necromater

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What has Deryl done for us? The only thing I recall that was notable was figuring out our weakness for us and making a smoke bomb against police officers. The other stuff he's done was for other people.


Other than that we're either helping him at pool, helping him get laid (twice), helping him against a bully (punch to the face & Jared framing), fighting through his mindfuckery (thrice), saving him from Kenny, and helping him against his abusive father with the MC incident.


I don't know how I feel about Monster Deryl as being an excuse for trying to kill all his friends. There were instances where Deryl was fully aware of what he was doing or downright being himself.
-He pranked Cole with the monster in a mischievous manner, something Deryl would do to a cunt like Cole.
-He also had a heart to heart thinking about us with Charlie, so he clearly cared SOMEWHAT about us but then...stopped because he was "convinced" we'd come for him?
I will admit though he wasn't completely in his right might but there WERE times where he was:

Take after we bust into his abode, I believe some of you already mentioned it but this is pretty much a unanimously big "no no" moment for Deryl. AFTER he broke his mind control, you know, while we're burning alive over and over again? He CONTINUES to play around with us like we weren't just best friends for the last decade. He HAD to have known that we JUST got done fighting Jake AND his clone AND a bomb right after, yet he continued to keep pushing us to our limit out of a sense of rivalry? Get the fuck outta here, this isn't just bros being bros he almost KILLED us.

His Jake Clone and Del Clone were also excellent examples of his nasty ass personality. Del practically leaked all our info just to push us towards him, allowing us to be chased out of our homes and pretty much being sworn into servitude by H.E.R.O (though that was inevitable, it wasn't planned till much later) where we then had to risk our lives YET AGAIN against Valravn. Del was also just a nasty little shit. As for his Jake Clone remember ELLA HERSELF said NOT to go fuck with Jake and the MC but his cocky demeanor just HAD to make him go against his mind control (kinda) to be the very best by KILLING us both; meaning no matter the reason he went there to end his decade long friendship with a cold hard case of death.

I did like Deryl before because he was a bro, but after everything we did for him, with him, etc. it STILL wasn't enough to push past his own ego when it mattered most. Bring that along with the flashbacks revealing his true colors and recapturing his small instances of sociopathic tendencies I just don't feel inclined to like him anymore, let alone the fact that he still feels entitled to a reward from Xanthe, or Amber because we "broke the bro code".

But to each their own I suppose, I guess the point of this was to delve more into why I and maybe others didn't/don't like him. We Corrupt players have killed a lot more for a lot less...and I personally have ended a friendship over them just stealing from me, forgive me if I don't want to be around ome that almost killed or got me killed 3 or 4 times.
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Let's not start deryl shitpost war 2.
He is a ultra mega prick, a simp but also a homie.
 

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Take after we bust into his abode, I believe some of you already mentioned it but this is pretty much a unanimously big "no no" moment for Deryl. AFTER he broke his mind control, you know, while we're burning alive over and over again? He CONTINUES to play around with us like we weren't just best friends for the last decade. He HAD to have known that we JUST got done fighting Jake AND his clone AND a bomb right after, yet he continued to keep pushing us to our limit out of a sense of rivalry? Get the fuck outta here, this isn't just bros being bros he almost KILLED us.

His Jake Clone and Del Clone were also excellent examples of his nasty ass personality. Del practically leaked all our info just to push us towards him, allowing us to be chased out of our homes and pretty much being sworn into servitude by H.E.R.O (though that was inevitable, it wasn't planned till much later) where we then had to risk our lives YET AGAIN against Valravn. Del was also just a nasty little shit. As for his Jake Clone remember ELLA HERSELF said NOT to go fuck with Jake and the MC but his cocky demeanor just HAD to make him go against his mind control (kinda) to be the very best by KILLING us both; meaning no matter the reason he went there to end his decade long friendship with a cold hard case of death.
So I'll get back to the first part in a minute I wanna talk about the clones first:

The Jake clone is weak evidence against Deryl for the simple fact that:
1) Jake says the imprinting on him was interrupted due to Mia interrupting the process
2) Jake Clone Deryl states he ISN'T her slave like many others in her camp
3) He in his yandere vibes giving ass says he will DO whatever it takes to make sure her goals are achieved whether she wants his help or not
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I have full reason to believe that this Deryl has been thoroughly fucked over due to the incomplete process cause of Mia which caused him to view Ella as a savior

Remember Ella stabilized Mia on the beach which caused Deryl to see it as a miracle:
Do you truly think this Deryl is sound of mind? No due to Mia interrupting the process this clone seems to have inherited a lot of the 'mindfuck' that happened.

