

so this is the last tech update

Not at all.

 

[Count Morado]

Previous version took 8 years to come to this point and I don't think that they magically speed up their work and finish the poolished version in 3 years.

I think all of us agree with you. Especially Dark Cookie and his team

any save?

For what? See this:

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You don't have to play it all over again. First of all, not all the old content has migrated over to the preview of the tech update: Jenny content, some Debbie, some teachers, and a few other quick scenes. That's it.​

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Also, just like the old version - you can simply unlock the cookie jar CG gallery by clicking on the wi-fi symbol on the in-game cell phone enough times until it allows you into the menu to toggle the cookie jar on/off. No save required.​

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[Count Morado]

New version is now available for the general public to download for free, direct from the developer (about 7 hours early and 2 iterations newer):

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[LegoFan]

If this game has been in development for 9 years (since 2016) there's a chance that GTA 6 will come first and possibly a few years after GTA 6... this game might be finished by then.. or not!

 

[Hollowstorm79]

I think all of us agree with you. Especially Dark Cookie and his team

For what? See this:

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Hori shet, respected user for a very obvious reason. Youre so polite and eloquent as fuck! Major props to you even though none of those questions and curiosities were any of mine, I loved your very detailed and precise answers. I appreciate peeps like you wherever I might encounter yall especially on a H-game site where its even less common lmao. Hope you have a nice day!

 

[Count Morado]

For those who care (and for those who don't) - My FAQ is updated: #80,548

 

[Dookieprincess]

so am I to understand that this update took away like 80% of the game?

 

[Ataman87]

so am I to understand that this update took away like 80% of the game?

Yep and it will take years (if at all) until they reach the old level of content. Let alone actually adding something new.

 

[Kitty Gamer]

i use to watch my husband play this game and i found it quite interesting totally love it especially if u follow the story line