Inquisidor

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Hi guys
I been following this title from a long time ago
but i have been feeling a little bit disapointed for this eternal v21.0.0 WIP
Should i still download the nexts WIP updates of this title or you recommend me to wait for the actual V21.0.0??
Does it matter the content of this update??
 

Antihero6

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I only ignored 2 people here(you probably can guess who ‍)
And Every page, every fucking page i have the "show ignored content" button for me
I thought maybe it'll shows all the ignored contents in all pages but NO it'll show only the ignored One in that page
I even chekced random number pages to check and still can find them
I hope that DC pay them otherwise it's not healthy to just being here 24/7 please get a life
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Ps: i know you can read even with me ignoring you
 

sandyknees34

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.... I didn't call DC a leech. I was saying it's like being a leech to play these games from this site and not kick at least a couple bucks to the developers who make them.
I can't think of a single game on this site that deserves a penny for development. The patreon model time and time again has shown to be a disaster. How many times do we have to see a game milk the main story and give shitty update after shitty update on some side character? Or how many games get forced niche fetishes added by "community vote?"
 

ScrewMe

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I can't think of a single game on this site that deserves a penny for development. The patreon model time and time again has shown to be a disaster. How many times do we have to see a game milk the main story and give shitty update after shitty update on some side character? Or how many games get forced niche fetishes added by "community vote?"
First of all, you can simply support the developer for a month an update gets released. People spend hours of their lives creating stories and learning stuff(and I'm not talking about fast AI cashgrabs).
Second: each story has a bunch of character arcs. If I simply go through the main storyline without diving deep into side characters and their arcs, what are these characters for? They'll simply be dull decorations. Like...take Garrus from Mass Effect - he's the most beloved character from that franchise. Would the main story about Reaper invasion suffer if instead of Garrus there would've been Joe from Nebraska? No. But would I care about my squadmates if they all were generic dudes? Don't think so.

As far as niche fetishes added by community vote - it simply goes to "supply-demand". If the core of my patrons ask me about adding a NTR substory to character that seems to fit that role - why not?
Everything comes down to common sense)

At the end of the day, some devs suck. Some devs don't. And some devs quit(take Ancho, for example) simply because the funding for their game is low and it's simply better for them to get regular office job instead of working on a game that will never feed them, as much as they love it.

If nobody will support us - you'll just end up playing ten games at best. Just how it was 10 years ago, when your choice possibilities were much more narrow than nowadays.
 

C3realkill4r

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Today's update is free for everyone from the developer's website in less than 17 hours.

And it's already available for download from here... For free.

There was no reason to subscribe, except if you wanted to.
Trust me I'm a cheapass. I just paid $1. But it could have went to something different, though. you are right.
 
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sandyknees34

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First of all, you can simply support the developer for a month an update gets released. People spend hours of their lives creating stories and learning stuff(and I'm not talking about fast AI cashgrabs).
Second: each story has a bunch of character arcs. If I simply go through the main storyline without diving deep into side characters and their arcs, what are these characters for? They'll simply be dull decorations. Like...take Garrus from Mass Effect - he's the most beloved character from that franchise. Would the main story about Reaper invasion suffer if instead of Garrus there would've been Joe from Nebraska? No. But would I care about my squadmates if they all were generic dudes? Don't think so.

As far as niche fetishes added by community vote - it simply goes to "supply-demand". If the core of my patrons ask me about adding a NTR substory to character that seems to fit that role - why not?
Everything comes down to common sense)

At the end of the day, some devs suck. Some devs don't. And some devs quit(take Ancho, for example) simply because the funding for their game is low and it's simply better for them to get regular office job instead of working on a game that will never feed them, as much as they love it.

If nobody will support us - you'll just end up playing ten games at best. Just how it was 10 years ago, when your choice possibilities were much more narrow than nowadays.
Your mass effect examples misses the point. I don't mind side stories, they are fine. How many times tho do we get a game that has a decent story and they cuck the main plot because they fear funding will dry up if the finish the part of the game people actually care about and want to see the end. So they start working on side things for months on end racking in more money, not for a better story, but to drag out development for as long as possible.

Community votes are just more bloat and time sinks for development but hey thats the business model. Lets not kill the golden goose.

i hope all western patreon models go out of business, what ever will we do without AI cheating phone game #40. japanese make way better porn games and don't acutally milk production.
 

corellius

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I can't think of a single game on this site that deserves a penny for development. The patreon model time and time again has shown to be a disaster. How many times do we have to see a game milk the main story and give shitty update after shitty update on some side character? Or how many games get forced niche fetishes added by "community vote?"
to be fair man, not every dev is like this one. TK8000 (high school tutor, solvalley school) for example pauses patreon and does not charge anyone a penny if he didnt release any new content for his games that month. so not everyone is a milker undeserving of any money.

that being said, milking is still super common.but can you blame them? i mean if you could sit back and get 6 million (the bare minimum dark cookie has made assuming patrons only donate 1$ over that time since the start of the "tech update) for doing basically dick all 99.9% of the year, then work for maybe like 2 hours to pump out 3-5 minutes of content so patreon doesn't kick you off the site... wouldn't you? i mean for 6 million dollars i would do an awful lot, being able to do nothing and still get it is like a dream come true. why the fuck would anyone not? so yeah there are a lot of milkers, and dark cookie is the milker king. but its the same reason the normal video game industry is riddled with cash shops, micro transactions, and loot "packs" because the whales keep buying, and they buy so much it rakes in more money than just normally buying the game by like a factor of 10. it is what it is. its normal to do what makes the most money with the least amount of effort. you just mad you didn't think of it first.

Edit: i just wanna add and make clear, im not defending dark cookie, he's a scum scammer. im just spelling out the reality of the situation. and frankly its shocking how many people seem to still be defending this literal millionaire scammer.
 
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Vitklim

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I can't think of a single game on this site that deserves a penny for development. The patreon model time and time again has shown to be a disaster. How many times do we have to see a game milk the main story and give shitty update after shitty update on some side character? Or how many games get forced niche fetishes added by "community vote?"
Too harsh. I can think of several games in the category of deserving ongoing support.
Peasant's Quest. Superhuman. Ravager (this one is more subjective, they have slowed down a lot recently). Parasite Black.

Those are the main ones for me, games that regularly release high quality updates and with developer committed to making a good product. Maybe a few smaller titles too, like Vae Victis. There aren't many games like that, but they do exist.
 

YAT9T

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Isn't this motherfucker's game finished yet? The last time I played it was in 2019, my life was much better. These guys even developed cyberpunk faster. Son of a bitch, fraudulent producer.
 
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