Now onto Del who says something VERY important that I believe you are overlooking:
He states that Proxies (like Clone Jake and Him) while in the beginning they are just an extension of Deryl when left to their own devices that becomes less true (becoming their own selves)
So to note he created 3 proxies

The Jake Clone
The one in Alice's basement
Del unlike all the other proxies WASN'T fully finished and he even states as such
Now calling Del a nasty little shit is correct because he is more like himself as a kid and presumably around the time he lost his mom.

Something you're also forgetting is that Del wasn't trying to push MC and Clone Deryl to him but rather the TRUE Deryl so they could all reform (or rather he takes them back into himself) which is how we got our Deryl back ultimately.

So while it sucks that we lost our privacy Del even states that this was the only way to get Clone Deryl to the True one.
Now this begs the question much like with the Jake clone...is Del in the right state of mind? The answer is no by the way...anyway briefly after the last screenshot the following is said between Del and Deryl
Del's mind is corrupted...he's halfbaked and most likely rushed. Not only that he doesn't have all the memories that Basement Deryl (or probably even Jake clone) had
To put this simply...using the clones who are clearly well for lack of a better word 'mindfucked' I don't think they are compelling enough to hate 'deryl'

Jake Clone Deryl clearly remembers the beach stuff more than the others (at least from what I can gather) which led to him having a more 'yandere' like mindset although with what Del said it seems like that may have been the 'true' Deryl but I can't confirm if that is the case but he did state that when Jake ordered him to 'leave' he felt the control Jake had weaken.

Basement Deryl is the nearest thing we have to true Deryl and acts like he usually does (except for some minor...hey should I merge back with myself comments) he is the most like bro Deryl and even you can't ignore that.

Del this clone is halfbaked and his mind is corrupted, he doesn't remember the things the other proxies knew (or may have knew) and he is most like his kid self who was a nasty person.

Back to the first part which Ima keep short since it's pretty much well known by now (I assume) what Deryl says to the MC:
After Deryl sets MC on fire he breaks the control Ella had on him and states as such here:

After that he tells us why he continued the fight:
Is it a bit dickish that he did that? Yeah sure but the MC knows how Deryl is and this is totally in line according to him to how he acts.

I'm just gonna say it again IF this was Michael you wouldn't of had such a hate boner for this scene of him doing this.

But at any rate there is one last thing that confirms my theory that Del is more like kid Deryl rather than the more...adult one? Deryl says:
So if what he says is right that means every single proxy (clone) just had bits and bobs of his core consciousness, with Del's appearance you might think he has whatever memories and how he acted as a child...right? At least thats what im goin off of.

At any rate, the clones are weak evidence to hate Deryl and going off of the fight he didn't have control up till the fire, you can say he's a dick for that sure (cause he is) but its not enough to warrant the "OMG I FUCKING HATE YOU BECKY" vibes.

Now that's enough evidence providing from me...my head hurts...need...to...post...Shadow....
 
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hmmmmmm...
him and his jake associated clone at the time, were mind-controlled into freakishly loving ella otherwise he would have no reason to attack the main character which is why when he broke the control, he no longer wanted to kill his best friend. his del clone was pretty messed, most likely prolonged contact with his monster that made him believe that he had no choice but to do it to become whole.

the only important i can really say here is that when deryl isn't freakishly mind-controlled, infected with monstrous blood lust, or being a clone with practically little to none free will (Original clone deryl was untainted and had room to grow)

Its safe to say that hes a certified bro.
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God that was a lot...I'm so much more used to well...my sweet lady and not typing out the declaration of independence for defending Deryl
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So I'll get back to the first part in a minute I wanna talk about the clones first:

The Jake clone is weak evidence against Deryl for the simple fact that:
1) Jake says the imprinting on him was interrupted due to Mia interrupting the process
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2) Jake Clone Deryl states he ISN'T her slave like many others in her camp
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3) He in his yandere vibes giving ass says he will DO whatever it takes to make sure her goals are achieved whether she wants his help or not
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I have full reason to believe that this Deryl has been thoroughly fucked over due to the incomplete process cause of Mia which caused him to view Ella as a savior

Remember Ella stabilized Mia on the beach which caused Deryl to see it as a miracle:
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Do you truly think this Deryl is sound of mind? No due to Mia interrupting the process this clone seems to have inherited a lot of the 'mindfuck' that happened.

