Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5605] [Kompas Productions]

[j4yj4m]

b) in my opinion those updates should be made directly after the main update is released

so for example: rhonda update is out --> ~2 months later she gets a couple additional scenes so people could decide if they want to play her route earlier or wait a couple months more and get the complete thing. basically make the additional scenes while hype and excitement for the specific girl is still big.

That's honestly not the best stragegy and I'm sure that's what any publisher would tell you. No matter how many scenes you'll add right away, those who like the character are going to want more anyway (see Jenny right now). You'd only make those happier who already liked the update/character and add nothing for those who didn't.
From a management point of view, it's much better to complete the normale update and to add the last small bits, bobs and scenes in between other updates, so those who like a character at least have chance to get something down the line and continue to follow the game, while those who don't like the character won't have to suffer through let's say 7 to 8 months of Judith only content.
If you tell people, that there's nothing left for them to look forward to, the chance they'll get really frustrated and stop caring is much higher and that's bad for any project.

DC has free reign to do what he wants with all his patreons and the result of that is what we're seeing now

Which is likely a way to keep himself motivated. At least to some degree.

 

[McSlut]

If you tell people, that there's nothing left for them to look forward to, the chance they'll get really frustrated and stop caring is much higher and that's bad for any project.

if this whole tech update cycle didn't make people stop caring and donating than nothing ever will

 

[j4yj4m]

if this whole tech update cycle didn't make people stop caring and donating than nothing ever will

Well, it kinda did? During the main story updates DC's earings still grew/were at least pretty much stable, while he slowly lost ~ $15k/month in earnings this year. Sure, he still makes a lot, but it's definitely noticeable.

 

[McSlut]

Well, it kinda did? During the main story updates DC's earings still grew/were at least pretty much stable, while he slowly lost ~ $15k/month in earnings this year. Sure, he still makes a lot, but it's definitely noticeable.

don't think he cares about growing earnings at this stage anymore, he has made fuck you money anyway already and spending more time with his family and not needing to work hard is probably much more valueable to him. like he was busting his ass in the first couple years of STS and you saw it in his streams. now if you look at his streams he works an hour drawing some bathroom tiles or something. i've also read this is still art he's doing for the rhonda update so him being finished with rhonda update art is completly false

 

[Tauro Thurius]

don't think he cares about growing earnings at this stage anymore, he has made fuck you money anyway already and spending more time with his family and not needing to work hard is probably much more valueable to him. like he was busting his ass in the first couple years of STS and you saw it in his streams. now if you look at his streams he works an hour drawing some bathroom tiles or something. i've also read this is still art he's doing for the rhonda update so him being finished with rhonda update art is completly false

He already finished the main story so everything else is "extra" in his opinion, thus he sleeps quite peacefully convincing himself that he already has delivered what he promised/advertised on Patreon.

In his defense, this game has loads of content already and he has no notion of abandoning the project so most of the fans just suck up and wait patiently for slow updates.

All I hope for is that he rekindles that passion he had years ago and start working hard on this project for the sake of his fans.

 

[j4yj4m]

don't think he cares about growing earnings at this stage anymore, he has made fuck you money anyway already and spending more time with his family and not needing to work hard is probably much more valueable to him. like he was busting his ass in the first couple years of STS and you saw it in his streams. now if you look at his streams he works an hour drawing some bathroom tiles or something.

I mean, you are comparing a guy whose wife was just pregnant with their first child and who still did drunk streams every other night, to somebody who has three young children. People have to be aware that they literally demand DC on missing out on his own children growing up because they want their porn. Sure, it's fair to say that he's working a bit less than before, but there's certainly a reason for that. Next to that it's also fair to say that very few people will manage to work literally "the whole day" on one project without some kind of alternation or hiatus for years without buring out.

Then again, I don't think there's as much of a difference as people tend to say. The quality and number of larger assets (scenes, cut scenes, etc.) has improved a lot over the years and that's taking quite a bit of time, too.

i've also read this is still art he's doing for the rhonda update so him being finished with rhonda update art is completly false

I don't know why people are even claiming that (probably because he did start with Ronda's art ages ago?). A few months ago DC said that he'd like to be about "half done" with Ronda by christmas, which seems somewhat realistic to me, thought I'd guess that he's a bit behind schedule, as usual.

