- Jun 1, 2020
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this mans bitching because he doesn't know anything that is dumb
Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5597] [Kompas Productions]
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- Aug 4, 2023
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You're bitching about me and you don't know anything about me so....
- Jun 1, 2020
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me... bitching... about you??? HA you think your that important thas funny
- Jan 21, 2022
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You don't know how much it would cost to get the job done in the timeline you would like it done. You don't know how many staff it would require. You don't know how much money DC has. Again, while you can have an opinion - it's better to have a well-informed one otherwise you're just filling your britches.
Hell, had DC been better informed, he wouldn't have thought it would take only a few months in the first place. If he - from the inside with his knowledge and experience within his own creation - was mistaken... many of us on the outside are even more in error in whatever assumption we might attempt to make.
- Aug 4, 2023
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But still you keep answering me (even if you don't put me in your comment it's obviously to me), you decided to answer me so you are giving me importance.
- Aug 4, 2023
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Well, you have your opinions based on pirate modders, your information and defense about DC taking a ridiculous amount of time to update a game in Ren'Py with 2d art is just as valid as mine.
- Jan 21, 2022
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Again, I am not defending anyone. And no. You would be wrong because you are making an opinion from a position of being intentionally unaware without any interest in seeking information to create an informed opinion. So no, your opinion is not as valid.
- Aug 4, 2023
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My opinion is just as informed as yours, that you believe otherwise because some modder convinced you of it is your perception and that's fine but it's still just your opinion and in no way overshadows the opinion of others.
The fact that you respond to every post about it makes you defend a position, so yes, yes you are defending DC's way of working, a way that is clearly disorganized and poorly executed, so I maintain my position: DC could have finished this update a year and a half ago.
- Feb 4, 2017
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Maybe you should check how long some other 2d art games have taken in development without even a scrap of gameplay in it before talking shit about a game that, at least in the past, actually did offer some new things to play.
Let's take that STARLESS sequel, Great Pretender, that came out 4 years after their previous title Closed GAME and that’s a game that can be beaten within 3 hours.
- Jun 1, 2020
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you do know dc already finished the art for this and rhonda right?
images are not code. Images fall under "assets", which if you read what I wrote, I said to reuse.
You can't claim the issue is that the code is a mess cause he didn't know how to code when he started and then not understand that it easier to restart from scratch with the knowledge you have gained from your mistakes than to try to go in and find all the issues one by one and fix them. That process would cause more issues because as you fix the code you will create new conflicts. I'm sorry that that is outside of your understanding.
- Feb 25, 2018
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I never quite got why so many people defend this dev.
- Feb 6, 2018
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dude, just stop, your making yourself look like an even bigger fool
- Jan 21, 2022
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Um... duh?
If you read what I wrote - I included the discussion about code which you decided not to reference in your reply. Also, I included images because that is part of what is being redone in the work - and cannot simply be "reused," nearly 20k images having to be reposed in their layering to dynamically create the scenes on players screens... it's not simply the code. There is also the updated UI being worked on to enhance the mobile experience and more. The tech update is more than just the cleaning of the code.
Telling the truth and stating the information that is known is not defending - though I understand how some have a schema that anything which doesn't support their personal world view means that they are the opposition. I never got why people who download games for free on a 'pirate' website complain... well, honestly, I do - it goes to the sense of entitlement and superiority that is prevalent. And yes, I include myself in that.
Except he started less than a year ago, so how could he be finished a year and a half ago???
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Restarting from scratch doesn't mean it'll go any faster either, because it's still a game that's been developed for years that you are now starting all over again. Visual novel games can take years to create in Japan, too. And those have way less "gameplay" than Summertime Saga has. Making sure the code is future proof this time around, posing the characters with the new aspect ratio, ect is also a bitch to do due to the nature of the game not being 'one and done'.
But hey, you're apparently the expert, so why don't you enlighten DC with that wisdom of yours? :^)
- Dec 11, 2019
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Thats the thing though none of the artwork really needs reworked it was fine and one of the main factors that drew people to the game. Anither issue is he kept releasing these small updates in between the tech update, where honestly he should have just of used that time on the tech. Even then, there wasnt really anything wrong with how the game ran, some transitioms vould be annoying and sex scenes could be smoothed out but outside of that idk.
- Dec 11, 2019
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No he didnt the last major update was in 2021. Since that update they have been working on tech but shot themselves in foot by releasing small pre tech updates. It didnt help that the developer that was wrote most of the code and made a roadmap for the tech update left and when they brought a new person in the head to learn and work with hundred of thousands to millions of lines of code they didnt write