Now onto Del who says something VERY important that I believe you are overlooking:
He states that Proxies (like Clone Jake and Him) while in the beginning they are just an extension of Deryl when left to their own devices that becomes less true (becoming their own selves)
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So to note he created 3 proxies

The Jake Clone
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The one in Alice's basement
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Del unlike all the other proxies WASN'T fully finished and he even states as such
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Now calling Del a nasty little shit is correct because he is more like himself as a kid and presumably around the time he lost his mom.

Something you're also forgetting is that Del wasn't trying to push MC and Clone Deryl to him but rather the TRUE Deryl so they could all reform (or rather he takes them back into himself) which is how we got our Deryl back ultimately.

So while it sucks that we lost our privacy Del even states that this was the only way to get Clone Deryl to the True one.
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Now this begs the question much like with the Jake clone...is Del in the right state of mind? The answer is no by the way...anyway briefly after the last screenshot the following is said between Del and Deryl
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Del's mind is corrupted...he's halfbaked and most likely rushed. Not only that he doesn't have all the memories that Basement Deryl (or probably even Jake clone) had
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To put this simply...using the clones who are clearly well for lack of a better word 'mindfucked' I don't think they are compelling enough to hate 'deryl'

Jake Clone Deryl clearly remembers the beach stuff more than the others (at least from what I can gather) which led to him having a more 'yandere' like mindset although with what Del said it seems like that may have been the 'true' Deryl but I can't confirm if that is the case but he did state that when Jake ordered him to 'leave' he felt the control Jake had weaken.

Basement Deryl is the nearest thing we have to true Deryl and acts like he usually does (except for some minor...hey should I merge back with myself comments) he is the most like bro Deryl and even you can't ignore that.

Del this clone is halfbaked and his mind is corrupted, he doesn't remember the things the other proxies knew (or may have knew) and he is most like his kid self who was a nasty person.

Back to the first part which Ima keep short since it's pretty much well known by now (I assume) what Deryl says to the MC:
After Deryl sets MC on fire he breaks the control Ella had on him and states as such here:
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After that he tells us why he continued the fight:
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Is it a bit dickish that he did that? Yeah sure but the MC knows how Deryl is and this is totally in line according to him to how he acts.

I'm just gonna say it again IF this was Michael you wouldn't of had such a hate boner for this scene of him doing this.

But at any rate there is one last thing that confirms my theory that Del is more like kid Deryl rather than the more...Deryl says:
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So if what he says is right that means every single proxy (clone) just had bits and bobs of his core consciousness, with Del's appearance you might think he has whatever memories and how he acted as a child...right? At least thats what im goin off of.

At any rate, the clones are weak evidence to hate Deryl and going off of the fight he didn't have control up till the fire, you can say he's a dick for that sure (cause he is) but its not enough to warrant the "OMG I FUCKING HATE YOU BECKY" vibes.

Now that's enough evidence providing from me...my head hurts...need...to...post...Shadow....
Thank you ItzSyther, love the effort you poured into this.
 
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So I'll get back to the first part in a minute I wanna talk about the clones first:

The Jake clone is weak evidence against Deryl for the simple fact that:
1) Jake says the imprinting on him was interrupted due to Mia interrupting the process
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2) Jake Clone Deryl states he ISN'T her slave like many others in her camp
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3) He in his yandere vibes giving ass says he will DO whatever it takes to make sure her goals are achieved whether she wants his help or not
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I have full reason to believe that this Deryl has been thoroughly fucked over due to the incomplete process cause of Mia which caused him to view Ella as a savior

Remember Ella stabilized Mia on the beach which caused Deryl to see it as a miracle:
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Do you truly think this Deryl is sound of mind? No due to Mia interrupting the process this clone seems to have inherited a lot of the 'mindfuck' that happened.

Now onto Del who says something VERY important that I believe you are overlooking:
He states that Proxies (like Clone Jake and Him) while in the beginning they are just an extension of Deryl when left to their own devices that becomes less true (becoming their own selves)
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So to note he created 3 proxies

The Jake Clone
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The one in Alice's basement
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Del unlike all the other proxies WASN'T fully finished and he even states as such
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Now calling Del a nasty little shit is correct because he is more like himself as a kid and presumably around the time he lost his mom.

Something you're also forgetting is that Del wasn't trying to push MC and Clone Deryl to him but rather the TRUE Deryl so they could all reform (or rather he takes them back into himself) which is how we got our Deryl back ultimately.

