Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5605] [Kompas Productions]

[BowSlayer]

What does the "pre-tech" denote? What is going to be the "tech" version?

 

[Count Morado]

What does the "pre-tech" denote? What is going to be the "tech" version?

If only that had been discussed here before and could be searched for in the thread so that people wouldn't have to ask these new and unknowable questions...

Oh wait, both questions have been discussed many times in this thread and the answers are easily found. So many times that they are included in the FAQ below -- the 73rd posting of it in the past 12 months.

See #9 and #10 for the answers to your questions. Also, I recommend #1.

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[TGafy]

If only that had been discussed here before and could be searched for in the thread so that people wouldn't have to ask these new and unknowable questions...

Oh wait, both questions have been discussed many times in this thread and the answers are easily found. So many times that they are included in the FAQ below -- the 73rd posting of it in the past 12 months.

See #9 and #10 for the answers to your questions. Also, I recommend #1.

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Don't mind me, this just reminded me of a wager made last year.

20$ we get to FAQ 100 before the end of the year

 

[j4yj4m]

not sure what happened between those two but i wish DC would rehire dogeek to help with the tech update

1. as far as i know he suggested the tech update in the first place
2. he works full time
3. judging by the progress the update is making he was also the more skilled coder

yes i know DC would never do this, i'm just saying if he gave a shit about his patreons there would be solutions to speeding up development

As said before, the issue doesn't seem to be coding, but mainly the time it takes to repose every asset in the game. Given how the tracker works, a coding task won't/can't be completed, before the corresponding posing task is done.

Next to that I think that Dogeek's way of working would be especially bad for the tech update, given that he never really seemed to have bothered to actually test his code beyond some very basic stuff, before they released the updates.

 

[Omnikuken]

Don't mind me, this just reminded me of a wager made last year.

I got robbed of a few # updates, cause he linked to it instead of posting it again and increase the #. We should be at ~80 by now. But since he cheated, the wager is nulled and I keep my $. On top of that sweet sweet shilling $ DC gives me everytime I post in here

 

[Tanliarian]

Not trying to be a dick pointing this out, just legitimately curious at this point? What year did the tech update start? Like I can't even remember anymore if was it 2020. 2019? 2018?! I don't think it was that far back, and there have been pretty regular content releases during the update, but I'm honestly not sure when it started anymore...

 

[Omnikuken]

Not trying to be a dick pointing this out, just legitimately curious at this point? What year did the tech update start? Like I can't even remember anymore if was it 2020. 2019? 2018?! I don't think it was that far back, and there have been pretty regular content releases during the update, but I'm honestly not sure when it started anymore...

March 31st, 2021. Just go check either the FAQ with all the release dates or the main page/wiki

 

[KillerBee487]

80% 18 Jan 2023 (442/551 tasks)
80% 03 Jan 2023 (441/551 tasks)
79% 03 Dec 2022 (434/546 tasks)
79% 07 Nov 2022 (434/546 tasks)
77%: 03 Oct 2022 (411/530 tasks)
77%: 10 Sep 2022 (398/513 tasks)
75%: 03 Aug 2022 (382/503 tasks)
75%: 10 Jul 2022 (371/491 tasks)
73%: 10 Jun 2022 (358/484 tasks)
69%: 07 May 2022 (330/475 tasks)
72%: 29 Apr 2022 (227/315 tasks)
69%: 07 Apr 2022 (211/302 tasks)
70%: 03 Apr 2022 (209/301 tasks)
68%: 07 Mar 2022 (202/295 tasks)
66%: 08 Feb 2022 (191/287 tasks)
63%: 04 Jan 2022 (173/273 tasks)
60%: 09 Nov 2021 (162/269 tasks)
58%: 07 Oct 2021 (151/259 tasks)

Man these changes are hilarious xd 22% in 1 and a 1/2 year. God bless us all

 

[Omnikuken]

80% 18 Jan 2023 (442/551 tasks)
80% 03 Jan 2023 (441/551 tasks)
79% 03 Dec 2022 (434/546 tasks)
79% 07 Nov 2022 (434/546 tasks)
77%: 03 Oct 2022 (411/530 tasks)
77%: 10 Sep 2022 (398/513 tasks)
75%: 03 Aug 2022 (382/503 tasks)
75%: 10 Jul 2022 (371/491 tasks)
73%: 10 Jun 2022 (358/484 tasks)
69%: 07 May 2022 (330/475 tasks)
72%: 29 Apr 2022 (227/315 tasks)
69%: 07 Apr 2022 (211/302 tasks)
70%: 03 Apr 2022 (209/301 tasks)
68%: 07 Mar 2022 (202/295 tasks)
66%: 08 Feb 2022 (191/287 tasks)
63%: 04 Jan 2022 (173/273 tasks)
60%: 09 Nov 2021 (162/269 tasks)
58%: 07 Oct 2021 (151/259 tasks)

Man these changes are hilarious xd 22% in 1 and a 1/2 year. God bless us all

Hilarious how they doubled the amount of total tasks during that time too, good thing people can actually do basic math

 

[McSlut]

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one day we will get her update

 

[Silkymilk]

Annie best girl. Annie when?

