Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6440] [Kompas Productions]

[j4yj4m]

All good and shit but for that kind of money here you need to move big game coke or horse. He earns like what minimum 32k (its alot more that that but for reference) thats why people are trash talking because its insane amounts of money. High end CGI artists are paid that kind of money.

That's not how art works though. Just because actors, musicians, etc. earn insane amounts of money doesn't mean that one would expect them to double, tripple, quadruple their output. If your favourite band releases an LP every year, it doesn't matter if they earn 1, 2 or 100 million bucks from it, the next album won't come any faster. The same is true here as long as DC draws every bit of art himself and wants to assure his standards. Just because he earns twice the money doesn't mean, that he can actually, physically work twice as much. After all we aren't talking about DAZ or honey select renders where money actually matters and which you can hand over to anybody with a bit of skill to produce as many of them as you want, as long as the models are ready and as long as you've got potent hardware.

Art is the big bottleneck of this game and as long as DC doesn't find an artist who fulfills everything he needs/wants, the speed won't change, no matter the money. And people are of course free to apply, if they think they can do it - DC said it several times on stream.

 

[JimboKern]

He's making more than some doctors.

Yet he's churning out content this slowly.

Maybe in the third world.

 

[Deleted member 426398]

This is an outright lie he has hired coder, writer, and poser. You this because Dogeek posted on the forum.

What part of more is misunderstood?

Hey, it's almost like you've ignored his comments about the situation over and over. He tried out at least one person for art, it didn't work out. And he hired multiple other people to help on the project.

Please go troll elsewhere, you really add nothing to this thread.

It's almost as if I don't believe them because you see it in nearly every other medium....and it's not like the person needs to do all the work, they just need to help lighten the load, in terms of the art. I don't buy that no one else on the planet is capable of doing that. If people quit looking for help because one person they looked at didn't work out then nothing would ever get done.

 

[BoykaBoykov]

With his budget he should be able to hire someone to work with him. Here, this took me like... 15 minutes, tops.




It's not even close to perfect but it at least doesn't have her tits growing out of her sternum. His art has some serious flaws and is unacceptable quality for the amount of money that's put into it.

 

[atlas114]

wow boyka really like your rendition of Jenny!

to be honest i haven’t played since 0.13 and was waiting for the Jenny update to be released. but the new rework is kinda turning me off and i might just swear off the game entirely if he is spending half the year redoing art instead of moving the story forward. but my opinion is just that as i’m not a patron.

 

[secretsonny]

With his budget he should be able to hire someone to work with him. Here, this took me like... 15 minutes, tops.


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It's not even close to perfect but it at least doesn't have her tits growing out of her sternum. His art has some serious flaws and is unacceptable quality for the amount of money that's put into it.

Your torso is either too long or not wide enough. I understand why you did the jawline but in all truth the original was fine. The breasts are too high and too small (maybe). Extending the length of the neck was unnecessary. I didn't think of it before but addition of a spine line and shoulder blade is a good idea.

Decent attempt.

All DC had to do was slightly decrease the size of the head and slightly lift the torso up a bit.

 

[j4yj4m]

I didn't think of it before but addition of a spine line and shoulder blade is a good ide.

As far as I see it DC removed most of those lines for softer shading in the new art, so one has to be very carefully to not get inconsistent across different poses and characters. I'd guess that's partly done so animations seem more fluid (and of course to save time).

I agree about the head, but it wouldn't be the first head he fixes ...

 

[chilblainn]

With his budget he should be able to hire someone to work with him. Here, this took me like... 15 minutes, tops.




It's not even close to perfect but it at least doesn't have her tits growing out of her sternum. His art has some serious flaws and is unacceptable quality for the amount of money that's put into it.

you should draw an original piece and let us know how long it takes please

 

[DD69-1]

m sorry but can someone pls explain how the save system works..?
i wont be able to use this save in the new version right, so how am i to continue? i have to play the game again? any workaround .. thank you

 

[j4yj4m]

m sorry but can someone pls explain how the save system works..?
i wont be able to use this save in the new version right, so how am i to continue? i have to play the game again? any workaround .. thank you

Unless they provide a new and fitting save, which they did last update, you'll indeed have to play again - there's no way around that. But given that updates aren't consecutive and that the next update will be about Jenny, her "new" content will likely start from day one. That means you can probably just play the new content right away (including some stat regrinds) and that's it. I'm fairly sure there won't be a need to replay that much other content - at least that's how it has been until now.