So while it sucks that we lost our privacy Del even states that this was the only way to get Clone Deryl to the True one.
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Now this begs the question much like with the Jake clone...is Del in the right state of mind? The answer is no by the way...anyway briefly after the last screenshot the following is said between Del and Deryl
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Del's mind is corrupted...he's halfbaked and most likely rushed. Not only that he doesn't have all the memories that Basement Deryl (or probably even Jake clone) had
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To put this simply...using the clones who are clearly well for lack of a better word 'mindfucked' I don't think they are compelling enough to hate 'deryl'

Jake Clone Deryl clearly remembers the beach stuff more than the others (at least from what I can gather) which led to him having a more 'yandere' like mindset although with what Del said it seems like that may have been the 'true' Deryl but I can't confirm if that is the case but he did state that when Jake ordered him to 'leave' he felt the control Jake had weaken.

Basement Deryl is the nearest thing we have to true Deryl and acts like he usually does (except for some minor...hey should I merge back with myself comments) he is the most like bro Deryl and even you can't ignore that.

Del this clone is halfbaked and his mind is corrupted, he doesn't remember the things the other proxies knew (or may have knew) and he is most like his kid self who was a nasty person.

Back to the first part which Ima keep short since it's pretty much well known by now (I assume) what Deryl says to the MC:
After Deryl sets MC on fire he breaks the control Ella had on him and states as such here:
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After that he tells us why he continued the fight:
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Is it a bit dickish that he did that? Yeah sure but the MC knows how Deryl is and this is totally in line according to him to how he acts.

I'm just gonna say it again IF this was Michael you wouldn't of had such a hate boner for this scene of him doing this.

But at any rate there is one last thing that confirms my theory that Del is more like kid Deryl rather than the more...Deryl says:
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So if what he says is right that means every single proxy (clone) just had bits and bobs of his core consciousness, with Del's appearance you might think he has whatever memories and how he acted as a child...right? At least thats what im goin off of.

At any rate, the clones are weak evidence to hate Deryl and going off of the fight he didn't have control up till the fire, you can say he's a dick for that sure (cause he is) but its not enough to warrant the "OMG I FUCKING HATE YOU BECKY" vibes.

Now that's enough evidence providing from me...my head hurts...need...to...post...Shadow....
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Thank you ItzSyther, love the effort you poured into this.
Papa Syther in his moments of clarity puts his all into disproving or at least painting a bigger picture of da situation.

I personally think the Deryl hatred is well silly, he nor his clones were in the right state of mind and the moment we do see Deryl in control and himself is after he burns MC and continues the fight.

This isn't like Jake who was thinking for himself and did all his actions by his own will the majority of what Deryl and his clones do are due to fucked up mind shit or outright mind rot/corruption in Del's case.
 

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Papa Syther in his moments of clarity puts his all into disproving or at least painting a bigger picture of da situation.

I personally think the Deryl hatred is well silly, he nor his clones were in the right state of mind and the moment we do see Deryl in control and himself is after he burns MC and continues the fight.

This isn't like Jake who was thinking for himself and did all his actions by his own will the majority of what Deryl and his clones do are due to fucked up mind shit or outright mind rot/corruption in Del's case.
Did you just refer to yourself in the third person? :ROFLMAO:
 

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No matter how you look it, Deryl moved on from his past and became MC's friend even if that 'past' self is now merged with his current...it was ALWAYS apart of him anyway.

Prior to the beach shit he didn't have an ego or rather, cunt outlook at least to me (did he brag that he was smart? Yeah cause he is and the game even proves that he is).

The MC almost dies every update. It was the MC's choice to go after Deryl despite the fact he just got done with Jake. Could Deryl escape? Sure but honestly I believe he would of remained there waiting for the MC (he most likely still would of broke control).

Deryl always had all those qualities btw he always did it was just that the player was introduced to him as a friend and it showed off more of his 'good' qualities and later on we got to see some more of the bad from the past. People CHANGE as they get older and mature...sure some remain the same asshole they were from school but the majority of humans ultimately change from who they were.

Deryl is no exception we know for a fact he changed and he can do so again.

Personally I have more of a grudge against Jake than Deryl who btw again in every instance up till the fire wasn't in the right state of mind.

Does it make it better, no. But it all does point to the fact that Deryl had no true control over it and clearly he likes the MC, they are buds.
 

