Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5605] [Kompas Productions]

[JKH18]

Thats your opinion.

Nope. Objectively looking at the titles you mentioned for instance, none require anywhere near the level of dedication and time in art alone that SS does. None have full custom hand drawn backgrounds, or the minigames etc mechanics SS has, and while GGGB for example used to have monthly updates, the amount of content provided has never been even close to the smallest of SS updates in recent memory.

 

[bosa43]

None of the above even approach the overall quality of SS. And not just saying as a fanboy, but objectively.

GGGB may not have the art gameplay mechanics but the multiple choices make it just as good as SS.

 

[Abracadaniel]

Nope. Objectively looking at the titles you mentioned for instance, none require anywhere near the level of dedication and time in art alone that SS does. None have full custom hand drawn backgrounds, or the minigames etc mechanics SS has, and while GGGB for example used to have monthly updates, the amount of content provided has never been even close to the smallest of SS updates in recent memory.

LOL just goes to show how much you know because Tales of Androgyny and GGGB both utilize hand drawn assets by artists who work on the game and in the case of Tales the team consist of only 2 people.

You just proved your biased though because any person who actually has played tales or GGGB would know that the artist who work on them actually post WIP of their work on twitter and show WIP updates. So thank you for showing that you are subjective about anything when compared to SS.

With that being said its best we just agree to disagree, no point flooding this thread with fanboy back and forth.

 

[JKH18]

GGGB may not have the art gameplay mechanics but the multiple choices make it just as good as SS.

Yours is an opinion, not an objective comparison. If multiple choices are what you appreciate, then I congratulate you. You've got hundreds of games here on this site to keep you content for years. Personally, I prefer something more than a simple VN with a so-so story.

 

[JKH18]

LOL just goes to show how much you know because Tales of Androgyny and GGGB both utilize hand drawn assets by artists who work on the game and in the case of Tales the team consist of only 2 people.

You just proved your biased though because any person who actually has played tales or GGGB would know that the artist who work on them actually post WIP of their work on twitter and show WIP updates. So thank you for showing that you are subjective about anything when compared to SS.

With that being said its best we just agree to disagree, no point flooding this thread with fanboy back and forth.

GGGB has original art? LMFAO If scanned porn pics, modified and coloured in compares to complete original art for you, then fine. Not to mention that GGGB uses a shitload of same exact art for multiple routes and scenes to boot.

 

[Abracadaniel]

GGGB has original art? LMFAO If scanned porn pics, modified and coloured in compares to complete original art for you, then fine. Not to mention that GGGB uses a shitload of same exact art for multiple routes and scenes to boot.

Your judgement is clouded with bias and emotion, hell the very notion of quality is a heavily opinionated basis so this argument in essence is redundant. You are free to continue thinking whatever you want tbh I could care less I just wanted to add my 2 cents. Summetime Saga is a good game but definitely not the best to me.

 

[bosa43]

Yours is an opinion, not an objective comparison. If multiple choices are what you appreciate, then I congratulate you. You've got hundreds of games here on this site to keep you content for years. Personally, I prefer something more than a simple VN with a so-so story.

Well yeah I thought it was obvious enough that it's an opinion that I'd have to literally write out "In my opinion"

 

[Jonboy80]

LOL just goes to show how much you know because Tales of Androgyny and GGGB both utilize hand drawn assets by artists who work on the game and in the case of Tales the team consist of only 2 people.

I'm not sure if I'd consider tracing outlines of actual pornographic images as "hand-drawn". I'm not knocking it's artwork, btw. Just saying there's a difference between free form drawing and tracing when it comes to quality, aesthetics and difficulty.

 

[Abracadaniel]

I'm not sure if I'd consider tracing outlines of actual pornographic images as "hand-drawn". I'm not knocking it's artwork, btw. Just saying there's a difference between free form drawing and tracing when it comes to quality, aesthetics and difficulty.

Doesnt change the fact that every month GGGB puts out consistent content updates.

Tales of Androgyny has a team of only 2 people and they draw their own characters/backgrounds/assets and everything else and they are putting out content on near weekly basis.

Everyone has their own opinion and likes/dislikes the topic is pretty much moot.

 

[bas]

Please take the off topic argument to PM or make a thread in "off-topic", and keep this thread about the game in the OP of this thread. Thanks

 

[j4yj4m]

Doesnt change the fact that every month GGGB puts out consistent content updates.

I think in general it's worth looking at the content in detail. In the very beginning SS had "bloated" content aswell. Jenny's old approach was a perfect example, where we had many quests (buying all those toys) and tasks (sneaking into her bed/shower, trading panties, etc. ) which created a lot of playtime yet required minimal additional work to implement. One may argue if reusing assets that way is good or bad and that's why it's rather hard to compare.

For SS I'd say getting rid of those simple "earn money -> buy stuff -> repeat" and other repeatable tasks lead to a huge increase when it comes to quality but it certainly leads to longer update circles etc., too.

I mean, it's not like DC couldn't split his updates into many smaller ones. He actually did that back in the past and back then people complained that the updates he released were inconclusive and felt unfinished. I personally certainly prefer one large, proper update so I can actually play the game and immerse. Getting small pieces every 4 weeks gets tiring to me at some point and I start to skip updates.

 

[Hero1]

I mean, it's not like DC couldn't split his updates into many smaller ones. He actually did that back in the past and back then people complained that the updates he released were inconclusive and felt unfinished.

DarkCookie seems to consider a middle ground, he just posted this on Discord:

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[jasfest]

DarkCookie seems to consider a middle ground, he just posted this on Discord:

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i remember back when the game was starting out we did the patreon poll to decide for either quick small updates or wait for beefier ones, nobody expected the wait time to be 6 month per update.

 

[Deleted member 426398]

i remember back when the game was starting out we did the patreon poll to decide for either quick small updates or wait for beefier ones, nobody expected the wait time to be 6 month per update.

Some of us did. Some of us did.

 

[j4yj4m]

DarkCookie seems to consider a middle ground, he just posted this on Discord:

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Yeah, I guess in those cases it makes quite a bit of sense. He talked about a possible MC/Consuela update (possibly 19.5?) for quite some time and 0.20 for the main story seems so massive (we've got like 4 or 5 girls/women?), that it makes sense to split it. I'd stil be surprised if he'd split actual character updates like 0.21 for Ronda though.

In the end it makes sense to reach at least 4 to 5 updates per year, alternating between longer and short ones, but it's never going to be like 9 or 10.

 

[JKH18]

DarkCookie seems to consider a middle ground, he just posted this on Discord:

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Not a bad idea this, especially since 0.20 is probably going to be by far the beefiest update yet, being all about the main story. It'll be interesting to see how big the 19.5 is going to be, since they're talking about multiple characters.

 

[Deleted member 205331]

C'mon DC, Please make 0.22 a Lucy and Annie update!!! But, now I can see it being released around 2021 ..#FML
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[Badjourasmix]

Splitting 0.20 in two parts makes sense. It will probably be the biggest update, and even the patrons probably wouldn't be happy if they had to wait more than 6 months between updates.

 

[CptRexx]

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C'mon DC, Please make 0.22 a Lucy and Annie update!!! But, now I can see it being released around 2021 ..#FML
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She is a side character. If people want to see her more, the team may work on her.

 

[JKH18]

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C'mon DC, Please make 0.22 a Lucy and Annie update!!! But, now I can see it being released around 2021 ..#FML
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Since 19.5 is going to be a bonus update, with multiple characters getting extra content, I think you've got a chance there to get at least some Annie content.