 

[dirgetka]

Serious question. Does anyone truly believe that the code refactoring involved in the tech update will actually improve the speed of updates, as was suggested at the outset? I'm sure the intention was to reshape the codebase into something more sleek and easy-to-debug so that the production of new quests could be smoother and quicker to test, but if we're being honest surely we all expect it to be equally cumbersome to dev for, just in different ways?

Annie best girl. Annie when?

2026 at the earliest imo

 

[Landcat001]

Teoretically speaking it should help. As some of the optimized code could be repurposed for other characters.

 

[j4yj4m]

Serious question. Does anyone truly believe that the code refactoring involved in the tech update will actually improve the speed of updates, as was suggested at the outset? I'm sure the intention was to reshape the codebase into something more sleek and easy-to-debug so that the production of new quests could be smoother and quicker to test, but if we're being honest surely we all expect it to be equally cumbersome to dev for, just in different ways?

It certainly seems like it'll make working with these art assests more convenient and intuitive. Then again, I'd still think that the overal savings in time will be minor. Once we return to normal updates, everything more or less depends on how fast DC can deliver the art assets and the really big, time consuming items (scenes, cut scenes, backgrounds etc.) won't be affacted by the tech stuff at all.
All in all I don't think it's going to lead to actually significant improvements in terms of update speed.

 

[Sgrodolo]

80% 18 Jan 2023 (442/551 tasks)
80% 03 Jan 2023 (441/551 tasks)
79% 03 Dec 2022 (434/546 tasks)
79% 07 Nov 2022 (434/546 tasks)
77%: 03 Oct 2022 (411/530 tasks)
77%: 10 Sep 2022 (398/513 tasks)
75%: 03 Aug 2022 (382/503 tasks)
75%: 10 Jul 2022 (371/491 tasks)
73%: 10 Jun 2022 (358/484 tasks)
69%: 07 May 2022 (330/475 tasks)
72%: 29 Apr 2022 (227/315 tasks)
69%: 07 Apr 2022 (211/302 tasks)
70%: 03 Apr 2022 (209/301 tasks)
68%: 07 Mar 2022 (202/295 tasks)
66%: 08 Feb 2022 (191/287 tasks)
63%: 04 Jan 2022 (173/273 tasks)
60%: 09 Nov 2021 (162/269 tasks)
58%: 07 Oct 2021 (151/259 tasks)

Man these changes are hilarious xd 22% in 1 and a 1/2 year. God bless us all

Wait until they start bugfixing!
That aside the number of tasks doubled and you got multiple pre-tech updates during that time

 

[WigglyWorld84]

Serious question. Does anyone truly believe that the code refactoring involved in the tech update will actually improve the speed of updates, as was suggested at the outset? I'm sure the intention was to reshape the codebase into something more sleek and easy-to-debug so that the production of new quests could be smoother and quicker to test, but if we're being honest surely we all expect it to be equally cumbersome to dev for, just in different ways?


2026 at the earliest imo

If only they could hire a.... Freelancer... to help finish this!

Man, I loved that game. Anything with John Rys Davies is great though. Cant think of anything he's done that was lacking... I even like when he tells you how to wear a seatbelt on the disneyland indiana jones ride.

ok, carry on with your on-topic discussions.

 

[Omnikuken]

Serious question. Does anyone truly believe that the code refactoring involved in the tech update will actually improve the speed of updates, as was suggested at the outset? I'm sure the intention was to reshape the codebase into something more sleek and easy-to-debug so that the production of new quests could be smoother and quicker to test, but if we're being honest surely we all expect it to be equally cumbersome to dev for, just in different ways?

There's no place where any1 on the dev team stated it would go faster. Less of a mess, yes. No need to unfuck the code every build, yes. Might help with outputting test builds for bugfixing, yes. Not "Dc can now draw an entire update within a day and the coder just imports the un-posed assets and the game will output content on its own" .....

 

[ffive]

Hilarious how they doubled the amount of total tasks during that time too, good thing people can actually do basic math

Doesn't necessarily mean much if anything. E.g. it's not that uncommon to take what was originally a single task and split it into sub-tasks entered separately for easier tracking and maintenance, but it doesn't affect actual amount of work that needs to be done.

But yes, people who can't do anything beyond basic math might get impressed.

 

[CoolHandChewie]

Why is the coder only part-time?

exactly he makes enough in one month to pay for a full time code money for a year....

 

[Omnikuken]

Doesn't necessarily mean much if anything. E.g. it's not that uncommon to take what was originally a single task and split it into sub-tasks entered separately for easier tracking and maintenance, but it doesn't affect actual amount of work that needs to be done.

But yes, people who can't do anything beyond basic math might get impressed.

They also almost 3x the amount of done tasks, which means they actually did something, on top of splitting the to-do list just to pad the tracker