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I have finally finish replaying the game to my satisfaction with a power of 363 and skill of 35 on my cheated playthrough . I can now release my thought on some of the character that was of important in this update and my feeling for our love interest. This might be a little late since the game has been updated like 2 weeks ago but whatever, First one on the list is:

Nathan Foxglove: The father of liz and amber and the husband of Kelly (That Witch:mad:). When I first saw him on the the preview I thought he was gonna be an enemy to us of some kind, either from sin or a rogue superhuman. Well I was half right that he was with sin I really didn't think that he was liz and amber father and to be honest i should have seen that coming. From what I saw of the man is that he a family man through and through as it seem like he would do anything to keep in daughters safe and I can respect that as well as learning that apparently he was some sort of squad leader in the military with our dear papa and freaking Jeff the detective. That left me kinda shock just from the fact that our dad is some ex soldier. so far I like him

Mc's Mom: So when I saw the mc's mom I can't be the only that just instantly fmc like for real. She is just quite literally in the look department the fmc and the way she act is just how do I said this dumb nah that not right air headed. I mean I should Have expected since our dear mc even call her dumb. Which make me love her even more. I have a headcanon that if she was alive and saw learn the mc was a superhuman she would 1000% just be happy for her son that just for the fact that she think that it cool, and if she ever discover that the mc can change his gender and that his female form look exactly like she would probably gus about him being a mama boy and ask if he want to have sex in his female form. I like her and I want an incest scene with her and the mc in the future I wouldn't even care if it was some sort of memories altering power training I want one.

Eljiah Gunvald: To be honest with one I barely remember him. Mind you that doesn't mean I hate his gut. I Just don't have much of an opinion on him. I know his whole sthick is being a hero and that he want HERO themself to see it and start acting on it, but really I just not that interested in him.

Langdon (Jared's Dad): Prior to this update I thought very little of him I honestly thought his whole "bring Sin to the top surpass Hero" was kinda idiotic and suicidal, because he neither possessed the mean or power to do so. However in this update it has shown that he is now a superhuman possibly a level 2 and has now got the tools and people to help him expand even father beyond; if left uncheck he could honestly be a big player in the future. Big enough that it might led a death scene to one of our closeted friends that being amber and liz. But I don't like him just for the fact that he is Jared's dad.

Nyx: In another post of mine I said that she radiated off mommy/big sis vibe and still stand by that. However with this update it seem like to me is that she is also has that mystic vibe to her as well like she know more than she let on, like the fact she brought us along to see our friend evolve and ask us if we can "see it" strange, or that she just kinda remind me of ella in some weird way like a more friendlier version of her. Well whatever her deal is im interested.

Nico: You know I know that nico is a stuck up bitch but, during the a class mission with us fighting against that asura monster thing. Where she did the bare minimum to help and but didn't let us dad I guess she alright for now.

Amber: Well this update we got to shed into some of amber thought on the whole superhuman subject, like the fact she wouldn't really like to become one because of all the fight and death. While also learning a little more about the relationship with her and deryl where she didn't told her parent why they broke up and that she was very close to never speaking to deryl again if it wasn't the mc. On another note amber is a lot freakier than I thought she was what with her agreeing us to fuck her alien style with her mom next to her Twice.

and finally Liz: We also learn about her thought of the whole superhuman subject in that maybe she and amber should become one so that they wouldn't be a burden on our mc. Hell in this update we see her even asking Michael for help on learing different martial art. But really the one scene that got to me in this update and is honestly moving on to be one of my favorite scene, is the flashback to when the Mc confess to her during their high-school graduation party. It was amazing, It had her somber look when the mc handed her a flower to the music playing in the background to which I dont know what that song is but it work really well in that scene hope it get reuse again for other touching scene. but yeah in that scene we learn that she didn't reject him because of a shallow reason, but because she herself didn't think that she was capable to be in a relationship. She didn't want to hurt the mc. That one single scene had pull liz into one of my favorite love interest in game.

I'll stop it there since im running on fume just reading this, but those are my thoughts on some of the character that I thoughts were important this update. There are probably more like dancia and Bernhardt or even dexter just for that one small scene where all the captain were discussing langdon threat and dexter was acting all suspicious like when they all learn he became a superhuman and escaped. But im not gonna go any further, that all from me now for me rest
 
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I found the traitor btw
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What wrong with dogclapping? Dogclapping is love, Dogclapping is life.

Be sure to shame the traitor known as Nevart properly to please Mommy 4th...we cannot allow such...actions to harm her and of course her ever loyal children of the F95 thread.
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Anywho this betrayal was leaked to you by the Dogstapo the intelligence gathering & counter intelligence agency of the Dogclapper cult.
 
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