 

[DD69-1]

Unless they provide a new and fitting save, which they did last update, you'll indeed have to play again - there's no way around that. But given that updates aren't consecutive and that the next update will be about Jenny, her "new" content will likely start from day one. That means you can probably just play the new content right away (including some stat regrinds) and that's it. I'm fairly sure there won't be a need to replay that much other content - at least that's how it has been until now.

Thanks man

 

[petur]

With his budget he should be able to hire someone to work with him. Here, this took me like... 15 minutes, tops.


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It's not even close to perfect but it at least doesn't have her tits growing out of her sternum. His art has some serious flaws and is unacceptable quality for the amount of money that's put into it.

Your version is shit. I am sorry.

 

[Venia]

Your version is shit. I am sorry.

Well, thats how a young Female body is supposed to look like.

 

[Bbshit]

Maybe in the third world.

Wait you think that in first world countries Doctors make more than 48k a month? You know if that was true then they wouldn't be under crippling debt for over 5 years right?

 

[Skinner]

Your version is shit. I am sorry.

Wow! Your version is the best I've ever seen! Why are you here posting comments like this instead of applying for an artist position to get some of that sweet money he's getting! Wait... I think my eyes are deceiving me. I must've been hallucinating. I could've sworn you attached an image... but now I'm unable to see it. I could've sworn I saw an attached image that put theirs to shame. I tried looking through your history to find it... and gosh, I'm not seeing any artwork you've done.

Are we done being children? I sure hope so. That paragraph took a lot of effort to get the level just right.

 

[Aluks90]

With his budget he should be able to hire someone to work with him. Here, this took me like... 15 minutes, tops.


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It's not even close to perfect but it at least doesn't have her tits growing out of her sternum. His art has some serious flaws and is unacceptable quality for the amount of money that's put into it.

I think it's really nice work man. Just need bigger boobs, for science of course.

 

[obibobi]

Wow! Your version is the best I've ever seen! Why are you here posting comments like this instead of applying for an artist position to get some of that sweet money he's getting! Wait... I think my eyes are deceiving me. I must've been hallucinating. I could've sworn you attached an image... but now I'm unable to see it. I could've sworn I saw an attached image that put theirs to shame. I tried looking through your history to find it... and gosh, I'm not seeing any artwork you've done.

Are we done being children? I sure hope so. That paragraph took a lot of effort to get the level just right.

I don't know what this argument is about, but this thing you're doing here, where you think you can only criticize something if you also create something better is really stupid and heaven help you if you need someone to explain why.

 

[j4yj4m]

I'd guess this whole discussion shoud have taken place in the "fan art" topic anyway. In the end it's not really about what looks better or worse, or about what one likes more or less, but about consistency starting from proportions and style and proportions to small details like shading and linework. Next to that it's about individual creatitivity, a certain like-mindedness and speed. Most people who draw professionally will be able to produce art that comes close to what DC does and most wll be able to draw something that looks better and more detailed if they want to - some faster, some slower - but that's not the point it's about after all.

And as mentioned before, those who think they can do it or who think they know someone who can, are free to send a portfolio.

 

[GamesMtP]

With his budget he should be able to hire someone to work with him. Here, this took me like... 15 minutes, tops.


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It's not even close to perfect but it at least doesn't have her tits growing out of her sternum. His art has some serious flaws and is unacceptable quality for the amount of money that's put into it.

What's wrong with tits that hang down below the navel? Everyone's great grandma have them!

 

[Gutsandguts]

remember that DC is a human, like all of us here, has a real life, a job, debts, kids, and so on. so is logical that things doesn't go as planned from time to time, and watching you guys trash-talking about a real life stuff is frankly dissapointing

It has been this way for years though? If he's working on the game and has a full time job on the side then that would be easy to forgive but the game is his job and his work ethic doesn't seem that great so far as we can tell.

Nobody's life is so chaotic that they should take this long to develop their work, sure he puts effort in but compared to most people with all that money he's sure taking it easy. There's creators on Patreon who barely earn 10% of what SS does who put out content far faster.
I don't see why it's not okay to be unsatisfied with this, what genuine reason is there for it to be this slow?
"Life stuff" is a pretty poor reason when every other creator has a life too, DC isn't the only person on the planet who's going to run in to problems from time to time.

Unless he owes money to a Mexican drug cartel who leaves him with $50 each month he easily has the resources to have the game developed faster than this.