Jonboy80

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What do you mean modified?

Most of those art changes just means removing the pointless lines he added to their faces and fixing their eyebrows.
And no, I don't think it's way over 10% because the images are still not properly compressed even now.
I don't know the details of the modifications exactly. According to Dogeek, the remaining coder, they're using a lot of in-house code that's pushing the limits of what Ren'py can do.

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We're not talking about the actual art, which did change. We're talking about the rigging of the art.

Before, the early content was redrawn frames for each animation. Now, each animation uses the same piece of base art (body and head) while limbs can be drawn and posed separately, greatly decreasing the size of the game over time as you don't have ten nearly identical frames of animation that are slight pose changes.

If you take a look at some of the character drawings that he works on, you'll notice they're all limbless. I tried to find some real quick but couldn't. Maybe someone else has an example on hand.
 
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zeppelin

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There is some weird belief within STS fan community, that Renpy needs to be highly customised and require a complex code to add simple minigames to it.
I wish I was joking right now.
They sound just as competent as DC himself.

I don't know the details of the modifications exactly. According to Dogeek, the remaining coder, they're using a lot of in-house code that's pushing the limits of what Ren'py can do.
I actually cannot name you 1 thing they're pushing the engine on. Maybe you can.

And again, the rigging is fine and all that, but he didn't need to actually redo the already existing art. He could have simply used every pose afterwards without modifying existing content.
 

Jonboy80

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They sound just as competent as DC himself.


I actually cannot name you 1 thing they're pushing the engine on. Maybe you can.

And again, the rigging is fine and all that, but he didn't need to actually redo the already existing art. He could have simply used every pose afterwards without modifying existing content.
I couldn't tell you any details because I'm not a member of the team, nor do I have extensive knowledge with Ren'py. I know a bit of C++ but next to nothing about Python. Some, but not enough to fluently do anything in it.
 

zeppelin

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I couldn't tell you any details because I'm not a member of the team, nor do I have extensive knowledge with Ren'py. I know a bit of C++ but next to nothing about Python. Some, but not enough to fluently do anything in it.
So then what are you talking about? You're going by a guy's words that literally cannot make a stable build in Ren`py, which is probably the easiest engine to use out there.
 

Jonboy80

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So then what are you talking about? You're going by a guy's words that literally cannot make a stable build in Ren`py, which is probably the easiest engine to use out there.
I'll take the word of a guy who has actually produced content (however slowly it may be) over a bunch of arm-chair experts who claim they know how things works. Until said experts can produce a game they've built that is of comparable quality, their claims on how easy it is are moot.
 

penusbatt

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I'm ok with bugs like odd behavior wrong art and so on but Ooh Wee that's a lot of game breaking bugs for me. Dude needs to play his own game or state a warning.
 

Jonboy80

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I'm ok with bugs like odd behavior wrong art and so on but Ooh Wee that's a lot of game breaking bugs for me. Dude needs to play his own game or state a warning.
Hotfix should be out today or tomorrow, I believe. That's why no public releases have been made. I think he's waiting on that to finish.
 

Kryptozoid

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I thought I was among the lucky ones with no bugs when I saved my game after 5-7 days ingame. Problem appeared only the next day when I tried to load my save and it didn't work. I had started a new game and applied the new Incest patch. So I don't know where the error comes from, just that it's annoying. Gonna wait for hotfix or maybe even 18.5. Hope there will be some TimeStamps or some other good game updates in the meantime.
 

RedGlow

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Who will have the hscenes in the 0.20 update?
Isn't it too early to think about 0.20 since they update the game every 4-5 months?
But as for your question, i guess the milf from pizza will get an update for sure, maybe some other characters or maybe even household can get a scene or two. I am not sure.. Time will tell i guess.
 

Glen_Quagmire

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I'm sure glad I don't get hyped up and don't play this game any more

The beginning of this game is the best part after that it's mostly a complete waste of time

The maker of this game should change His name to "Milkman" because that all He's been doing for over a year now
 
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