Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6440] [Kompas Productions]

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akashanki said:
Bro, I'm just seeing too much of the 'don't like it, don't play it' vibe here. Like, who the hell likes being lied to and scammed? I get that some lame-ass people enjoy being a developer's bitch, but for me, that's not normal behavior and shouldn't be encouraged.
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Except you have neither been lied to nor scammed. But go ahead and whine while tossing a non-existent victim card.

So, yeah. There's that.
 
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dirgetka said:
You're on F95Zone. You're browsing the Summertime Saga thread. You're awaiting the next update, which will hopefully add some of Diane's content into the game (but you doubt it will finish her storyline). The code for the game is a mess, and is allegedly the core driver slowing down development. The dating system hasn't been introduced to the game yet. The lifeguard only has one h-scene. Judith doesn't have a storyline yet. People are arguing about whether or not DC is a scammer. The guy from The Apprentice is US president.

The year is 2017.
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So here's what I don't understand. This game has been in "tech update" dev hell for fucken aaaaaaaaages, and in the meanwhile it's had some sprinklings of content, but what's the whole point of this if the continued development is gonna keep up this pace? I'm gonna be a fucken old man with kids and grandkids at this point before the game's done.

What's the bottleneck in development here? What can we as consumers do to help speed this process up?
 
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niceXnips said:
So here's what I don't understand. This game has been in "tech update" dev hell for fucken aaaaaaaaages, and in the meanwhile it's had some sprinklings of content, but what's the whole point of this if the continued development is gonna keep up this pace? I'm gonna be a fucken old man with kids and grandkids at this point before the game's done.

What's the bottleneck in development here? What can we as consumers do to help speed this process up?
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The bottleneck at this point is basically DC and his piss-poor management skills. Unless you've got like $10M lying around to buy him out, fire him, and take over development yourself with a new team there's really not much you or anyone else can do to speed up the process.
 
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The bottleneck is the developer is making a lot of cash doing this less than a part time job. Any other explanation offered simply is his cultists refusing to see the obvious. Many would do similar if they were in his position and he is too much of a perfectionist to delegate the work to others.
Sure poor project management could have been an excuse a few years ago but even the worst project manager in the world could have done better by now if there was motivation.
 
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niceXnips said:
I'm gonna be a fucken old man with kids and grandkids at this point before the game's done.

What's the bottleneck in development here? What can we as consumers do to help speed this process up?
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Dark Cookie has no plans to "finish" Summertime Saga. He has said so since at least 2017. As long as he has ideas, enjoys drawing characters and scenes, and fans want more content then he has said he'll keep going.

The code is the bottleneck. The posing of the thousands of images to the new display ratio is the bottleneck. Dark Cookie not being a good project manager is the bottleneck. Wanting to make Ren'Py do things most developers don't do with the engine is the bottleneck. There are others.

You are not a consumer. I am not a consumer. We are not consumers. We may consume the content, but we do not pay compensation in exchange for the game and therefore we do not meet the definition, legal or otherwise, of consumers. Dark Cookie makes the game free to everyone to download from his website and thus there are no consumers.

There are subscribers and the get other things for their membership. The game is not one of them.

They have already done what they can do to attempt to speed up the process. A number of them continue to bug him for content. However, he has also told people if they aren't happy with the progress, they should cancel their subscription. He has stated he gets bitched at by some people for doing what other people want and the when he does something else, he gets bitched at by another group of people. So he'll do what he wants, and what makes him happy, because he'll get bitched at no matter what.

And mass subscription cancelations won't do anything, because he's already got his bank to live off for many years. He'd just have to let go of the others and work on the progress on his own... Even slower than now.
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Many would do similar if they were in his position and he is too much of a perfectionist to delegate the work to others.
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Truth.
 
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