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Given all this. DC job at this point should be:
1. upscale current assets, for high resolution AI training
2. Develop new characters and their arcs stories.
3. Work on world building, locations, scenes.
It's as if you have been reading the thread...
  1. He's been creating in 4K resolution for years with the art downscaled for the game. See: 60,181
  2. That's what they have been doing for years and why there are so many characters already -- and adding more. See: 63,187 and
    (Museum)
    (Gym)
    (Computer Lab)
  3. Again, that's what they have been doing. See the museum, and others. Also note from the changelog for v0.21.0.0-wip.4468:
there is a hijabi? i dont remember that, was she in the game or just sketches?
(Computer Lab)
 
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It's as if you have been reading the thread...
  1. He's been creating in 4K resolution for years with the art downscaled for the game. See: 60,181
  2. That's what they have been doing for years and why there are so many characters already -- and adding more. See: 63,187 and
    (Museum)
    (Gym)
    (Computer Lab)
  3. Again, that's what they have been doing. See the museum, and others. Also note from the changelog for v0.21.0.0-wip.4468:
(Computer Lab)
im so disappointed, this is just that bitch from that one porn movie
 

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He's been creating in 4K resolution for years with the art downscaled for the game. See: 60,181
huh, I missed that one.

so if the content was all in the right resolution to begin with before being downscaled for the game...
then what is the fucking holdup with the tech update?

He already has the art. Are you telling me it took him 2 years to figure out how to switch the images in a renpy game?
And then he removed 90% of them for no reason?
 

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huh, I missed that one.

so if the content was all in the right resolution to begin with before being downscaled for the game...
then what is the fucking holdup with the tech update?

He already has the art. Are you telling me it took him 2 years to figure out how to switch the images in a renpy game?
And then he removed 90% of them for no reason?
Nope, he remade the game when the "abandoned" tag was up. Most likely, I said it was probably a calculated move.
 

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huh, I missed that one.

so if the content was all in the right resolution to begin with before being downscaled for the game...
then what is the fucking holdup with the tech update?

He already has the art. Are you telling me it took him 2 years to figure out how to switch the images in a renpy game?
And then he removed 90% of them for no reason?
Resolution (number of pixels) =/= display ratio

Display ratio is simply in what comparison the width is to the height. (400x300 is 4:3 - so is 1200x900, 1920x1080, 2880x2160)

The art was drawn with displaying 4:3 ratio until the tech update started April 2021:
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The resolution he works with is a canvas around 2160 pixels (approximate) in height. However, since the game was originally 4:3 - instead of drawing 3840 pixels wide for background images and the map - DC was drawing them around 2900 pixels wide.

In converting to 16:9 display ratio for backgrounds - he had to draw content in the other 900 pixels (see map as an example):


Remember, the characters in the game are made up of layers (example - but not the actual labels: Anon_head, Anon_body, Anon_arms, Anon_legs, Anon_face_happy, etc) which must then be posed in the correct order and location on the body, as well as the correct position on the backgrounds for each scene.

All the layers were coded for positioning in the 4:3 backgrounds. All those layers need re-coded for positioning in the 16:9 backgrounds. On top of this, DC's naming structure was a mess, very little rhyme/reason/consistency. So the posers had to rebuild the naming structure (and also the way the files are stored in the game within folders, etc).

In the meantime, DC also had started updating his art style - and has been updating the looks of various characters. He wasn't done with all of Debbie's style update for the first tech update preview released at the end of May - and that is how players see some of Debbie's art in the old style and some in the new.
 
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Incest patch is not even starting the game.
When people ask for help, they should state which version they are attempting to play and what they are using. That way we can help more simply with less if/then statements.

The patch linked from OP is written for v0.21.0.0-wip.4468. If that is the version you are using it on, then most likely you did something wrong (Did you extract the /src folder into your /game folder within the Summertime Saga directory?). If you are playing v0.20.5 - v0.20.16, then you want to use this patch: 56,979.

See my FAQ at 80,607 for more.
 

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When people ask for help, they should state which version they are attempting to play and what they are using. That way we can help more simply with less if/then statements.

The patch linked from OP is written for v0.21.0.0-wip.4468. If that is the version you are using it on, then most likely you did something wrong (Did you extract the /src folder into your /game folder within the Summertime Saga directory?). If you are playing v0.20.5 - v0.20.16, then you want to use this patch: 56,979.

See my FAQ at 80,607 for more.
I am playing the right version for the op patch. Is it because I changed the names of Debbie and the daughter so it can't find the name DEBBIE to replace it with MOM??
 

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I am playing the right version for the op patch. Is it because I changed the names of Debbie and the daughter so it can't find the name DEBBIE to replace it with MOM??
I didn't write the patch so I don't know how it works. I don't use the patch, either. I did download that patch after seeing your first post, extracted the /src folder as explained by the person who wrote the patch, and the game started with no problem.
However, simply changing the name of the characters to something different shouldn't keep the game from starting with the patch in it. If the patch was written properly, it would just skip translating lines if it can't find what it is looking for, leaving the original lines. You could and ask them.

You could test your assumption by making sure the game is exited, deleting the /src folder, start the game, rename them back to Debbie and Jenny, exit the game, extract the /src folder into the /game folder of the Summertime Saga directory, and try to start the game to see if it works.
 
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I didn't write the patch so I don't know how it works. I don't use the patch, either. I did download that patch after seeing your first post, extracted the /src folder as explained by the person who wrote the patch, and the game started with no problem.
However, simply changing the name of the characters to something different shouldn't keep the game from starting with the patch in it. If the patch was written properly, it would just skip translating lines if it can't find what it is looking for, leaving the original lines. You could and ask them.

You could test your assumption by making sure the game is exited, deleting the /src folder, start the game, rename them back to Debbie and Jenny, exit the game, extract the /src folder into the /game folder of the Summertime Saga directory, and try to start the game to see if it works.
Although I appreciate the effort, this patch is changing a bunch of original script files, and can easily break in future updates. It will also be more and more difficult to maintain as new updates roll out.

There are afaik two incest patches that changes dialogue on the fly, using both code and the translation system, without touching the original files:

1. Extra Lines Incest Mod

This is using the original lewd patcher incest patch, updated to work with the new version and has a bunch of additional lines fixed with the translation system.

2. Relation Tweaker Mod
https://f95zone.to/threads/summertime-saga-relation-tweaker-mod-raschi.214780/
This is an expansion of the original lewd patcher incest patch, which lets you choose between incest and step family relations.

Both of these should be much more robust and easier to maintain regarding future updates.
 
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