Qianke

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What led all these disputes.
1. The author does not sell anything to anyone, all money is transferred to him voluntarily.
2. The author is not obliged to anyone or anything, since the money is given to him of his own accord.
3. The author does not receive the amounts that are received in one year, as he spends taxes ....
4. The author has people who help him to create a project, but having a team does not change the speed of the update, because the author does not owe anything to anyone and does not sell ...
5. The amount of money and the speed of release of the versions are not connected in any way, since the author still has a personal life and the people to whom he has to pay for releasing the project ...
6. A street artist is the same as a professional artist who does his own work, at his own pace, and not at the pace specified by the customer ...
7. Projects like DoA and companies like BioWare are the same as the porn game on the free Ren'Py engine ...
8. The author does not receive the money that was calculated, as he pays tax ... for the fact that he does not sell anything and does not produce anything ....
9. A stable team does not have an exact release date for versions because ... fucking, why?
10. There are always people who believe that you are wrong, even if you have been a patron for more than a year, because the author does not owe you anything, he does not sell anything, but at the same time pays taxes and shares the amount with the development team, by what miracle he pays tax if he cannot explain it, why does he pay tax if he does not sell anything and is not obliged to do anything? Apparently, people think that with the pocket money that parents give them, you also need to pay tax ....

It is even worse than double standards ...
Logic buried ...
DarkCookie is self-employed and pays taxes, although negligible amount.
 

401Grem

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Not surprising to see people still defending the greed

Pretty sad to see it though

If Summertime Saga was the best game I could understand it a bit more. But its not the best game and other devs release better products in a much shorter amount of time
Haha, freeloaders calling the productive greedy, ironic hypocrisy! Keep biting the hand that feeds, you, and soon you'll receive what you deserve, NOTHING!
 

steelsmiter

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I don't see you developing a game. Keep rushing to conclusions, bud. The rest of us can accept that a game that's not using models ripped from DAZ takes time to make.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but a game with models ripped from DAZ can take an obnoxiously long time to make as well. For example, A Wife and Mother.
 
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Jonboy80

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Not to put too fine a point on it, but a game with models ripped from DAZ can take an obnoxiously long time to make as well. For example, A Wife and Mother.
Yes, but AWAM aren't really pornographic, yet. It's telling a story and setting up stuff for the future. The last release I played, there wasn't even any sex yet, except for maybe one scene with the husband. It's been about four months since, though. Very similar to Dual Family, really, in that regard. It was writing a story and not rushing to throw porn into the mix. Also the same for Where The Heart Is.

I guess I don't get why people need to come to these slow paced erotic novels and complain about a slow pace whenre there are hundreds of VNs out there that are much faster paced that they can choose from. It reminds me of the people that would go into an RPGMaker game thread and complain that it's RPGM.
 
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mayfly

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Why is this game that was created in some guy's basement not being run like a seasoned professional games studio??
Why did this guy not have a clear defined plan for growing his business the second he started even thinking about sketching out his first nipple???
Why is this guy who is clearly ripping off his fans keep gaining monetary support month after month??
Why is it that nothing of what I say makes any difference in how this game is produced whatsoever???
 

FamousPotato

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Why is this game that was created in some guy's basement not being run like a seasoned professional games studio??
Why did this guy not have a clear defined plan for growing his business the second he started even thinking about sketching out his first nipple???
Why is this guy who is clearly ripping off his fans keep gaining monetary support month after month??
Why is it that nothing of what I say makes any difference in how this game is produced whatsoever???
There's sarcasm buried deep behind these legit questions.
 
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steelsmiter

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Whoopsie, let's remove that unrelated quote
Yes, but AWAM aren't really pornographic, yet. It's telling a story and setting up stuff for the future. The last release I played, there wasn't even any sex yet, except for maybe one scene with the husband. It's been about four months since, though. Very similar to Dual Family, really, in that regard. It was writing a story and not rushing to throw porn into the mix. Also the same for Where The Heart Is.

I guess I don't get why people need to come to these slow paced erotic novels and complain about a slow pace whenre there are hundreds of VNs out there that are much faster paced that they can choose from.
I'm neutral to it, and have done the thing you tell me to do. I was using AWAM to point out that games taking too long isn't a phenomenon unique to 2d games, although the two have their own set of concerns.

It reminds me of the people that would go into an RPGMaker game thread and complain that it's RPGM.
In the interest of fairness, RPGM is a bit clunkier if they go in hard on the interface and maps, it's harder to control, harder to type in names, and often much laggier for those of us with low end video cards. There have been RPGM games done right (which is to say, those that allow you to either type names, or not even bother with names, those that opt for a menu location change rather than a map based one. Can't really fix the difference in controls though), but they're the exception rather than the rule. Much the same for Ren'py games. Admittedly they both have the problem for us low end users that the creators often want to put in memory prohibitive animations that take too long.

In the SS for the year released more, and it corresponds to the genre of porn. While AWAM is a banal, lazy visual erotic novel, with beautiful graphics, but absolutely empty plot and the same characters, just a lot of the same text on the background of beautiful pictures.
I like AWAM, so my only real complaint is how slow and lazy it is. I'll eventually get to it, when someone noteworthy shoves a dick in someone else, and it's not a tease.

I get what you mean, but from my own experience, animating and positioning 3D models is easier than with hand-drawn art like in summertime saga
Oh yes. I am painfully aware each game (and each game type) has its own separate set of pitfalls. I can't really speak to the animation issue, but I do tend to prefer the ones that work better on my piece of shit computer. The images alone take quite a bit more man hours since there's not a lot of stock like there is with 3d though...
 

j4yj4m

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I wonder if we can get DC 100k $ per month, would he be any faster with his updates...
Not until he finds another artist who'll fit his liking. One has to keep in mind that there hasn't been a new development goal after 25k. That's the amount of money he actually asked for. So right now I'd say it doesn't really matter for the overall development speed wether he makes 30, 50 or 60k. Sure, he could hire more coders and a third animator but that woudn't really change much.
 

rockd

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Naw, the next update is probably long since finished, they are just artificially delaying it until the next patreon payment cycle, aka May 1st. Once he gets his 50 grand he will give his patreons the next update.
And someone has been caught...
 

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Naw, the next update is probably long since finished, they are just artificially delaying it until the next patreon payment cycle, aka May 1st. Once he gets his 50 grand he will give his patreons the next update.
And you know this how
 
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