 

[Joop501]

Have a life please

 

[Joop501]

You can make choices or you have to be homeless

 

[trolololo2]

It'll be 2 years at the end of March

Jesus Christ. Hopefully we see the light at the end of the tunnel soon.

 

[Joop501]

Jesus Christ. Hopefully we see the light at the end of the tunnel soon.

your problem trolololo2 you clearly can't go normally

 

[SonofOrion]

lmao ... you left out the part that it has been at "79%" for what??? 2-3 months? (prolly more?) regardless of your attempt to mislead ... it has been, and still is ...halted at 79%.

When I copied it, I copied it from the official website.

 

[StreamSteam]

Roxxy's update took more than 3 months, which isn't what the other dude was claiming. Try again

It was his claim!
0.16 showed that DC can pull out a big update in about three months with a lot of scenes, many still claim that the roxxy update was the best.
That has shown that if DC wants to, he can release a big update within a quarter

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[Joop501]

The game is just dead

 

[Omnikuken]

It was his claim!
0.16 showed that DC can pull out a big update in about three months with a lot of scenes, many still claim that the roxxy update was the best.
That has shown that if DC wants to, he can release a big update within a quarter

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If R(h)onda's update doesn't take a year and is on par with those, you might have a point. Big if

 

[j4yj4m]

It was his claim!
0.16 showed that DC can pull out a big update in about three months with a lot of scenes, many still claim that the roxxy update was the best.
That has shown that if DC wants to, he can release a big update within a quarter

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It's not the perfect comparison, though. Roxxy's update was the last one without any reworks, without the rig-system, without pregnancy and the first one, which had AEHentai do the animations, which likely means they took some time beforehand to figure everything out, too.

I'm not saying that it wasn't a really good update, but just that it's different to what we started to get with 0.17 onward. And that doesn't even include the fact, that DC by now has two more children compared to back then.

 

[Deleted member 2871870]

This thread has just become a ouroboros cycle. People complain about milking, Omnikuken just roasts them, count morado keeps posting FAQs, and the cycle continues

 

[Joop501]

this man using twitter ratio rules

Look at the extensions please ,LIU, Roxxy. Sister Angelica, Diane, Mrs Smith
And so I can go on and on

 

[Joop501]

Look at the extensions please ,LIU, Roxxy. Sister Angelica, Diane, Mrs Smith
And so I can go on and on

It's not personal, but thinking about it can't hurt

 

[sirviper235]

In my opinion to all this, the problem is pretty simple. This tech update has taken way too long, and quite frankly feels dragged out deliberately. And the main story was not really that investing or that good honestly so that’s why people don’t really care for it. It’s not like any of its been bad. But the main story was not really a good decision to go with in the long run. Since people clearly don’t really enjoy it that much.

As well, when people are complaining about the updates, my opinion as simple. These aren’t really updates. They are padding. They are just new scenes and mini stories to tide us over. With girls most don’t really care about or want to see more stuff with and this is honestly been an issue for a while.

The game has a bad habit of adding in a bunch of girls. No one asked for and then giving them a bunch of focus and content. Like seriously did anyone actually want these knock offs of trumps family? And did anyone want so much story with them? Their entire storyline is basically just one big meme about orange man bad, and wouldn’t it be fun to bang his daughter and wife. And mind you the entire Appeal And joke of the updates are super outdated now that we are way past that time period.

And this could’ve been fine if it didn’t take time and focus away from girls like Judith, who were there from the start of the game and have not been given even the remote amount of attention they deserve and honestly need.

I mean, let’s be real out something here. Girls like Odette and Grace are fun, but they really didn’t need more scenes. Especially Odette. Nobody dislikes her but it’s not like at the same time and he was going to say she’s really deserving of all this attention when she’s basically just a reference to Sam from Danny phantom if she wasn’t annoying and had big breast.

That’s why I call all of the padding. This is stuff with girls. No one really asked or voted for, and they’re just kind of thrown in for the sake of it. All of this should’ve been added, after the school girls, and the other characters establish early on were given plenty of content.

Sure, it’s something, but not what people really wanted or cared about.

 

[Xander Fields]

when is it a full moon i skipping days and no full moon

Now that you say that I forgot about meeting Odette in the grave yard lmao